In search of a benchtop wood planer

[Mark Mrsa]

I recently purchased a Grizzly G0940 13" benchtop planer with a helical cutting head. This has turned out to be a frustrating experience. I am in the process of returning my third planer for a full refund. All the planers were damaged in shipment from Grizzly's Missouri warehouse to my home in State College, Pa. via UPS. Each had exterior damage, varying from cracked/dented cast aluminum base plates, bent side panel, bent clips on the underside of the top lid of the planer, and infeed/outfeed rollers and cutting heads that were knocked out of alignment. Grizzly sent replacement planers and would have sent me a 4th, but I decided to ask for a refund. Grizzly's tech staff was patient and helpful, but the shipping departmentwould not provide adequate shipping cartions/material to absorb the abuse of shipping, refusing to double box a planer or to use a more sturdy shipping container.
I am know beginning my search of another benchtop planer. My primary reason for the Grizzly purchase was the integrated helical cutting head. The price point was also reasonable considering the $500-$800 cost of fitting a helical cutting head into a planer with traditional cutting blades, such as the DeWalt models.

These are my questions:
*In what condition should I expect a planer to be in out of the box? The Grizzly model cost $895.00.
*Out of the box, how much mechanical adjustment should be anticipated regarding the alignment of the rollers and cutting head?
*Is any one aware of another brand with a true helical cutting head besides Oliver (sp) or Baily (sp)? Jet and Rikon has model with spheral cutting heads. I have read that the helical cutting head provides a smooth cut and is easier to maintain/replace cutting insert.

In reading customer reviews, there are numerous reports of defects/damage in shipment or motor problems (the new Jet model).
My garage workshop doesn't have the space for a floor model besides the cost of a floor model being 2-3x the cost of a benchtop model. I know there is the probable advantage of a better made product with more accurate factory set alignment, but I cann't justify the $2000-$3000 cost!
I'm beginning the lean toward the new Rikon model with the spheral cutting head.
I'm also still considering requesting a 4th planer from Grizzly since I haven't received a return shipping label yet. The closest store to make a direct purchase is a Woodcraft Store in Harrisburg, Pa.. Woodcraft also can ship floor standing models in a shorter length semi that can turn around in a cul-de-sac where I live. I can purchase a Shop Fox to pick up from Home Depot that is a 13" model with a spheral cutting head.

Does anyone have any advice or guidance in response to this posting regarding expectation for mechanical adjustments out of the box and tool company branch that has integrated helical cutting heads?
Your comment will be greatly appreciated.
Mark Mrsa

[Jerry Wright]

Depending on resolution with Grizzly, if you move on Dewalt DW735 , from a big box can't be beat for a hobby shop. It is the greatest labor saving device I own....sanding with 150 grit after planing. It is not a spiral head machine, but have never shared the fascination all share for spiral heads and carbide cutters. If you are planing hundreds of board feet at a time, maybe. But for my use, it can't be beat. IMHO.

[Scott Brader]

I second Jerry's vote for the DW735. I have had mine for a number of years and love it. The knives are easy to flip and change and it does a very nice job. My only complaint is how loud it is. It's kind of annoying (even with hearing protection on) when the planer and DC are both running in my basement shop.

Scott

[Kyle Iwamoto]

I second Jerry's vote for the DW735. I have had mine for a number of years and love it. The knives are easy to flip and change and it does a very nice job. My only complaint is how loud it is. It's kind of annoying (even with hearing protection on) when the planer and DC are both running in my basement shop.

Scott

+1. I mean +another.
Granted this one is loud. BUT all "lunchbox" planers are loud. This one especially so. I have one, and I really like it. It's got 3 blades instead of 2, so it has to be at least 50% louder.
A friend of mine has one too, and doesn't have a dust collector. He runs a hose to the yard and uses it for a mulch spreader.:eek:

[Ken Fitzgerald]

Mark, I have one of the original Ridgid 13" planers. It works well. Cutech now sells what appears to be the same planer with a spiral cutterhead. It's model number is Cutech 40200H. Another Creeker has the same planer as I and upgraded his with a Cutech 13" spiral cutterhead and rollers. He reported it was much quieter and produced a smoother finish after the upgrade. Cutech makes this in a one and two speed models.

[Robert Hayward]

I will chime in also. Another vote for the DW735. It simply cannot be beat for a hobby grade planer. The knives are easy and quick to change.

My jointer is helical and I love it, but I cannot imagine going to straight knives and having to align them after a sharpening. The 735 knives do not need aligning, just drop them in and tighten up. The 735 also gives as good or better finish cut than the helical jointer.

[Derek Meyer]

I bought a Cuetech (now Wahuda) planer and jointer a couple of years ago. Both have heilical heads, and both were shipped directly to me. There was no damage to either unit and no damage to the boxes, which were heavy cardboard with lots of foam surrounding the tools. I doubt that the planer is as good as the Dewalt, but both tools cost me less than $700 shipped. They will get me by until I have the space and money for something like a Hammer or Felder combo unit.

[Jim Becker]

The expectation for a new in box machine that arrives on your doorstep should be exactly that..."new in box" and pretty much pristine. There should be no damage, even if a box has a ding. If it arrives any other way...it's a problem and would not be acceptable to me. And that's for any vendor.

[Bob Betker]

Another vote for the DeWalt DW735, I've had one for years and love it. You can also get high quality HSS and carbide blades for it that provide an extremely smooth finish and last longer than the OEM blades.

[William Hodge]

I use a DeWalt 735 with straight knives as a finish planer. I have been taking about 1/32" off after running the wood through a 20" planer. The finish is great. Dust collection is good, too. It's the only planer I have seen with built in dust collection. It has a little blower inside that shoots the dust into my dust collection system.

The time spent running the wood through that planer on slow translates directly into much less sanding. The DeWalt never sees rough lumber, sanded wood, or wood that has been on the floor.

As far as quantity, I run the planer for hours on end when I am milling wood.

[Justin Rapp]

I have a DW735 also, and I upgraded from a DW734. And while it is loud as heck, it's a great machine. But another machine to look at is the Laguna PX12. If it was out when I got my 735 I might have gone for it. I saw one a few weeks ago at the woodcraft store in Downington, PA. I know it's about a 3 hour drive each way, but might be worth just going if you want to put your hands on it before buying. Call first of course to make sure it's still there.

[Edward Weber]

The expectation for a new in box machine that arrives on your doorstep should be exactly that..."new in box" and pretty much pristine. There should be no damage, even if a box has a ding. If it arrives any other way...it's a problem and would not be acceptable to me. And that's for any vendor.


I agree, you pay for a new machine that's what you should get.
I still have my Delta 22-580, out of the box it just worked, period. The only adjustment other than changing blades is I adjusted the infeed and outfeed tables when I first set it up.

[Wojciech Tryc]

Another vote for Dewalt 735. My tiny workshop is only 9x12, so noise generated by this machine is accelerated, but the results are amazing

[Scott Winners]

I found a dewalt 734 on local craigslist while saving up for a 735. Completely satisfied. There are helical heads out there for the 735, but I don’t need one.

[Jim Dwight]

I agree with your packing comments, Grizzly should do better, but I also think lunchbox planners have gotten pretty heavy for one UPS driver to manage and that is the source of the damage - when combined with relatively poor packaging. Home delivery may require better packaging.

I have had good luck with ordering tools for delivery to my Home Depot where I pick them up. It is not a real fast process but I think this sort of shipping has a better chance of delivering a product in good shape.

If I was to replace my old Ryobi AP-10, I would probably buy a Wen with a spiral cutter head. Unless Home Depot has it available, I would also have the risky shipment process to deal with. Amazon would be my next choice, they seem to understand home delivery very well. I think the Wen is the least expensive option and I've had good luck with other tools from them. It seems to have an odd size square cutter, however, that is only available in steel (no carbide option). Since you have four surfaces to go through that doesn't seem prohibitive for my occasional use.

[David Clark!]

I am very new at this. I purchased a Dewalt 735 and couldn't be more happy with performance. Disclaimer unlike a lot who have respond I have no other experience to compare to.

[Michael Drew]

Mark, I have one of the original Ridgid 13" planers. It works well. Cutech now sells what appears to be the same planer with a spiral cutterhead. It's model number is Cutech 40200H. Another Creeker has the same planer as I and upgraded his with a Cutech 13" spiral cutterhead and rollers. He reported it was much quieter and produced a smoother finish after the upgrade. Cutech makes this in a one and two speed models.

That was me.

The 'upgrade' to the Cutech cutterhead was well worth it. I used the piss out of the machine last week and was pretty amazed at how well it performed. Way better than the straight knives ever did. A LOT more quiet as well. I do not find myself needed to wear hearing protection now (although I still do).

Based on my experience, I have no problem recommending the Cutech planer with spiral cutterhead. Just keep in mind that it's not the traditional 'spiral'. It has fewer cutters. The upside to fewer cutters is less load on the motor, and the spiral cutterheads do require more load, so I think the Cutech design works well for these machines.

[james manutes]

A year back I bought a Grizzly 889Z w/ a spiral head . I think it's good for a benchtop planer . They have discontinued it already , but I'm happy with it . It came with a box in a box, no damage at all . Each box had plastic handles on the ends , I still got them .

[Doug Colombo]

I am yet another happy Dewalt 735 owner ! Great performance and although it is a bit load, all planners of that style are load so it is no worse that I expected when I purchased it..

[Stephen Rosenthal]

Okay, I’ll join the chorus singing the praises of the Dewalt 735. Purchased it 2 years ago from Home Depot on one of their deals of the day and had it shipped to store for free. Couldn’t be happier. Frankly I don’t understand the need to convert to a spiral cutting head. I get a great surface with the OEM blades. Once in a while a few passes with a hand plane resolves any imperfections. I won’t spend the money or time on a spiral head, but when I need new blades I might opt for Infinity’s HSS replacements.

[Ray Newman]

Over the years, the DeWalt 735 has consistently come out in the top 2 planers in the magazine tool reviews. The DeWalt 734 also receives good reviews, but from what I read and hear the DeWalt 735 is the only way to go.

[Mike Kees]

I own a Dewalt 734, no experience with a 735. I can say the 734 is a way better machine than the original Delta portable planer I started with. Three knife head, locking lever, indexed knives on pins in the cutter head and adjustable fold down in and outfeed tables. I use mine as a jobsite tool as a carpenter. Not sure what the price difference is, but the 734 is a great portable planer that seems to live under the shadow of the 735.

[Aaron Woods]

Only part I can address having no experience with "lunchbox planers"

*Is any one aware of another brand with a true helical cutting head besides Oliver (sp) or Baily (sp)? Jet and Rikon has model with spheral cutting heads. I have read that the helical cutting head provides a smooth cut and is easier to maintain/replace cutting insert.

You can buy an aftermarket spiral or helical cutter head for practically any machine it seems. Somebody makes one even for most of the vintage machines, even some of the less common ones. They are not cheap, but it doesn't look like you get much of a deal buying a machine that comes with one installed (or at least one that comes with a good one anyway).

Shelix is one brand of aftermarket cutter head but there are others.

[Steven Mehl]

the latest issue of wood magazine (#279) did a test of planers with both straight knives and inserts. The dewalt came out as the top tool with the straight knives with the smoothest cut. Inserts left ridges that required more sanding.

[Kevin Jenness]

Those little screamers (I have used Ryobi, Makita, Delta and DeWalt) do an excellent job with straight hss knives. One good reason to go with a helical head is if you work with a lot of softwood. The smaller chips will tend to clog less.

[Dave Sabo]

RIKON

https://www.rikontools.com/product/model-25-135-13-portable-planer


should be able to get one (semi) locally.

[Patrick Curry]

I will chime in also. Another vote for the DW735. It simply cannot be beat for a hobby grade planer. The knives are easy and quick to change.

My jointer is helical and I love it, but I cannot imagine going to straight knives and having to align them after a sharpening. The 735 knives do not need aligning, just drop them in and tighten up. The 735 also gives as good or better finish cut than the helical jointer.

Same here. I have helical cutter heads on my jointer. Works great but I have no interest in going away from blades on my Dewalt planer. The finish is slightly better; blade replacement is fast and easy; high quality HSS blades are relatively affordable for how long they last me.
I will add that the OEM blades that came w my Dewalt were a disappointment.