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Roger Feeley
10-12-2021, 5:38 PM
I have a half spool of 60/40 solder that predates the lead ban. I don’t use very much which is obvious since I bought the spool in the ‘70s.

What should I do with it?

John K Jordan
10-12-2021, 6:50 PM
I have a half spool of 60/40 solder that predates the lead ban. I don’t use very much which is obvious since I bought the spool in the ‘70s.

What should I do with it?

I keep all solder, especially rosin-core for electronics. It doesn't take up much space. I have a variety of sizes and a 3-lifetime supply. But if I rarely soldered things I'd probably give it away. Of course, as soon as you get rid if it you'll probably need it and have to go buy some.

JKJ

Lamar Keeney
10-12-2021, 7:32 PM
I rarely do much soldering myself but just used some 60/40 yesterday that I've had at least 25 years. worked fine. Always good to have stuff to fix things with.

Jim Koepke
10-12-2021, 8:39 PM
Before you toss it Google solder and see how much it costs.

jtk

Myk Rian
10-12-2021, 9:48 PM
Use it. Present day 60/40 is a disappointment.

Mike Henderson
10-12-2021, 9:51 PM
Obviously it will work in electronic applications. But when you go to dispose of the product you used it on, it will no longer be lead free and may require special handling (if you disclose the lead).

Mike

Jim Koepke
10-13-2021, 1:46 AM
Use it. Present day 60/40 is a disappointment.

Even the old 60/40 solder was a disappointment for many of us doing production work. My preference is eutectic solder or a 63/37 alloy.


63/37 solder is made of 63% tin and 37% lead. It has a melting point of 183°C, slightly lower than the more common 60/40 blend. The primary advantage of this solder is not the lower melting point, but its eutectic property. Non-eutectic solders, like the 60/40 solder, have a semi-solid state between solid and liquid. If a joint is moved during this stage, it can result in what is called a cold solder joint. Eutectic solders, like the 63/37, do not have this semi-solid state and are thus considered easier to work with as it produces fewer bad joints. However, these solders typically cost more than their non-eutectic counterparts.

From > https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Practical_Electronics/Soldering

There is probably 3 or 4 pounds of it in my shop.

Candy has a pound or two of a much heavier gauge for stained glass work.

jtk

George Yetka
10-13-2021, 6:20 AM
Keep it you can use it on anything that isnt drinking water. Compressed air lines in the garage/heating hot water/drainage/etc.

The lead ban isnt much of a problem now but when it first hit we were getting killed on material costs. My company does a lot of Heating water/Chilled water. And at the transition point we bid jobs using pricing at the time then it switched by the time we started jobs to lead free prices jumped.

John K Jordan
10-13-2021, 11:42 AM
Keep it you can use it on anything that isnt drinking water. Compressed air lines in the garage/heating hot water/drainage/etc.



If it's rosin core solder made for electronics will it be useful for plumbing? I've never anything but acid-based flux for that.

As for success in soldering electronics with the old 60/40 tin/lead much depends on good technique but having good temperature regulated soldering stations helps tremendously. When building computers in the 70's I got a lot of experience. One 8K static memory board for a SWTPC computer (component cost: $250) had 1434 solder connections. Never had a soldering failure building dozens of boards, power supplies, monitors, cables, etc. I use good Weller soldering equipment, made for industry.

These days I mostly solder to repair electronics and cables/connectors around the house and farm. I still use only the old 60/40 solder in sizes from 0.40 mm to 2.5mm.

JKJ

Dan Friedrichs
10-13-2021, 1:56 PM
Lead solder is not banned, nor expensive...?

While most new products are moving towards lead-free, leaded solder is still very readily available and commonly used.

George Yetka
10-13-2021, 4:44 PM
If it's rosin core solder made for electronics will it be useful for plumbing? I've never anything but acid-based flux for that.

As for success in soldering electronics with the old 60/40 tin/lead much depends on good technique but having good temperature regulated soldering stations helps tremendously. When building computers in the 70's I got a lot of experience. One 8K static memory board for a SWTPC computer (component cost: $250) had 1434 solder connections. Never had a soldering failure building dozens of boards, power supplies, monitors, cables, etc. I use good Weller soldering equipment, made for industry.

These days I mostly solder to repair electronics and cables/connectors around the house and farm. I still use only the old 60/40 solder in sizes from 0.40 mm to 2.5mm.

JKJ

John I couldnt tell you, I only use the acid based stuff as well. The newer water based fluxes stink. You have to be more precise with the heat because the water based flux cooks out and the solder wont draw. With the utility flux a light coating and it takes a while to cook out.

John K Jordan
10-13-2021, 7:29 PM
John I couldnt tell you, I only use the acid based stuff as well. The newer water based fluxes stink. You have to be more precise with the heat because the water based flux cooks out and the solder wont draw. With the utility flux a light coating and it takes a while to cook out.

For copper pipes I like the grey solder "paste" flux loaded powdered solder.

mike stenson
10-13-2021, 8:35 PM
Lead solder is not banned, nor expensive...?

While most new products are moving towards lead-free, leaded solder is still very readily available and commonly used.
I prefer to use pb based if it's something that moves.. Like automobiles.

Bill Dufour
10-14-2021, 7:20 PM
I used some to solder some tin flashing around a skylight.
Bill D

Stan Calow
10-14-2021, 7:59 PM
The use of it on potable water plumbing is what is banned.

Steve Rozmiarek
10-16-2021, 11:11 AM
I used some of my old acid core stash a few weeks ago, I have the acid holes in my shirt to prove it...