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Bernie Kopfer
09-13-2021, 12:58 PM
Tailstock quill seemed to be getting harder to turn recently and yesterday during a deep 3” forestner bit cut it nearly froze up. Took two hands to get it to return. Took the quill out and could not find any gunk or burrs. Cleaned and lubed but little difference in turning difficulty. Placed the quill on the table saw to check for it being “ bent”. Could see a couple of thousands of light in one spot but otherwise seemed to roll smoothly. Read up on other people’s similar experiences but seems perhaps I have somehow bent the quill enough to cause it to bind like this. Or could the lead screw get bunged up and be causing this problem? Any suggestions before I shell out $$ for a replacement

Bernie Kopfer
09-13-2021, 6:20 PM
So I took things apart further. Removed the lead screw and then attempted to slide the quill in and out. No go! how does one manage to bend a quarter thick wall steel cylinder!? 2HP rotating off perfect center with a large Forestner bit appears to be able to do so. Lesson learned per $100 bill.

Sam Force
09-13-2021, 8:05 PM
Before buying a new quill I would take it to a machine shop to check it out first. A friend had trouble with his 3520 quill, looking on his table saw to us it looked bent. A machine shop told him it wasn't bent but they found a small burr we didn't see and fixed it for him for no charge

Richard Coers
09-13-2021, 9:00 PM
Is the keyway that prevents the quill from spinning have any deformation on it? https://sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?106807-3520B-Tailstock-Quill-Locking-Up

Mike Peace
09-13-2021, 10:35 PM
I covered this in this video https://youtu.be/xfCuTB32RQ8

Bernie Kopfer
09-15-2021, 11:13 AM
I cleaned up everything and removed the guide screw before attempting to insert the quill. Goes in a couple of inches and binds quite tightly just like when I was using it. Talked to the powermatic tech and he said that they do get bent. Lesson learned.

John K Jordan
09-15-2021, 11:30 AM
I cleaned up everything and removed the guide screw before attempting to insert the quill. Goes in a couple of inches and binds quite tightly just like when I was using it. Talked to the powermatic tech and he said that they do get bent. Lesson learned.

I didn't read this entire thread - did you get the quill completely out of the tailstock? I recently refurbished one for someone. I rolled it on a surface plate and with a light behind it to locate the high spot then used files or coarse diamond plate (can't remember) to take that side down a few thousandths, not too much. The block sanded with 400 grit wet&dry paper to smooth. Mounted it in a lathe and spun it while sanding with a strip of fine paper to smooth and polish. Works flawlessly now. The scale and number on the side are mostly gone but not a big loss, considering.

JKJ

Brice Rogers
09-16-2021, 2:28 AM
Bernie, Do as John suggests and roll it on a surface plate (or on a granite tile - - not as good but better than nothing). Alternatively roll it on your lathe ways and see if it is really bent or if there is just a burr. If it is bent (which I would find surprising unless you have been REALLY overtightening), you can figure out the high spot and try to bend it back. Ideally, use a hydraulic press (or a friend's). Or perhaps use a wide vise with wood to keep it from being marked. Or strike it with a hammer (and wooden cushions). Try to move it just a bit at a time. Don't go "Rambo" on it. While you're at it, perhaps roll the exterior threaded screw on the flat surface to confirm that there is no secondary issue with the screw portion.

Just a thought...

If It doesn't work now, what do you have to lose?

Bernie Kopfer
09-16-2021, 5:31 PM
Thanks for the suggestions but I ordered a new one. I perhaps too hastily presumed it was non restorable. Two reasons , it really bound up tight half way in and there was no bur or rough area, second I had the drill chuck MT slip a couple of times roughing the quill slightly. And since I’m getting a new one I cut the old one and now it makes a easily attached point guide for my older bandsaw. Will do another thread sometime soon about drilling large deep holes on the lathe with forestner bits.

Tim Elett
09-16-2021, 7:04 PM
I assume you're quill was out three inches plus the shake on the bit?

John K Jordan
09-16-2021, 7:58 PM
...I had the drill chuck MT slip a couple of times roughing the quill slightly. And since I’m getting a new one I cut the old one and now it makes a easily attached point guide for my older bandsaw. Will do another thread sometime soon about drilling large deep holes on the lathe with forestner bits.

A 2MT reamer can help clean up the tapered socket. I bought this one:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07933VYD7

I've also used a round file and done it by hand. Best to clean the socket regularly, too.

JKJ

Bernie Kopfer
09-16-2021, 10:21 PM
I assume you're quill was out three inches plus the shake on the bit?

How did you know?

Tim Elett
09-17-2021, 5:50 PM
Hopefully the new part will fix the lathe,something to watch out for, I wonder how far out is to far,depends on the size of the shaft I guess.