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Brian Runau
05-26-2021, 7:50 AM
I want to build and mount this, but p[refer not to use a french cleat. Looking for suggestion on how to wall mount so you won't see the fasteners. Thanks for any help.
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Hunter Benson
05-26-2021, 9:08 AM
Use a keyhole slot or keyhole hardware.

Jamie Buxton
05-26-2021, 9:58 AM
What is it -- a coat rack? I ask because if it is a coat rack, somebody will be yanking pretty hard on those vertical parts. That, in turn, means that you must tie it quit strongly to the wall. But if it has some other function, perhaps the mounting scheme can be lighter weight.

Brian Runau
05-26-2021, 10:14 AM
What is it -- a coat rack? I ask because if it is a coat rack, somebody will be yanking pretty hard on those vertical parts. That, in turn, means that you must tie it quit strongly to the wall. But if it has some other function, perhaps the mounting scheme can be lighter weight.

Goes in the laundry room, can double as a drying rack and coat rack. thanks. brian

Brian Runau
05-26-2021, 10:16 AM
Use a keyhole slot or keyhole hardware.

So put this on the back of the rack and a fastener in the wall, correct?

Thanks Brian

https://www.rockler.com/keyhole-fittings-select-either-single-or-double?country=US&sid=V91040&promo=shopping&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=&utm_content=&utm_campaign=PL&gclid=CjwKCAjw47eFBhA9EiwAy8kzNK71TcrgZiiHEVq-4TPZVffTwEI7MhJsQ7cICa23fZtJkz8r26f_dBoC8IgQAvD_Bw E

Thomas McCurnin
05-26-2021, 11:37 AM
Keyhole fastener, but ....

Make a template out of thin plywood or cardboard to drill the holes for the screws and plastic inserts that go into the drywall.

Ken Fitzgerald
05-26-2021, 12:00 PM
You could use screws in countersunk holes and plug the holes with matching plugs insuring that the holes align with the studs in the wall.

Roger Feeley
05-26-2021, 12:44 PM
Are the individual hooks glued on? When I do coat racks, I try to work out the spacing so the hooks cover the mounting screws.

Hunter Benson
05-26-2021, 12:56 PM
Keyhole fastener, but ....

Make a template out of thin plywood or cardboard to drill the holes for the screws and plastic inserts that go into the drywall.

I have also had success using dowel pins in the keyhole slots to get the mounting locations right.

Doug Garson
05-26-2021, 1:06 PM
Are the individual hooks glued on? When I do coat racks, I try to work out the spacing so the hooks cover the mounting screws.
I was going to suggest that but how do you attach the hooks without visible fasteners?

Jamie Buxton
05-26-2021, 1:24 PM
If it is a coat rack, I’d say that the keyhole approach is too flimsy and sloppy. I’d bite the bullet, and drive screws through the front into studs. That’d be strong enough. Counterbore the holes, and drive domed plugs into them after you screw the rack to the wall. Use plugs of the same species as the test of the rack.

Rich Engelhardt
05-26-2021, 1:47 PM
I was going to suggest that but how do you attach the hooks without visible fasteners?I'd makes the hooks so they attach with dovetails & drive a screw into the dovetail. You'd probably only catch one stud - but - hollow wall anchors in the dovetail slot of each hanger should be plenty enough to hold it.
For a little extra hold, you could always use some 90# rated double faced tape.

Rob Luter
05-26-2021, 2:03 PM
I want to build and mount this, but p[refer not to use a french cleat. Looking for suggestion on how to wall mount so you won't see the fasteners. Thanks for any help.
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I made a coat rack for my kiddo and the wall mounting screws were hidden behind two of the the coat hooks. The hook were re-installed after the rack was fixed to the wall. If you want everything to be blind I'd attach two hooks to the backer (or however many you want to hide screws behind) with a form of French cleat and lock them in pace with a screws at the bottom. Very crude sketch below. All the towel hooks and TP dispensers in my bathroom attach this way.

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Charles P. Wright
05-26-2021, 4:12 PM
You could use aluminum french cleats that are mortised into the back, no one would ever see them.

https://www.amazon.com/Orange-Aluminum-French-Cleat-Panels/dp/B07N99JSMR/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=orange+aluminum+z+channel&qid=1622059745&sr=8-4

Doug Garson
05-26-2021, 5:01 PM
I'd makes the hooks so they attach with dovetails & drive a screw into the dovetail. You'd probably only catch one stud - but - hollow wall anchors in the dovetail slot of each hanger should be plenty enough to hold it.
For a little extra hold, you could always use some 90# rated double faced tape.
Like the dovetail idea, not sure I can picture how you would nail it after mounting on the wall but you could just glue it in. However one disadvantage is how do you later remove the coat hanger without destroying it if you need to relocate it or just temporarily remove it to paint or wallpaper the wall? I would use the screw with a contrasting plug as part of the design. That would be the most secure and if the plug is friction fit it can be pried out out if needed.

Brian Runau
05-26-2021, 5:06 PM
You could use aluminum french cleats that are mortised into the back, no one would ever see them.

https://www.amazon.com/Orange-Aluminum-French-Cleat-Panels/dp/B07N99JSMR/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=orange+aluminum+z+channel&qid=1622059745&sr=8-4\

Charles, than ks. I think I can do this with my skill set and it would not be visible. I would just route out the back of the stringer so it would accept the cleat once installed. Thanks brian

lowell holmes
05-26-2021, 5:41 PM
I would put a 3/4" board on the wall with dowel pins in it and put glue a board with blind dowel holes to match it. I would either glue or nail it.

johnny means
05-26-2021, 7:10 PM
You could do a tapered dovetail across the back. A task with a mallet would lock it in place. A tap from the opposite end would break it loose.

Rich Engelhardt
05-27-2021, 6:53 AM
Yep - tapered dovetail.

Jim Becker
05-27-2021, 9:04 AM
Metal keyhole inserts on the back that engage appropriately sized screws into the wall studs will do the job just fine. I would not cut the keyholes directly in the wood for this application. The metal inserts provide four screw points in the corners and that can be augmented with epoxy for a very strong hanging solution.

One other option is a full length sliding dovetail. It can provide similar strength to a French cleat but is largely invisible other than the tell-tail dovetail provide at one or both ends. There would need to be the lateral space to at least one side to be able to slide the unit onto the dovetail.

Tom Bender
05-31-2021, 7:15 AM
If that bar is .. say .. 3/4 x 3 it will need to be well fastened to every stud. Skip one and it's going to twist. Put screws thru it into the studs. You might have to angle one or two if the arms get in the way.

Now you have screws to hide. This is an opportunity to put a little interest into your design. Install a covering bar say .. 1 x 3/8 .. over the screws in pieces between the arms. Cut the end ones an inch short of the ends.

Those arms are going to poke bumps into whatever is hung on them, especially wet clothes. You should have a much rounder top.