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steven c newman
03-27-2021, 8:30 PM
A large bevel gauge...
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Has Sargent stamped on the blade with a July 23 1873 Patent date..
Handle is 6-1/2" long, counting the steel thumbscrew....hmmmm?
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Also found a pair of socket chisels....and this Greenlee No. 442..
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The 1/4" chisel is a Witherby....the 1/2" one MIGHT be a PEXTO....

Was on a "walk about" in my car....( spent $5 on the Sargent, BTW)

Found a huge ball peen hammer, too...
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Along with that Stanley No. 5-1/4, T-20...and that Hanson egg beater drill....

When you can walk into a room, and see a wall like this...
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Or something like like just sitting around on the floor...
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So..how big was that hammer?
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I might have a tack hammer bigger...

Was just out hitting a few places I hadn't been to lately....:rolleyes:

Mel Fulks
03-28-2021, 12:00 AM
That’s a nice “bevel gauge”. No beat up wood ,and a nice out of the way turn button.

Geoff Emms
03-28-2021, 7:41 PM
Steven,
As far as I can find your bevel gauge was patented by Samual D. Sargent and assigned to the Stanley Rule & Level Co, July 22 1873, Patent No 141,081.
The well known Sargent & Co of New Haven CT, was, I believe, owned by Joseph B. Sargent.
To have the patent info on it, could it be over 140 years old?
Hope this is helpful,
Cheers,
Geoff.

Stew Denton
03-29-2021, 7:53 AM
Steven,

Ya did good! I especially like the socket chisels.

The hammer reminds me of a clip in MAD magazine from well over 50 years ago about carpenters advise on hammers. It was specifically about carpenters claw hammers, but with that hammer the advise could also fit. It went something like this:

"When using a hammer always use white medical tape, and tape your ear close to your head so you won't catch it with a hammer. That will give you a clear shot at your thumb."

Stew

steven c newman
03-31-2021, 2:22 PM
The question I'm having....is this a Sargent made gauge....or is it a Stanley?...The only markings on it are a "Sargent's" "Patent" JULY 22 1973

Only markings on the handle are where someone "marked" it with a triangular file....

No mention anywhere about "Stanley"..


Other question....is about that Greenlee No. 442 spiral screwdriver....with a rosewood handle, no less. Any info?
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even at full extension...
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The spiral stays hidden....came with a Phillips#2 tip, BTW

There was an AMF Block plane...that I should have bought...
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Cute, ain't it? has the A. M F. spelled out on the rear deck...skinny little "apron" plane....twas sitting on a shelf...
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may go back and pick it up...IF it is still there.....

details on the bevel gauge..
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two pins down at the end..go all the way through. Handle to tighten the gauge has a pin peened through it. "Bolt" as the pivot, looks almost like a split nut.....lots of "patina" but no rust....spent $5 on it..

Jim Koepke
03-31-2021, 2:59 PM
The best source of information on the bevel gauge is on this page:

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DATAMP > http://www.datamp.org/patents/displayPatent.php?pn=141081&id=10407

Is a very good source of patent information.

If Samuel D. Sargent was related to the Sargent Company, maybe there was a little friction in the family.

Interesting information about Samuel D. Sargent is he also came up with the knuckle joint cap on block planes > http://www.datamp.org/patents/search/advance.php?pn=355031&id=8916&set=5

He had 5 patents in total. His first "Improvement in Carpenter's Bevels" was assigned to L. Bailey in 1872.

jtk

steven c newman
03-31-2021, 4:40 PM
When and picked up that Apron Plane....American Tool & Foundry..blade is only 1-3/16" wide...plane is 1-5/8" wide by 6-1/4" long....and of course, they had the iron in bevel down..

Also picked a Stanley No. 51 spokeshave...with the clipped corner logo on the blade...

a North Bros. No. 135, made before Stanley bought them out..even has a screwdriver bit....
Will wait until I get a few photos processed....have what looks like a sash chisel.....except there be a groove down the back....

Will post a few pictures in a bit...

steven c newman
03-31-2021, 5:12 PM
And...here we go...Apron plane?
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And the sole...
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That spokeshave?
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Why do they always look like a crab>
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Says it is a No. 51.....
And..a strange chisel....from about any angle, it looks like a sash chisel...but...
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I don't think this was supposed to be flat?
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This was made by a Div. of Stanley Tools....from after 1949....I think....

steven c newman
03-31-2021, 5:14 PM
Missed one...the view from the side of that chisel...
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How does one sharpen this thing?

Geoff Emms
03-31-2021, 9:13 PM
Steven,
DATAMP is also where I got my info' on the bevel gauge. As Jim said it is a very good research site. It is reliant on volunteers to add new info as it comes to light. The stewards at DATAMP would probably appreciate a good quality photo of your gauge, showing the important patent date. If you are interested in assisting them, have a look at this link: http://www.datamp.org/

Cheers,
Geoff.

steven c newman
04-01-2021, 6:44 PM
Ok....Then there is this Apron Plane....
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Compared to a "normal" Stanley No. 110...
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And...placed beside a Stanley No. 7c, Type 9...
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There are 2 No. 7s on that shelf....next shelf up is a pair of No. 6s....

Wasn't much I could do with the sole, though...
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Didn't want to get too thinned out....
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THAT is the washer it came with...after a good cleaning up.
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It will make shavings, too.....