anyone else sell anything like this

[Brian Runau]

I have a nice big assembly table, but did not build a vice into it. Looking for something to hold pieces for stub tenon work and hand planing like this?

Thanks Brian

https://www.woodpeck.com/ott-vise-less-work-support.html
(https://www.woodpeck.com/ott-vise-less-work-support.html)

[Frederick Skelly]

I dont know of a vendor. But if you wanted to save a few bucks, you can use 4 clamps and achieve the same basic thing. Use 2 big screw clamps to hold it vertical and 2 F-clamps to hold the screw clamps on the bench. If thatxs not stable enough, you could make a moxon vise variant and fasten it to the bench with F-clamps.

[Jim Becker]

If you have dog holes in that work surface, there are options for workholding that are "vice like" without the vice. They are not for heavy clamping pressure, but to keep things in place while working them as your describe they will work fine. For shop made...stops and wedges work really nicely. Lee Valley's Veritas brand has dogs with horizontal clamping. Etc.

[johnny means]

Handscrews.

[Ray Newman]

As Johnnymeans posted: handscrews!

[Brian Runau]

If you have dog holes in that work surface, there are options for workholding that are "vice like" without the vice. They are not for heavy clamping pressure, but to keep things in place while working them as your describe they will work fine. For shop made...stops and wedges work really nicely. Lee Valley's Veritas brand has dogs with horizontal clamping. Etc.

Jim, I built a dead flat away table that I s 4ft 8ft. Top sits on cabinets and the bottom is med and there are multiple 6x6 med crosses on edge in the next layer and the top is another layer of med. I have a replaceable sheet of masonite on top. I don't see a way to add a vice and not sure dogs would hold over time. No way for me to hold a board on it's edge to plane it. Thanks Brian

[richard poitras]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_QsnUk0Bec

You can make something like this anyway and any configuration and get the same results. Or just a few pieces and make it the same as the woodpecker track. Or check out u-tub for more lay outs.

[Brian Runau]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_QsnUk0Bec

You can make something like this anyway and any configuration and get the same results. Or just a few pieces and make it the same as the woodpecker track. Or check out u-tub for more lay outs.

Thanks. I already have a 4 x 8 away table, no room for more tables. Thanks

[Jim Becker]

An "L" shaped fixture clamped to the table or with threaded knobs into threaded inserts would provide a means to clamp a board on edge to plane, etc. Adding threaded inserts to the work surface would allow multiple fixtures to be held in place to help with the things you want to do.

[Brian Runau]

An "L" shaped fixture clamped to the table or with threaded knobs into threaded inserts would provide a means to clamp a board on edge to plane, etc. Adding threaded inserts to the work surface would allow multiple fixtures to be held in place to help with the things you want to do.

Jim, thanks. I have seen threaded inserts you hammer in, but would these be large enough to hold. Brian

[Bennett Yuro]

Would a moxon vise clamped to the table not be close to this?

[Brian Runau]

Would a moxon vise clamped to the table not be close to this?

Thanks Bennett. This is a great positive suggestion. Much appreciated. Brian

[Brian Runau]

If you have dog holes in that work surface, there are options for workholding that are "vice like" without the vice. They are not for heavy clamping pressure, but to keep things in place while working them as your describe they will work fine. For shop made...stops and wedges work really nicely. Lee Valley's Veritas brand has dogs with horizontal clamping. Etc.

Jim thanks for your help appreciate it., Brian

[Phil Mueller]

Brian, not sure how much clamping room you have on the top (overhang, etc), but perhaps these in-line clamps from LV would work for you?

451861

~$40....

[Andrew Gibson]

Try searching for a Moxon Vise. They have been gaining popularity with hand tool folks and the Roubo craze. There are all sorts of stuff out there from complete vises, to kits, to diy plans.

[Jim Becker]

Jim, thanks. I have seen threaded inserts you hammer in, but would these be large enough to hold. Brian

I don't recommend "hammer in" inserts. You want to choose inserts that are optimized for the material your work surface is made from..softer materials want deeper threading; harder materials finer threading...and drill the correct size hole to screw them into. (That may or may not require you to buy a drill bit if it's not in your current collection) If you carefully design your "system" you don't need a lot of inserts...2-5 max I would think at regular spacing so your fixtures can be consistent and you can easily put small relief holes in your hardboard topper(s). Knobs with threaded stems are easy to come by. When you are not actually using the setup...your work surface is completely blank.

[Jason Jurusz]

I have a nice big assembly table, but did not build a vice into it. Looking for something to hold pieces for stub tenon work and hand planing like this?

Thanks Brian

https://www.woodpeck.com/ott-vise-less-work-support.html
(https://www.woodpeck.com/ott-vise-less-work-support.html)

Good heavens, man. Just make it. That's a couple lengths - call it 2x 48" (maybe 30 bucks each?) - of 2080 Aluminum extrusion and a Powermatic t-track hold-down kit (15 bucks). 75 bucks, tops, call it $100, delivered. Looks like 8 cuts? Maybe -MAYBE - 10? Any non-ferrous/aluminum/plywood/high tooth count blade on the tables saw/miter saw/band saw will yield a clean cut. Maybe 90 seconds with a file afterwards.

90 seconds of googling (I'm SURE you can get it cheaper. Go to 8020 inc's website so they at least combine the shipping for you; the links below are not affiliate links):

https://www.amazon.com/80-20-Inc-T-Slotted-Extrusion/dp/B001F0K4IW
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N5WC8BK


Just my 2¢ (Et quia id quod reddere).

Hell, if you're in the Kansas City area, I'LL​ make it for you.

[Brian Runau]

Good heavens, man. Just make it. That's a couple lengths - call it 2x 48" (maybe 30 bucks each?) - of 2080 Aluminum extrusion and a Powermatic t-track hold-down kit (15 bucks). 75 bucks, tops, call it $100, delivered. Looks like 8 cuts? Maybe -MAYBE - 10? Any non-ferrous/aluminum/plywood/high tooth count blade on the tables saw/miter saw/band saw will yield a clean cut. Maybe 90 seconds with a file afterwards.

90 seconds of googling (I'm SURE you can get it cheaper. Go to 8020 inc's website so they at least combine the shipping for you; the links below are not affiliate links):

https://www.amazon.com/80-20-Inc-T-Slotted-Extrusion/dp/B001F0K4IW
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N5WC8BK


Just my 2¢ (Et quia id quod reddere).

Hell, if you're in the Kansas City area, I'LL​ make it for you.

Jason I thought about that, but I think the Moxon vise is a good option for me. I don't do a lot of hand work, but when I do I need something to hold it for me. thanks brian

[Jason Jurusz]

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I'm just saying: of all; the WP OneTime tools I've seen over the years, that's the first one where my knee-jerk reaction is, "you're kidding, right?" I don't delude myself into thinking I could home-fabricate /precision-mill something like their Fibonacci Gauge or their Stair Tread and Shelf Gauge - not with the accuracy of their industrial laser-cut supplier; that would be hubris. But that Viseless Work Support...

I dunno what your budget is, but depending on that I can make some suggestions, moxon-vice wise, if you're of a mind.

[Brian Runau]

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I'm just saying: of all; the WP OneTime tools I've seen over the years, that's the first one where my knee-jerk reaction is, "you're kidding, right?" I don't delude myself into thinking I could home-fabricate /precision-mill something like their Fibonacci Gauge or their Stair Tread and Shelf Gauge - not with the accuracy of their industrial laser-cut supplier; that would be hubris. But that Viseless Work Support...

I dunno what your budget is, but depending on that I can make some suggestions, moxon-vice wise, if you're of a mind.

well I must be a complete idiot then huh!

[Jim Matthews]

A man with a few clamps could manage this with a sheet of plywood and (removable) screws. That's beer money you're budget can't replace...

[Dave Cav]

I'll add to the Moxon vise argument. I don't use mine a lot but it's handy to have when I need it. I made it for the cost of a piece of all-thread and some threaded inserts.

[Bruce Wrenn]

An "L" shaped fixture clamped to the table or with threaded knobs into threaded inserts would provide a means to clamp a board on edge to plane, etc. Adding threaded inserts to the work surface would allow multiple fixtures to be held in place to help with the things you want to do.


I have a piece 3 X 3 aluminum angle just for this. It's about 3 feet long.