Dimensions of Stanley style hand planes

[Wes Billups]

I can't believe this has been so hard to find but I'm working on laying out a hand tool cabinet for my existing tools. I would like to build in some future proof spots for planes I'd love to get in the future but can't find the actual dimensions of Stanley or Lie-Nielsen planes listed anywhere. Lie-Nielsen's website has the length and blade width but for cabinet layout I'm most interested in the actual plane width as well as the height from sole to top of tote.

Just looking for the No. 1 - 8 sizes as I believe I've got what I need in low angle, block, and specialty planes. Of course I'll leave some extra room for future smaller planes but it's the big one's that I want to make sure have designated spots.

Does anyone know if such information is available anywhere? Let me know and sorry if this has been discussed. Searches of this site and the whole web didn't turn up the information I'm looking for.

I found this table and many like it.

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Thanks,
Wes

[Richard Line]

Based on my #4 & #5 Stanley planes the width is about 1/2 wider than the blade width. The #4 is a Type 11, the #5 is a made in England post war. Two no name #5's were 2 3/8 and 2 5/8 in width. All are 2 inch blades or course.

I'd say, add 1/2 inch to the blade width, plus some wiggle room for getting them in and out, and you should be good to go.

[Andrew Nemeth]

I'm most interested in the actual plane width as well as the height from sole to top of tote.


For design and layout of storage purposes, the critical height measurement for a bevel down metal bodied plane is usually from the sole of the plane to the top edge of the iron, not to the top of the tote. The top of the tote is usually tucked in behind the frog and below the lateral adjuster and the top edge of the iron. Of coarse, the length of the iron can vary, and some aftermarket replacement irons appear tall compared to OEM irons. For most bevel up metal bodied planes, the distance from the sole to top of the tote IS the critical height measurement.

[Jim Koepke]

Wes, On the blade widths the major error on the chart is for the #5-1/2. The blade width was changed on later planes to 2-3/8".

jtk

[Phil Mueller]

Check out Patrick Leach Blood and Gore site. He provides overall dimensions for Stanley bench and block planes.

[Jim Koepke]

Check out Patrick Leach Blood and Gore site. He provides overall dimensions for Stanley bench and block planes.

Patrick Leach also states the length is not always the same from year to year or batch to batch.

His dimensions:


#4 Smooth plane, 9"L, 2"W, 3 3/4lbs, 1869-1984.

The width dimension is for the blade only.

jtk

[Phil Mueller]

Correct, Jim. Perhaps it would just be easier for all of us to measure our planes. I’ll start:

#4C Type 11: 9 3/8 x 2 3/8. (The tote extends about 1/2” beyond the heel of the sole - included in my measurement)
#5C Type 11: 14 x 2 3/8
#7 Type 5/6: 21 1/2 x 2 7/8

All the Stanley’s I have.....

[Wes Billups]

Phil, that's very kind of you. Based on the lack of one source I'm beginning to think these dimensions have never really been put down in one place. I'll measure my Stanley #3 Type 16 tonight and post to this thread. I also just picked up a used LN #4 and I'll see how it's dimensions compare to your Stanley.

The #7 is really what I wanted to get dimensions on. I don't have one but someday hope to pick up a #7 or #8 and want to make sure I build in enough room to handle either one.

Thanks again for everyone's input.
Wes

[David Bassett]

OK, I'll play.



Stanley #3
Bailey
Type 14*
9-1/2" L
2-1/8" W
5"** T
(1-3/4" iron)


Stanley #5-1/4
Bailey
(unknown)
11-3/8" L
2-1/8" W
5"** T
(1-3/4" iron)


Stanley #7
Bailey
Type 15*
21-3/4" L
2-7/8" W
5-1/2"** T
(2-3/8" iron)











plus:








Record #6
Hartville
Tools

18" L
2-7/8" W
5-1/2"** T
(2-3/8" iron)



* or so I was told by seller, but no warranty.
** may vary depending on iron, iron wear, & length.

The #6, I was told, was made by Record for Hartville Tools to sell as a house brand.

[Wes Billups]

Here's what I've got and measured last night. I was surprised that the LN Bronze #4 was slightly wider than the Stanley #4 Type 15. Also didn't realize that a Stanley #3 is nearly same length as a Stanley #4.

Stanley #3 Type 16? 9-1/4" L 2-1/8" W 5" T
Stanley #4 Type 15 9-1/2" L 2-3/8" W 5" T
Lie-Nielsen #4 Bronze Body 9-1/2" L 2-7/16" W 5" T
Stanley #5 Type 15 14" L 2-3/8" W 5-1/4" T

[Scott Winners]

I have a few. None of mine have the tote tip contributing to the length, the sole is the length. I rounded everything up to the next eighth of one inch. Height on mine were all controlled by iron length or lateral adjustment lever height.

#3 Bailey, type 15 h 5.125, iron, w 2.25 L 9.25
#4 Kobalt, home store, h 5.375 iron, w 2.625, L 10.0
#4 Bailey, type 16, h 5.25 LAL, w 2.50, L 9.375 - this one has a new Veritas iron on it that does not stand higher that the LAL
#4 1/2 Bailey, type 15, h 5.375 iron, w 3.0, L 10.375
#5c Bailey, type 19, h 5.25 iron , w 2.50, L 14.125
# 5 1/2c Bailey, type 8, 5.25 LAL, w 2.75, L 15.0
#6 Bailey, type 15, h 5.625 iron, w 3.0, L 18
#8 Bailey, type 6, h 5.25 LAL, w 3.125, L 23.75 - this one has a new Veritas iron in it that does not stand higher than the LAL

[Jim Koepke]

To the best of my looking at all above, other than a later type #5-1/2 with a 2-3/8" blade, these four are the only ones not listed yet:

LN #1 L 5-3/4" W1-1/2" H 3-1/4" (This should be pretty close to the Stanley/Bailey size if not the same. A Lie-Nielsen version of the #1 will be a lot less than a Stanley/Bailey model.)

Stanley/Bailey #2 L 7-5/8" W 1-15/16" H 4-1/2"

Stanley/Bailey #10-1/2 L 9-5/16 W 2-1/8" H 5"

Stanley #40 L 9-11/16" W 1-11/16" H 4-1/2"

Just realized the Stanley version of the #10 & #10-1/4 is also missing.

jtk