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Chris Morrow
01-24-2021, 4:29 PM
Hi all,
I'm looking for any opinions from hands-on experience with the s440p/s540p bandsaws (not the older Centauro s400p/s500p - I've already read all those threads and know they are well liked). These are the new ACM-sourced bandsaws from SCM. Exchanged a quick email with Sam Blasco who confirmed they are ACM BS line (apparently heavier duty compared to the lighter Star line)

Does anyone own one or have hands-on time?
thx

Jim Becker
01-24-2021, 5:00 PM
No experience, but I'd be very, very surprised if the new saws were anything less than the previous, given that SCM/Minimax has built a strong case over the years for their machines. I've not seen a lot of evidence on them "cheaping out" on beefiness.

Erik Loza
01-24-2021, 6:24 PM
OP, they will be functionally equivalent to any of the “HD” Lagunas, which have been around forever.

Erik

Chris Morrow
01-26-2021, 3:22 PM
Thanks Jim and Erik,
I was hoping some owners would chime in but perhaps they are not so common yet
Chris

Erik Loza
01-26-2021, 3:30 PM
Thanks Jim and Erik,
I was hoping some owners would chime in but perhaps they are not so common yet
Chris


Chris, this is my opinion: Any of the European bandsaws will be the best you ever use. Longevity, workmanship, etc. Buy once, cry once. You won't be unhappy, whatever incarnation you end up with.That being said, it's a shame that Centauro no longer has a distributor here in the US. Those particular machines are something special. For those who still own an original MM16/S400P, don't ever get rid of it.

Erik

roger wiegand
01-26-2021, 5:10 PM
Maybe we could get together for a group buy? :D

I've been hunting the used market for a while now. Found one older ~24" Centauro that had been bollixed up in a variety of ways, I was surprised at how little resaw height it had; less than my 14" Delta. The more recent machines have definitely solved that problem.

Dave Sabo
01-27-2021, 12:30 AM
Chris, this is my opinion: Any of the European bandsaws will be the best you ever use. Longevity, workmanship, etc. Buy once, cry once. You won't be unhappy, whatever incarnation you end up with.That being said, it's a shame that Centauro no longer has a distributor here in the US. Those particular machines are something special. For those who still own an original MM16/S400P, don't ever get rid of it.

Erik

unless he uses a Northfield. :p


of course, it’ll never look as sleek and stylish as those Italian saws

Robert LaPlaca
01-27-2021, 8:47 AM
That being said, it's a shame that Centauro no longer has a distributor here in the US.

Erik

Hum, http://www.premiermach.com/centauro/

Erik Loza
01-27-2021, 10:41 AM
Hum, http://www.premiermach.com/centauro/

Sorry, Robert: Calling a dealer like that and asking them to sell you a bandsaw is like asking a John Deere tractor dealer to sell you Vespa. Even if they indulged you, it would probably cost a fortune, take forever to get here, and they would never want to hear from you again.

Now, if some bold soul called them and said, "We're interested in buying a container of Centauro bandsaws", you'd probably get somewhere.

Erik

Robert LaPlaca
01-27-2021, 12:12 PM
Eric, I guess my only point to the link, was to point out someone is obviously importing Centauro into the US..Not to suggest a one off purchase from this dealer.

Erik Loza
01-31-2021, 10:34 AM
Eric, I guess my only point to the link, was to point out someone is obviously importing Centauro into the US..Not to suggest a one off purchase from this dealer.

Gotcha’, Robert. Interesting story: I randomly walked into a millshop in San Antonio about a year ago. The owner does almost exclusively millwork for historical restorations in our area of Texas. One of those deals where he doesn’t exist on the web but is “the” guy for this type of work. Anyhow, he’s showing me around his shop and lo and behold, there’s a Centauro hydraulic lathe and more shockingly, actually operational and in-use. We had a nice chat about that. First one I’d ever seen in person. Not a common machine here in the states.

Erik

David Kumm
01-31-2021, 12:10 PM
hey Erik, does Felder intend to phase out their 640 ACM sourced bandsaw? I would think it and the SCM 640 would be pretty close comparisons. Dave

Erik Loza
01-31-2021, 12:21 PM
hey Erik, does Felder intend to phase out their 640 ACM sourced bandsaw? I would think it and the SCM 640 would be pretty close comparisons. Dave

Dave, I don’t think so but then again, our non-ACM machines probably outsell the ACM’s by about 20:1.

Erik