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Erez Perelman
01-13-2021, 10:56 AM
Hi, I am looking for a good quality jigsaw that has an automatic blade brake once the power is turned off (rather than wait for it to cycle down a few seconds). This is for some repeat cut I have to make and lift the tool each time and fit back into a pilot hole, which ends up costing me time not to mention mistakes in case I am impatient;)
Thanks!

glenn bradley
01-13-2021, 11:08 AM
This made me curious so I had to go and check. Both my Ridgid cordless and my Bosch 1590 stop immediately when the trigger is released. The only other jig saw I had any long term exposure to was the typical cheap-o Skilsaw jumping jack that really isn't a tool at all. I do not recall ever having to wait for it to wind down either. Are we sure we're talking about jig saws here?

Dan Hahr
01-13-2021, 11:10 AM
That is some kind of impatience. I don’t think that would be a feature on any jig saw. My Bosch probably stops in about a second. I do have to think about letting it stop before I pull it straight up out of the cut.

Dan

Erez Perelman
01-13-2021, 1:25 PM
Thanks for the responses. I checked out a youtube video and saw the Bosch 1590 run a couple seconds still after turn off. But it looks like a quality machine.
I was considering Festool, but also saw some bad reviews, so not sure what to go on.
Regarding the impatience- its just a question of how many cuts you gotta make and the little time to wait for it to stop moving adds up ( 10 or 100 or 1000 x 2 seconds = chance for screwup)
i prefer not a cordless tool, even tho I heard some of them do stop instantly.

Will Allen
01-13-2021, 1:27 PM
I have all kinds of electric jigsaws I collected over the years. Never touch any of them now. I only use my cordless Makita.

Jim Becker
01-13-2021, 1:30 PM
My Festool shuts off nearly immediately. It also cuts accurately in very thick material with the proper blade and the guides properly adjusted. (barrel design, not d-handle)

ChrisA Edwards
01-13-2021, 1:33 PM
Ditto what Jim said, my Festool Carvex is the best cutting/straight cutting jigsaw I've owned.

Love it.

glenn bradley
01-13-2021, 1:58 PM
My bad, my Bosch is the 1591 barrel grip. When I release the trigger the blade does continue to move but it doesn’t even make it to the next cycle of up or down depending on the direction it’s going so, nowhere near a second. Maybe there is a perception thing about how long a second is . . . LOL.

Roger Feeley
01-13-2021, 4:18 PM
That is some kind of impatience. I don’t think that would be a feature on any jig saw. My Bosch probably stops in about a second. I do have to think about letting it stop before I pull it straight up out of the cut.

Dan
Dan,
I see it as an effort to optimize steps in production. If you have to do 1000 cuts a day, a half second saves you something like 8 minutes.

Dave Sabo
01-13-2021, 4:31 PM
Dan,
I see it as an effort to optimize steps in production. If you have to do 1000 cuts a day, a half second saves you something like 8 minutes.

um OK.

Sounds like a six sigma black belt looking to squeeze out a bit more. I’d counter with , maybe a jigsaw isn’t the correct tool for the job if you’re making 1000 cuts a day. Erez, sounds like a plasma or laser cutter or a small cnc would be better suited to the task. It would also allow you to do another revenue producing task at the same time.

And 8 min. Is going to allow you to do what else or earn how much more in revenue ? You’ll could also raise your rates a 1/4% and make even more. Customers won’t notice.

Take a deep breath, think like a surgeon and not an automobile assembly line worker.

John Lanciani
01-13-2021, 5:43 PM
My bad, my Bosch is the 1591 barrel grip. When I release the trigger the blade does continue to move but it doesn’t even make it to the next cycle of up or down depending on the direction it’s going so, nowhere near a second. Maybe there is a perception thing about how long a second is . . . LOL.

So just for kicks i went out to the shop and pulled out my 1591. It is well broken in but still pretty factory fresh. Using a stopwatch I ran it at full speed and shut it off 10 times and came up with an average coast down time right at 2 seconds. My best guess on stroke count in that 2 seconds is +/- 20 strokes.

The 1591 doesn't have a trigger, it has a on/off slide switch with a separate speed dial on the rear of the saw.

Bill Dufour
01-13-2021, 7:19 PM
I think if it stopped that fast things would break or the blade would get thrown out. Stripped gears come to mind. on metal lathes, and most machines, no faster then 3 seconds deceleration is recommended. If the load is heavy and spinning fast even longer and you will have to add a braking resister to absorb the energy. If not the back EMF can fry the controls.
This is one reason threaded chucks are no longer used. Stop them too fast and they can unthead and go flying with hundreds of pounds of workpiece still firmly held in the jaws.
Bil lD

glenn bradley
01-14-2021, 1:00 AM
So just for kicks i went out to the shop and pulled out my 1591. It is well broken in but still pretty factory fresh. Using a stopwatch I ran it at full speed and shut it off 10 times and came up with an average coast down time right at 2 seconds. My best guess on stroke count in that 2 seconds is +/- 20 strokes.

The 1591 doesn't have a trigger, it has a on/off slide switch with a separate speed dial on the rear of the saw.

Wow, that is quite a difference. I wonder if I have the speed dialed low from whatever I was doing last? Sorry about the trigger/switch terminology confusion;-)

Erez Perelman
01-14-2021, 1:31 AM
Perfect sense what you guys say. The 8 minutes saved in a day is not really the issue. Its not $$ time that I am trying to save here. It is time that is used in deep concnetration when making a cut that has to stay within tight bounds and not ruin an expensive guitar neck. Those few seconds I have to stand holding the tool while it is cycling down is precious concentration time, and it is something that anyone who does precision work with repition knows you want to be efficient as possible.

I think there are tools out there with a need for a quick stop either for safety, convenience, or more accuracy. My hammer 4400 bandsaw has an electric brake system that stops the blade within a second which otherwise would keep turning for a long time... The table saw brake system is a good safety feature, which I would buy if it wasn't so expensive. But with these little tools it should be a pretty simple matter to add this feature for convenience and accuracy (I have made screwups because of this that it is somethng I am willing to pay extra $$ for)

if you are curious, here is the cut i am making, the slots on the headstock: 449378

Erez Perelman
01-14-2021, 6:51 AM
AFter some more research, I ended up ordering a cordless Makita (DJV180) which seems to stop fast as soon as you let go of the trigger (at least that's how it looks in videos on Youtube). I've been using a really cheap machine for years, and I'm sure this will be an upgrade... Thanks for all the input.

Jim Becker
01-14-2021, 9:45 AM
Erez, be sure you're using a quality blade with a tooth configuration appropriate for the job and make sure any blade guides are adjusted properly...your cuts should be just fine for that, staying just away from the line and then cleaning it up with files. You may want to rig up a good fixture to securely hold and support the workpiece. I'll assume you're cutting the slots prior to shaping the back of the neck which will make securing things a lot easier! You want that workpiece secured down tight for such a delicate cut in what is often expensive material.

Ron Selzer
01-14-2021, 10:22 AM
Follow up after you use the Makita and let us know how it meets your needs
thanks
Ron

Erez Perelman
01-17-2021, 4:10 AM
Just received the Makita cordless jigsaw. Its what you would expect if you know the makita cordless tools, pretty well designed and mechanically works very well. Nothing 'cast', but for my purposes it is exactly what I need since it stops instantly when you let go of the trigger.
The quality test on any tool will be time and for that I can't write so soon. But I do have a few Makita tools (cordless and corded) and they haven't disappointed..
Surprisingly, I was just looking where it was made, expecting China or Japan, but its made in the UK!?!? didn't expect that;)

Jim Matthews
01-17-2021, 8:33 AM
I also have a "vintage" Makita 18v jigsaw that's on its third battery. The oscillation setting controls blade bounce a little, but cut quality is almost entirely down to the blades. I use Bosch T101 series.

For any precision, a miter box and pull saw get my best results. Being slower, I can avoid overcutting.

https://www.boschtools.com/us/en/boschtools-ocs/t-shank-jig-saw-blades-for-wood-t101bf-29427-p/

Ron Selzer
01-17-2021, 11:54 AM
Glad it turned out to be exactly what you wanted. Was not aware that any jigsaw stop instantly
ron


Just received the Makita cordless jigsaw. Its what you would expect if you know the makita cordless tools, pretty well designed and mechanically works very well. Nothing 'cast', but for my purposes it is exactly what I need since it stops instantly when you let go of the trigger.
The quality test on any tool will be time and for that I can't write so soon. But I do have a few Makita tools (cordless and corded) and they haven't disappointed..
Surprisingly, I was just looking where it was made, expecting China or Japan, but its made in the UK!?!? didn't expect that;)