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Adam Rowland
01-07-2021, 6:11 PM
Hi y'all this I'm new to the forum here and have to start by saying thank you to all the contributors and moderators out there. I am not a woodworker by trade but I have ended up teaching high school woodworking and sawmill creek has been a godsend to me.

That being said I recently purchased an old, beat up band saw that I plan on restoring but I cannot make heads or tails of who the manufacturer is. I understand that it can be restored without this information but I would really like to know. At first I thought it was a Centauro but I cannot match the upper cabinet shape to any of their models. There are no badges or evidence of badges besides the one on the motor and the blade guide (stamped Jolly S 40). Let me know if y'all have any ideas. Thanks.

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Tom Trees
01-07-2021, 6:16 PM
Hi y'all this I'm new to the forum here and have to start by saying thank you to all the contributors and moderators out there. I am not a woodworker by trade but I have ended up teaching high school woodworking and sawmill creek has been a godsend to me.

That being said I recently purchased an old, beat up band saw that I plan on restoring but I cannot make heads or tails of who the manufacturer is. I understand that it can be restored without this information but I would really like to know. At first I thought it was a Centauro but I cannot match the upper cabinet shape to any of their models. There are no badges or evidence of badges besides the one on the motor and the blade guide (stamped Jolly S 40). Let me know if y'all have any ideas. Thanks.

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Hello, I can't see pics but can say that it sounds like an ACM machine from Italy.
Tom

Erik Loza
01-07-2021, 6:45 PM
My semi-educated guess: Griggio or possibly Sagittario.

Erik

Bill Dufour
01-07-2021, 6:45 PM
Pull a nut or bolt and see if it is metric or imperial. What continent to you live on? That may narrow the choices a little. it does not look Soviet or Russian to me. I guess western European. The motor is clearly made in Italy so the entire saw is likely Italian. The switch does not look American to me, probably Europe.
Bill D.

Phillip Mitchell
01-07-2021, 7:38 PM
I have an Italian bandsaw that looks very similar to this. Mine is a Steton SN500, though I think it’s made by ACM in 1986. It’s not identical to yours, but had some striking similarities. I’ll see if I can dig up some photos of mine to post. It’s a solid saw that has cut well and been dependable for me the 3-4 years I’ve had it, though the original motor was replaced long before I got it with a 2 HP Century motor that I’d like to replace one day with a slightly bigger motor. Hope this helps.

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Matt Day
01-07-2021, 7:57 PM
Possibly Centauro?

Bill Dufour
01-08-2021, 12:20 AM
I am not aware of any french bandsaw makes. There are some quality French made lathes and they did make nice milling machines.
Bill D

Adam Rowland
01-08-2021, 12:55 PM
Thanks for the replies.

I'm in the U.S.

So I checked the hardware and it is metric, I can also see that the bearings for the wheels are made in Italy.

Also I have been trying to measure the diameter of the wheel but I am finding it difficult to be accurate due to the outcropping of the bearing housing/bolt. The circumference is 61" with the tires on the saw so with the tires the diameter is 19.4" or 492.76mm. Subtracting 1/8" for the thickness of the tire on both sides of the wheel (1/16" per side) puts me near 19.25" or 489mm. Is it fair to assume the bandsaw would have been listed as having 490mm wheels?

Myk Rian
01-08-2021, 1:24 PM
What continent to you live on?
Uh, he's in Denver?

David Kumm
01-08-2021, 1:49 PM
Saw could also be Meber. it could be a decent all around bandsaw but won't be the greatest at resawing with high tension blades. The older 18-20" Euro machines were not beefed up to tension a carbide blade. Fimec is common in Italy and if I bought the saw the first thing I would ddo is run the motor and if it runs, change the bearings. The Fimec motors tend to run hot at 60 hz and that is hard on bearings. Dave

Bill Dufour
01-08-2021, 2:03 PM
Uh, he's in Denver?


When I first saw this there was no location shown. Glad he updated his info.
Bill D.
Modesto, ca usa

Tom M King
01-08-2021, 2:48 PM
Looks like a Woodtek, which is a store brand for Woodworkers Supply. I don't know exactly, but the color is right, and I know they have some bandsaws that look sort of like that. I have several of their machines, and they are fine. I think they came out of the same Taiwanese factory as Grizzly stuff.

Phillip Mitchell
01-08-2021, 4:53 PM
This looks like an Italian built saw to me.

Peter Kelly
01-08-2021, 8:47 PM
I am not aware of any french bandsaw makes. There are some quality French made lathes and they did make nice milling machines.
Bill DLurem, Chambon/Guilliet and even Inca to name a couple French saws however the above is probably none of these. I'd say Italian but the low location of the motor is throwing me, not common with Agazzani, Meber, ACM, Centauro or Sicar. Off-chance it could be an Elektra Beckum but those always had aluminium tables and generally were smaller than the OP's.

Peter Kelly
01-08-2021, 8:54 PM
Looks like a Woodtek, which is a store brand for Woodworkers Supply. I don't know exactly, but the color is right, and I know they have some bandsaws that look sort of like that. I have several of their machines, and they are fine. I think they came out of the same Taiwanese factory as Grizzly stuff.The odds of finding a old Taiwanese bandsaw fitted with an Italian-made FIMEC motor would be incredibly small.

Dave Sabo
01-09-2021, 8:46 AM
I think that’s a Meber. It has the angled top spine that is characteristic of Meber saws. Member was also fond of stickers for build info instead of metal plates like the other Italian manuf., which would explain why you can’t find any info on the saw.

Like Tom says, it has the Woodtek livery but I wasn’t aware they ever used Italian sources for their products. Paint is cheap and easy to change, especially after the fact. I see Powermatic stuff in grey all the time. It’s definitely not an Asian built saw.

Tom Trees
01-09-2021, 3:40 PM
Does the ACM look close?
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Dave Sabo
01-09-2021, 9:35 PM
Does the ACM look close?
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subject saw is definitely not from ACM .

Mike Kees
01-10-2021, 8:27 AM
My guess is Meber for the same reason as Dave. That clipped off corner at the top of the spine is a Meber "thing". I have not seen a Meber with the motor at the bottom however.

Peter Kelly
01-10-2021, 3:38 PM
Centauro and Agazzani had that angled spine top on their saws for a while too. Also 2-tone paint.

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Dave Sabo
01-10-2021, 5:37 PM
Yes, but the Meber always ( or almost always) starts at the very top, not down the spine.

It's not conclusive, but I'd say it's more likely a Meber , than etither of the other two based on the quality (or lack) of the other parts of the saw.

Adam Rowland
01-10-2021, 8:47 PM
Thanks for all the input - I am willing to settle on the fact that it is some Italian made saw. If I end up figuring out the manufacturer, I will make sure to update y'all. I'll also try to post some photos on this thread once I finish restoring it which will probably be quite some time from now. Thanks again to all of you!

-Adam Rowland

Kevin Jenness
01-10-2021, 10:21 PM
What on earth happened to the upper door? Was someone trapped inside with a hammer?

Adam Rowland
01-11-2021, 2:40 PM
What on earth happened to the upper door? Was someone trapped inside with a hammer?

It's funny you say that, I had one of my class of high-schoolers try and help me with this question and when I told them it was most likely Italian they began to create all sorts of Mafia related theories in which a severed hand somehow got tossed around inside the upper cabinet.

Adam Rowland
01-11-2021, 2:41 PM
I'm leaning towards Meber as well - the shape and construction of the wheels most resembles that of a Meber.