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Brian Runau
09-14-2020, 4:16 PM
Looking for ideas where I might find something like this. 3/16" I think a #10, 4-3/4" length, can be hex head bolt(think they start at 1/4" though), machine screw, but need it to be black, oil rubbed bronze or black oxide finish in smaller quantities, not boxes of 100. Any idea where I might look? Thanks for any help.
Brian

Stewart Lang
09-14-2020, 4:53 PM
Did you try Google? There's a ton of large and small hardware suppliers online that you can search through. If you can't find it online, then it probably doesn't exist lol. Otherwise you can have a machine shop make it for you for an exorbitant price :)

mike stenson
09-14-2020, 5:02 PM
You could also blue steel bolts.

Earl McLain
09-14-2020, 7:42 PM
McMaster-Carr has a few choices in #10 x 5", but in either stainless or zinc. https://www.mcmaster.com/screws/rounded-head-screws/thread-size~10-24/length~5/ Also, they are boxes of 5 to 50 depending on what you choose. Shipping will be invoiced after the sale, but on that kind of order it would be minimal probably. I've had some fair success with black stove paint for screw heads (very careful on assembly), but bluing sounds better to me.
earl

Lloyd McKinlay
09-14-2020, 8:19 PM
You might look around Blacksmith Bolt & Rivet Supply. http://www.blacksmithbolt.com/

Chip Seltzer
09-14-2020, 8:23 PM
Find a lot of fasteners at boltdepot.com

johnny means
09-14-2020, 9:36 PM
We keep tool black in the shop. Anything we need in black just magically becomes black.

Bill Dufour
09-14-2020, 10:25 PM
I have used a sharpie marker to touch up small scratches on Volvo instrument panels. I bet a sharpie would be okay on a plain steel bolt. Doubt it would work on plated stock. Parkerized would also be a good choice. I think you can do that at home. Same process as seasoning a cooking pan. Done right a phosphate finish would look good
Search about gun blueing
Bill D.

Bill Dufour
09-14-2020, 10:33 PM
That sounds like there may be motor draw bolts that would work. Something in a small fractional horsepower motor. A router one would probably be too long. The threads are often rolled so the main body will be undersized if that matters.
Bil lD

Roger Feeley
09-15-2020, 9:03 AM
Brian,
You didn’t say what look you are going for. What’s the application?

I have disguised bolts bought at the big box store before to make the heads look less ‘big boxey’.
— remove the zinc coating to get to bare metal by tossing the bolts in Mountain Dew or Diet Pepsi. The phosphoric acid will take off that thin zinc coating overnight.
— I have a small metal lathe so I turn off that three letter code and maybe reshape the head a bit. I’ve flattened the tops of carriage bolts this way.
— use a propane torch to make the bolt the color I like using temper colors.
— dip the heads in a nice oil based floor varnish to preserve the finish.

Brian Runau
09-15-2020, 10:57 AM
Did you try Google? There's a ton of large and small hardware suppliers online that you can search through. If you can't find it online, then it probably doesn't exist lol. Otherwise you can have a machine shop make it for you for an exorbitant price :)

Yes, but this is really odd hardware. Hoping to narrow the search based on someone's experience. Brian

Brian Runau
09-15-2020, 10:58 AM
McMaster-Carr has a few choices in #10 x 5", but in either stainless or zinc. https://www.mcmaster.com/screws/rounded-head-screws/thread-size~10-24/length~5/ Also, they are boxes of 5 to 50 depending on what you choose. Shipping will be invoiced after the sale, but on that kind of order it would be minimal probably. I've had some fair success with black stove paint for screw heads (very careful on assembly), but bluing sounds better to me.
earl


it's for an outdoor screen porch and I was hoping to avoid anything I had to maintain. thanks brian

Brian Runau
09-15-2020, 10:58 AM
You might look around Blacksmith Bolt & Rivet Supply. http://www.blacksmithbolt.com/

Thanks. Brian

Brian Runau
09-15-2020, 11:01 AM
Brian,
You didn’t say what look you are going for. What’s the application?

I have disguised bolts bought at the big box store before to make the heads look less ‘big boxey’.
— remove the zinc coating to get to bare metal by tossing the bolts in Mountain Dew or Diet Pepsi. The phosphoric acid will take off that thin zinc coating overnight.
— I have a small metal lathe so I turn off that three letter code and maybe reshape the head a bit. I’ve flattened the tops of carriage bolts this way.
— use a propane torch to make the bolt the color I like using temper colors.
— dip the heads in a nice oil based floor varnish to preserve the finish.


Trying to use these on a screen porch frame and want to avoid any maintenanace. How would they do it I did not put the finish on them, rust over time? thanks brian

Bill Dufour
09-15-2020, 11:47 PM
I needed some 6" long 1/4 bolts to mount a switch box. I used all thread and screwed on a nut with some pipe soldering flux and soft soldered the nut on. Not real high torque but good enough. I could have silver soldered, brazed or tig welded on the nut if needed.
Bil lD

Joe Jensen
09-16-2020, 11:49 AM
Typical black bolts are black oxide finish and they will quickly rust outdoors. I live in very dry Arizona where I do not need to maintain cast iron surfaces at all and I have some black oxide bolts on machines in the shop with a bit of rust on them. I'd say stainless and paint if for outdoors.