Upgrading Festool ribbed hoses

[Derek Cohen]

Some weeks ago now, I became aware that my Festool CT26e vacuum cleaner was not sucking as strongly as it should ..


https://i.postimg.cc/J4YgTtJx/FinishingTheDrawers_html_39efb6ed.jpg


I have had the vacuum cleaner for about 5 years, and thought perhaps it was time to clean out the HEPA filter! This was done, and the performance seemed to return to original levels.


Just for reference, the HEPA filter looked pretty clean on one side, while the other was lightly dirty on the outside. Wacking it did dislodge a reasonable amount of dust from between the filter layers. One reason for the lighter-than-expected amount of dust was that it was used with a small cyclone, in this case, a Dust Commander. This replaced a Dust Deputy, which does not have anti-static properties.


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All this got me thinking about what could be done to improve the hoses used. There are four in the collection: the standard (green) 27mm Festool; a 35mm (blue) Bosch, which is identical to the 36mm Festool at half the price; a (black) 27mm Mirka, which is dedicated to a Mirka Ceros ROS sander; and a 20mm (black) Mirka hose, which is for the Mirka hand sanders.


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I became aware of these fancy new hoses from Festool, with smooth braided sides, and which were advertised for improved handling ...


https://i.postimg.cc/d1pmtPd6/144156-festool-3-5m-smooth-anti-static-hose-d-hero-500682.jpg


Could the new hose design be different from the old hose design? It was interesting to look at the inside of my hoses. The ribs appear small - much smaller internally than suggested from the outside or if one looked at those hoses used in dust collection systems ...


https://i.postimg.cc/QMJNHhhp/Bosch-35.jpg


https://i.postimg.cc/qRBJKSvW/Festool-27.jpg


I decided that it would not be cost-effective to replace the hoses for the braided exterior.


Then I came across a video of hoses being covered in the same material as those on the braided Festool, above. Rather than paying hundreds for a new hose, it would be possible to add a covering to each for about $10. Why do this? Because those damned ribbings catch when the hoses are slid along a bench top. This is an irritation when used with a sander, but dangerous when used with a router.


The woven covering is durable and said to offer a protective sheathing for the hoses. Where does one get these coverings? Just Google "BRAIDED HOSE SLEEVE KIT".


It looks like this. I chose black for all ...


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Remove the fittings ...


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Slide the hose in, tape down at one end, and then smooth it back to the start and pull tight ...


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I used self-sealing tape ...


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... and replace the fitting ...


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Each hose was colour-coded for ease of recognition ...


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I am now waiting on braiding for the Bosch hose ...


https://i.postimg.cc/dtwdTNYF/10a.jpg


In use, the hoses are magic. They feel so nimble and easy to move around ... one is far less aware of their presence.


They come in all colours. The hoses covered all used a 25mm diameter for the 20 - 27mm covering. The 35mm hose will require a 50mm diameter.


Regards from Perth


Derek

[Brian Tymchak]

That is awesome Derek! Thank you for posting. The ribs on my Mirka hose absolutely annoy me when they catch on the bench.

[Dick Mahany]

Derek many thanks for posting this info. I am looking to replace the braided sleeve on my 36mm Festool hose. I used a product that was recommended by a Festool dealer to sleeve the hose and a power cord. I believe the product was called Gorilla Flex. It has turned out to be way too rigid and the hose has a mind of its own and wants to self coil.

It was a mistake and I'll check out the material that you referenced.

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[mike stenson]

It looks like 1.25" techflex. We use this stuff in various sizes for gorping cables. It's great stuff, and makes things look nice and tidy in the process. I really only say this because I did google 'braided hose sleeve kit' and got nothing but stainless steel braided automotive lines (then again, google probably knows my other hobbies as well ;) and that one is a lot more expensive)

Derek, how was taking the ends off? Is it just a snap lock type detent?

[David Eisenhauer]

Oh Derek. Do you feel any shame whatsoever in depriving a poor, struggling, neighborhood hardware shop like Festool of the sale of one new, slick outer-cover replacement hose?

[Derek Cohen]

It looks like 1.25" techflex. We use this stuff in various sizes for gorping cables. It's great stuff, and makes things look nice and tidy in the process. I really only say this because I did google 'braided hose sleeve kit' and got nothing but stainless steel braided automotive lines (then again, google probably knows my other hobbies as well ;) and that one is a lot more expensive)

Derek, how was taking the ends off? Is it just a snap lock type detent?

Mike, I used that search title on eBay. Try “braided cable wrap” for Google.

Regards from Perth

Derek

[Derek Cohen]

Oh Derek. Do you feel any shame whatsoever in depriving a poor, struggling, neighborhood hardware shop like Festool of the sale of one new, slick outer-cover replacement hose?

:)

Regards from Perth

Derek

[glenn bradley]

I did the same thing but only the 40" or so before the tool end. This is the area that I snag with my setup. My hose is not a Festool. It does expand and contract a bit but, the sleeving (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XXFCYC1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)seems to tolerate it fine.

[Jim Becker]

I put the cover on my Festool hose awhile back, too, and also have a cord through it so it's "one" piece dragging behind the tool.

[Derek Cohen]

I put the cover on my Festool hose awhile back, too, and also have a cord through it so it's "one" piece dragging behind the tool.

Jim, I use the hoses with tools which use different cords. At least 3 different routers (two are Elu and one is a Makita trim) and 2 different ROS sanders (Festool and Mirka). The power cord arrangements are different for each. Consequently, hoses are used independently.

For those using one power cord system, it is certainly a consideration.


Regards from Perth


Derek

[Alan Lightstone]

I put the cover on my Festool hose awhile back, too, and also have a cord through it so it's "one" piece dragging behind the tool.

I did that too, but I find the electrical cord flapping in the breeze at the end when vacuuming to be a little annoying. Works fine when used for tools.

I never found a great solution for that.

[Tom Bender]

438522My hoses get dusty dragging around the floor. These sleeves look like they would pick up more dust. Do you find that happening?


Oops, irrelevant picture attached.

[Rod Sheridan]

Interesting, thanks Derek.

I noticed that my old ribbed hose is far stiffer than my new one with the sleeve on the outside..........Rod.

[Jim Becker]

I did that too, but I find the electrical cord flapping in the breeze at the end when vacuuming to be a little annoying. Works fine when used for tools.

I don't use my Festool vac for any kind of general cleanup, so that's not been an issue. I have a small, Ridgid vac for that.

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Derek, in your situation with multiple brand electric hand tools, a separate cord makes sense.

[Alex Zeller]

Instead of tape on the ends of the braided material you can use heat shrink tubing. A lot of electrical wiring harnesses use braided wire loom with heat shrink on the ends. It'll never unravel or come unstuck like tape.

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[mike stenson]

You can get heat shrink fabric too :) It's a bit more expensive, but it gives some options.

Very nice btw, I do love me some well managed cabling.

[Mike King]

Nice fix but it isn’t green...

[Jon McElwain]

The biggest issue I have with the standard Festool hoses is when using them with the track saw. The ribs catch on the edge of everything. The tracks come with a plastic kit at the end to guide the hose, but at some point the hose almost always has to be routed over the edge of a piece of plywood or whatever it is I am cutting. Do you find that the sleeve helps with this type of issue?

[Jim Becker]

The biggest issue I have with the standard Festool hoses is when using them with the track saw. The ribs catch on the edge of everything. The tracks come with a plastic kit at the end to guide the hose, but at some point the hose almost always has to be routed over the edge of a piece of plywood or whatever it is I am cutting. Do you find that the sleeve helps with this type of issue?
Yes, it does in my experience of putting a sleeve over my hose/cord. I have much less "binding" now on the edge of what I'm working with the track saw or the router or even sanders, for that matter. The latter is what gets the most use in my work.

[Peter Kelly]

Nice fix but it isn’t green...https://www.wirecare.com/interest/car-audio/general-wire-cable-protection/flexo-pet/ptn1.25og-flexo-pet-1-1-4-ogre-25-ft-cuts

You're welcome.