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Clarence Martinn
06-22-2020, 11:09 PM
With that Corona Virus, good dust masks have been impossible to find. Anyone got a good source for dust masks for woodturning and sanding on the Lathe ? Got the Jet DC 650 Dust Collector and the Overhead air filtration system; but can't find any Masks to wear.

Thanks,

Clarence.

Paul F Franklin
06-22-2020, 11:24 PM
If Wurth Baer services your area, I believe they have disposable n95 masks in stock (without exhale valves). I believe they also have some respirator models available.

And for the time being, anyway, you don't have to have a WB account to order PPE (only) from them.

Brian W Evans
06-23-2020, 8:07 AM
Get a respirator that uses disposable filters instead. They're much more comfortable, IMO.

I like this one: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008MCUT86

It is currently unavailable for some reason, but there must be others like it.

Steve Rozmiarek
06-23-2020, 8:31 AM
Good luck. I've been looking for months to restock my construction companies supply. We've resorted to other methods of working in dusty areas.

Matt Day
06-23-2020, 9:15 AM
Get a respirator that uses disposable filters instead. They're much more comfortable, IMO.

I like this one: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008MCUT86

It is currently unavailable for some reason, but there must be others like it.

Agreed. Get a face mask like a 3m with replaceable filters.

glenn bradley
06-23-2020, 9:26 AM
This became my new go-to (https://www.millerwelds.com/safety/respiratory/half-mask-respirators-m00469#!/?product-options-title=lpr-100-half-mask-respirator-s-m-ml00894)several years back. They started showing up in woodworking catalogs a while back with a price jump ;-( Still a good price at $30. These do not block peripheral vision like my 3M half mask but, I wear the half mask primarily for finishing with appropriate filters, not for using sharp things. The LPR-100 works great for wood spoil heavy operations around the shop. I do run a cyclone at the source for most things but, we have plenty of operations, both powered and not, that stir up plenty of fine dust.

Paul F Franklin
06-23-2020, 9:41 AM
This became my new go-to (https://www.millerwelds.com/safety/respiratory/half-mask-respirators-m00469#!/?product-options-title=lpr-100-half-mask-respirator-s-m-ml00894)several years back. They started showing up in woodworking catalogs a while back with a price jump ;-( Still a good price at $30. These do not block peripheral vision like my 3M half mask but, I wear the half mask primarily for finishing with appropriate filters, not for using sharp things. The LPR-100 works great for wood spoil heavy operations around the shop. I do run a cyclone at the source for most things but, we have plenty of operations, both powered and not, that stir up plenty of fine dust.

Seems to be the elipse mask, or maybe the elipse is rebranded miller. Either way, I've been unable to find replacement filter elements for mine since the start of the pandemic, at least from the usual sources. They are all out of stock. Maybe I'll try some of the welding supply places. Fortunately, I have a spare set of filters that I bought before Covid so I'm good for a while.

Robert Engel
06-23-2020, 9:48 AM
I just checked and there are plenty of surgical masks on Amazon.

No, not heavy duty N95's but better than nothing.

Jim Becker
06-23-2020, 9:52 AM
Tool Nut has been stocking KN-95 masks lately...availability comes and goes. Use what you can actually find, but long term, a ventilated shield is probably the better choice for turning purposes.

Bill Dufour
06-23-2020, 10:32 AM
Amazon and ebay have spare exhale valves you can add to a mask. I think they just punch and lock in with a trim piece or get hot glued.
Bill D

Tony Shea
06-23-2020, 10:41 AM
Amazon and ebay have spare exhale valves you can add to a mask. I think they just punch and lock in with a trim piece or get hot glued.
Bill D


What's the reason for adding an exhale valve?

And as far as getting a half face similar to the Eclipse, those are also out of stock just about everywhere I've looked. Luckily I own one already with a couple replacement filters but I just happened to check and they are not available anywhere.

mike stenson
06-23-2020, 10:49 AM
Get a respirator that uses disposable filters instead. They're much more comfortable, IMO.

I like this one: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008MCUT86

It is currently unavailable for some reason, but there must be others like it.

I can't find filters for any of mine, and can't replace them either.

They're not available for the same reason N95/P100 etc are difficult to get.

The KN-95's from Tool Nut are OK, they're ear loops though.. and those suck to wear for any kind of time.

David Bassett
06-23-2020, 2:06 PM
... they're ear loops though.. and those suck to wear for any kind of time.

Agreed!

I haven't tried these, but saved the link because they might help:

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B0875H3MMT/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

(https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B0875H3MMT/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
But the surgical / social distancing masks aren't what you really want for a wood shop!

Neil Gaskin
06-23-2020, 3:28 PM
Clarence,

It depends on what you are looking for.


Woodcraft has a few available for quick shipping. I recently ordered a few Dust Bee Gone masks and they came within the week or so. That was a few weeks ago so not sure if that has changed much.

https://www.woodcraft.com/search?q=dust+mask&button=search

RZ Masks seems to have limited stock but does have availability. https://rzmask.com/collections/best-sellers

I have purchased a few items for my remodeling company from MRO Supply. They have KN 95 masks for $1.00 a piece with a min order. I can't speak to quality. They are the Chinese "equivalent" to a N-95 but they have no rating from the US. I'd be skeptical but the cost is reasonable.

https://www.mrosupply.com/popular_products/mrosupply-coronavirus-protection/


With that Corona Virus, good dust masks have been impossible to find. Anyone got a good source for dust masks for woodturning and sanding on the Lathe ? Got the Jet DC 650 Dust Collector and the Overhead air filtration system; but can't find any Masks to wear.

Thanks,

Clarence.

Dan Chouinard
06-23-2020, 10:31 PM
Try envomask.com
Very comfortable fit with replaceable N95 filters. Made in Hampton, NH

Rick Potter
06-24-2020, 3:16 AM
I just clicked on the one Brian references from Amazon. It says they will be available June 30.

Scott Bernstein
06-24-2020, 5:45 AM
According to OSHA standards - and one can argue whether those would apply to a hobby woodworker - one needs to have a proper fitting in order to wear an N95 mask properly. This is to confirm that the mask in question does actually fit the user and to make sure the user knows how to put on the mask the correct way. If the mask doesn't fit correctly, or of it's not put on correctly it will not actually protect you to the N95 standard. Same applies to any mask with a tight-fitting seal. PAPRs, which do not require a tight-fitting seal to to functions properly do not require a fit test.

I think most woodworkers just figure even an improperly-fitting N95 will be better than no mask at all, and that's probably true... But if you want to really, really protect yourself - and be sure of it - you do need a fit test. Since this is not practical for a hobbiest, consider a PAPR.

I have a 3M versaflo, which works great. Comfortable, full face shield, and the continuous breeze in there feels great in a hot garage in the summer.

David Buchhauser
06-24-2020, 6:04 AM
Perhaps check your local Ace hardware store. My neighbor just bought some boxes of dust masks at out local Ace. I'm sure these are not N95, but probably sufficient for occasional use cutting wood.
David

Stan Calow
06-24-2020, 11:22 AM
I have seen some questionable Chinese N95 masks for sale, including at my local Ace. N95 was printed on the package bu there were no markings to indicate NIOSH approval which makes me think they're counterfeit.

Clarence Martinn
06-24-2020, 11:27 AM
Perhaps check your local Ace hardware store. My neighbor just bought some boxes of dust masks at out local Ace. I'm sure these are not N95, but probably sufficient for occasional use cutting wood.
David

I checked at the Ace Hardware in Town. Nothing until at least the Fall. They are sold out of every mask and respirator.

Mark Carlson
06-24-2020, 11:34 AM
I just ordered a 10 pack of KN95 (china standard) masks from wyze.com for $20. Its part of their covid initiative. Has to be better than the homemade cloth mask that I'm currently using.

Scott Bernstein
06-24-2020, 3:00 PM
There are a lot of fake "N95" masks out there. There are also masks that use N95-style material but do not have the ability to create an adequate seal so they would not pass NIOSH standards - I think many of the KN-95 masks are the later.

John K Jordan
06-24-2020, 9:10 PM
With that Corona Virus, good dust masks have been impossible to find. Anyone got a good source for dust masks for woodturning and sanding on the Lathe ? Got the Jet DC 650 Dust Collector and the Overhead air filtration system; but can't find any Masks to wear.

Thanks,

Clarence.

The last I checked the local farm store had industrial cartridge respirators. Although I have a bunch of 3M half and full face respirators I bought one extra from the farm store in case someone I knew needed one. Should I check to see if they still have some?

JKJ

Alan Lightstone
06-25-2020, 8:35 AM
There are a lot of fake "N95" masks out there. There are also masks that use N95-style material but do not have the ability to create an adequate seal so they would not pass NIOSH standards - I think many of the KN-95 masks are the later.

I have found this totally to be true. For now, medical workers are going to get preference for true N95 masks, so really tough to get for woodworkers. And it's truly disgusting how China is flooding our markets with the fake crap. Even if some are real, the ear loop versions would never pass a fit test, so you really are mostly breathing around the mask and it isn't doing much.

I'm a professional mask wearer (anesthesiologist), so I'm very accustomed to wearing masks for many hours at a time, and a true N95 mask is very difficult to wear - even in a freezing cold OR.

For my woodworking, I find the 3M half masks far more comfortable to wear for long periods. But they are very difficult to get now.

I'd go with whatever KN95 or N95 mask you can find and assume they are fake. As soon as you can get a 3M or Ellipse respirator with P100 cartridges, I'd change over to that.

Bryan Sevier
06-25-2020, 10:36 AM
I just ordered a new mask from RZ this week. The colors available are limited right now, but I just needed a dust mask, not a fashion statement.

https://rzmask.com/

Jim Becker
06-25-2020, 11:39 AM
I use the RZ in my shop when hand-sanding and it's nice and comfortable for that particular purpose.

Matthew Hills
06-25-2020, 5:44 PM
Our local woodcraft has a couple of dust masks in stock:
- Trend Air Stealth (https://www.woodcraft.com/products/air-stealth-half-mask-medium-large-trend) (N100)j; currently in stock online)
- Dust Bee Gone (https://www.woodcraft.com/products/large-dust-bee-gone-mask-maroon-edging?via=573621f669702d06760016d6%2C576455e56970 2d2f2f0013a3%2C5856d92069702d1cf10023a0) (washable polyester; filtration unrated) (currently in stock online, as well)
- filters for the RZ

I'd recommend checking your local store, or ordering online.

Matt