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Tony Wilkins
05-22-2020, 12:04 PM
My son has become interested in blacksmithing (thanks to Forged in Fire). As I set aside space for him in my new shop, is there anything I should keep in mind?

Mike Henderson
05-22-2020, 12:24 PM
The big thing I'd consider is the chance of fire. Woodworking generates a lot of combustible products (dust, scrap). I'd have to think carefully about the layout to make sure the area is safe.

Mike

Jim Koepke
05-22-2020, 1:31 PM
Do you have an open space in the yard where you can build a smithing shelter?

Like Mike, my biggest worry is the chance of fire.

Maybe get some fire extinguishers or install a fire suppression system

jtk

Tom M King
05-22-2020, 7:12 PM
It makes a big mess. I only do it outside.

Chris Fournier
05-23-2020, 10:57 AM
It is a filthy pursuit and would surely contaminate your woodworking area. If his fuel source is gas it's not as sooty but it is very dirty. A am lucky enough to have access to an outdoor set up when the mood comes over me. Perhaps there is a co-operative somewhere near you that your son could join?

Jim Matthews
05-23-2020, 12:06 PM
The smell and noise are considerable.

Is the shop detached from your main house?

Tony Wilkins
05-23-2020, 1:54 PM
Their is. We are trying to get a time to go visit it now that the plague is lifting.

Tony Wilkins
05-23-2020, 1:55 PM
The smell and noise are considerable.

Is the shop detached from your main house?

Yes it is.

Jim Matthews
05-23-2020, 3:18 PM
Then your fire risk is contained.
Sharing shop time with your son is worthwhile.

Send us pics of your joint projects!

Jim Hoti
05-23-2020, 3:36 PM
Have seen several woodworking/blacksmith set ups. Sparks are on the major concerns. What I have seen is the blacksmith area set up with a noncombustible floor - gravel, cement, brick, etc. Hammering at the anvil is one of the major sources of sparks, along with grinding. A piece of non-combustible material can be set up between the anvil and the rest of the shop when hammering to keep hot metal close at hand. The forge, if coal, won't be too sparky if the chimney and draft is set up properly. If using charcoal, it's really sparky -definitely better outside. Grinding can be done outside, but if done inside, where the sparks go is driven mainly by the grinder, so planning ahead can mitigate issues. Keep a good quench bucket handy as well as fire extinguishers located at several places to ensure one is close at hand.

Tony Wilkins
05-23-2020, 6:00 PM
Thanks for all the suggestions. I’ll see what can go outside but it sounds like the biggest thing is good and plentiful fire extinguishers.

Bill St Amant
05-23-2020, 9:55 PM
wood and blacksmithing don't mix -- until they need wood handles for the all the tools they make. light level in a blacksmith shop should be the same whenever forging so that the smith can more reliably tell the temperature of the metal when it comes out of the fire. less light is better. also forgewelding creates crazy sparks and flying molten metal bits. both of these factors point to a separate location. he could get by with a 100 SF 3 wall shed with a small propane forge, anvil and post vice. [or just store the equipment by the door and hand-truck everything outside to a patio space.]

michael dilday
05-23-2020, 11:24 PM
I am in the same boat. My son-in-law is into smithing too. He does all his forging and stuff outside but the grinding and sanding is done in the wood shop. It is a bad combo.

john zulu
05-24-2020, 10:30 AM
It is like welding next to your work bench. Not a good combo. Metal rust flying around is a bad thing.

John K Jordan
05-24-2020, 10:46 AM
Thanks for all the suggestions. I’ll see what can go outside but it sounds like the biggest thing is good and plentiful fire extinguishers.

Maybe build a small lean-to on the side of the shop?

Perhaps evident by the blacksmithing books in my library that's something I've wanted to do forever. Some day...
I do save old pieces true wrought iron for future heating and hammering, perhaps by someone other then me! Easy to identify with a grinder.

JKJ

Chris Fournier
05-24-2020, 11:14 AM
Their is. We are trying to get a time to go visit it now that the plague is lifting.

Ah yes the plague! Perfect time to come out of hiding and pick up a trade that the world will need to rebuild - a Blacksmith! Wait, that was another plague I think. It is a fun craft and your son can make useful tools for you as a woodworker!

steven c newman
05-24-2020, 11:23 AM
And....IF there can be a divider wall between the two shops.....(wipe yer feet! )....they can co-habitat in the same building....Maybe build a brick chimney into the wall farthest from the woodshop to house the forge.

Just think of all the iron tools he can make for your woodshop.....in the steels of your choice.