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Dave Lehnert
03-20-2020, 8:42 PM
Starting to look at a new gas garden tiller.
I now use a front tine tiller Rinks store brand unit purchased by my Dad in 1976 or 1977. Still use it today.

Looking at a rear tine. What do you recommend reverse or forward spin tines?

This is on my radar because of price. Can be had on sale for $499
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Powermate-18-in-196cc-Gas-4-Cycle-Rear-Tine-Tiller-PRTT196E/203714672

Are the new Troy bilt units any good?

Bruce Wrenn
03-20-2020, 9:16 PM
Starting to look at a new gas garden tiller.
I now use a front tine tiller Rinks store brand unit purchased by my Dad in 1976 or 1977. Still use it today.

Looking at a rear tine. What do you recommend reverse or forward spin tines?

This is on my radar because of price. Can be had on sale for $499
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Powermate-18-in-196cc-Gas-4-Cycle-Rear-Tine-Tiller-PRTT196E/203714672

Are the new Troy bilt units any good?I can't comment on the new Troy Bilts, but I have owned three of the older ones. It's a long story as to how I wound up with three. Ordered one new (7.0 HP PTO Horse,) friend was down sizing and made me a sweet deal on his Pony. Another friend used my Horse and told me to find her a used one, and she would pay me for it. Found one, bought it, and got home, only to find a message telling me not to buy her one as she resigned her job of 23 years that day. So I was proud owner of three (Two Horse models, and a Pony .) Sent newest Horse to FIL for use in the mountains at their summer home, and used older Horse here. Seldom used the Pony, and last year gave to my DIL. On the newer Horse, last year I replaced the carburetor, drive belt (first time in 33 years,) and patched a rust thru on gas tank. A few years back, added tube to tires. Based upon my experience, I would look at CL for a "Used" Horse model. Currently on Cincinatti CL is a TroyBilt Horse with brush guard for $500, OBO. It has brush guard which is a big PLUS Phone # 513-941-0266. Enter search word "tiller" to find ad. Based upon price and my experience, if I was closer and needed a tiller, I would be on it like a duck on a June Bug.

Bill Dufour
03-20-2020, 10:40 PM
Troy built units are not anything special anymore. They went out of business and someone bought the name. they just slap a name tag on a existing model and add 50% to the price.
Bil lD

On Edit: MTD makes them and more then 50% of all private label mowers/tillers.

Bruce Wrenn
03-20-2020, 10:47 PM
Troy built units are not anything special anymore. They went out of business and someone bought the name. they just slap a name tag on a existing model and add 50% to the price.
Bil lD

On Edit: MTD makes them and more then 50% of all private label mowers/tillers.The MTD made TroyBilt front tine tillers are junk at best. Transmission case is crimped together, so nothing can be fixed. For front tine, give me a Merry (own two) any day.

Lee Schierer
03-21-2020, 8:26 AM
I would advise looking for an older used Troy Bilt tiller. They are pretty bulletproof. I have owned a 7 HP Horse for over 40 years and it is still in good shape. Parts are available if repairs are needed.

Don Coffman
03-21-2020, 9:44 AM
I use a Cub Cadet RT65. I just replaced the engine after dropping the intake valve, but I really like the tiller. I was really surprised to find a "new" replacement Honda engine on the internet for ~$200. I also recommend watching FB Marketplace or similar for a used machine.

Steve Demuth
03-21-2020, 11:22 AM
About $5000 will get you a BCS with 13HP Honda engine and 30" tiller. With normal care, it'll outlive you and your kids.

Clark Hussey
03-21-2020, 11:30 AM
TroyBilt prior to 2000 were made by Gardenway. Their testing was to hire a bunch of college kids to run the tillers every day over the summer until they failed. The ones that broke were taken and pulled apart to see why they failed.. Another great company put out of business by greed.

George Bokros
03-21-2020, 12:46 PM
About $5000 will get you a BCS with 13HP Honda engine and 30" tiller. With normal care, it'll outlive you and your kids.

I have a smaller BCS about $2500, and is fantastic.

Bruce Wrenn
03-21-2020, 7:50 PM
I use a Cub Cadet RT65. I just replaced the engine after dropping the intake valve, but I really like the tiller. I was really surprised to find a "new" replacement Honda engine on the internet for ~$200. I also recommend watching FB Marketplace or similar for a used machine.


The HF $99.99 (on Sale) engine works well.

Joe Mioux
03-21-2020, 9:16 PM
I own a BCS tiller and love iy

https://www.bcsamerica.com

michael langman
03-22-2020, 9:57 AM
I bought an old Pony years ago and still runs and works well. Have to add lead substitute to the gas as the engine was designed that way way back when.

When breaking virgin soil with a lot of stone like where I live, it pays to rent a big troybuilt or similar for the first few years. Then go out and get an older pony model. It will fit through the rows better and is a little more nimble.

Tom M King
03-22-2020, 10:26 AM
We have an 8hp Troybilt Horse, with front bumper, that was new in 1979. It hasn't been used in years, never been used to amount to much, needs the leather washers, and maybe a new set of tines. Make offer, and come get it. Has been stored in a closed building, and probably will still start.

Bruce Wrenn
03-22-2020, 11:29 AM
We have an 8hp Troybilt Horse, with front bumper, that was new in 1979. It hasn't been used in years, never been used to amount to much, needs the leather washers, and maybe a new set of tines. Make offer, and come get it. Has been stored in a closed building, and probably will still start.For tines, I recommend "Clean Kutter'. I buy their Duro hard faced tines. Been a customer so long, that in early days, would call and order a set, which would come UPS, with a bill the following week via USPS. Now it's we need your CC number. Times sure have changed.

jim sauterer
03-22-2020, 5:41 PM
I bought a 8 hp horse Troybilt in 1986 I think all I have done is rebuilt the carb twice and I did replace tines.starts up all the time on 2or 3 pulls.

Mike Malott
03-22-2020, 8:03 PM
Dave,

Cincinnati CL currently has two Troy Built tillers listed by a gent in up in Lebanon, Ohio.

I bought one of his rebuilt (1980 vintage as I recall) Troy Built tillers 3-4 years ago... very satisfied with the unit and his work.

The only issue I've found is that the Timken bearings on either end of the driveshaft were a bit loose and developed a "clunk."

I added shims to reset the bearing preload and all is well.

Mike

Bill Dufour
03-22-2020, 8:47 PM
I have a Gravley two wheel tractor unit. Get the older ones with a cast iron engine. An aluminum engine is too light to balance it correctly. Make sure it is electric start or buy a electric start conversion. Mine is rated 7.5 hp, that engine got replaced by 12-14 HP aluminum engines.
They were designed so homeowners could plant victory gardens for the war effort. The great war ended right before they came onto the market. All cast iron, hard to break anything, all kinds of attachments can be bought. A BCS is a light weight knockoff.
Bil lD

Tom Bender
03-24-2020, 7:53 AM
You would have to till a few acres to justify one of these.

George Bokros
03-24-2020, 10:26 AM
You would have to till a few acres to justify one of these.

Tom justify one of what, a tiller? I garden two plots each 14 ft X 28 ft, without a tiller I would not be able to garden more than a 10 X 1 plot.

Jerome Stanek
03-25-2020, 9:28 AM
Back when I was in high school my dad bought an Agria tiller 16 HP diesel 40 inch wide. Wish I had bought it at the auction but my sister wanted it. It is over 55 years old and still going strong

Tom M King
03-25-2020, 9:58 AM
We went to raised beds, years ago, and haven't needed a tiller since.

Steve Fish
03-25-2020, 12:19 PM
I have a Gravley two wheel tractor unit. Get the older ones with a cast iron engine. An aluminum engine is too light to balance it correctly. Make sure it is electric start or buy a electric start conversion. Mine is rated 7.5 hp, that engine got replaced by 12-14 HP aluminum engines.
They were designed so homeowners could plant victory gardens for the war effort. The great war ended right before they came onto the market. All cast iron, hard to break anything, all kinds of attachments can be bought. A BCS is a light weight knockoff.
Bil lD
keep the oils clean and they (gravelys) truly last decades. I have 3 different versions with a bunch of attachments mothballed at my mother’s place. Oldest one is a convertible from the sixties. The garden plow in low gear low range can do some fantastic work.

Ken Combs
03-25-2020, 9:28 PM
keep the oils clean and they (gravelys) truly last decades. I have 3 different versions with a bunch of attachments mothballed at my mother’s place. Oldest one is a convertible from the sixties. The garden plow in low gear low range can do some fantastic work.


Yep, that rotary plow takes a garden from unused to ready for planting in one step. But, if you are breaking new soil, look out for tree roots! Voice of experience, that thing will wrap up a big root, and follow it to the stump faster than you would believe.