Reversed Fritz and Franz Jig

[Derek Cohen]

As some know, my table saw is a Hammer K3 with a 49" slider. This has a crosscut fence at the foot of the slider, and no outrigger down the other end. Inspired by the Fritz and Frans jig, I built a fence at the end of the slider to emulate the outrigger, which forms the basis of the way the F&F is used traditionally ...

https://i.postimg.cc/DfH68GHg/2a.jpg

I must admit that I have had mixed feelings about my experience of the F&F to date. It is an effort to set up the end section. It should not be so. And if I want to use the full length of the slider, the crosscut fence needs to be removed.

It occurred to me that I have been doing this all wrong. This is not how my K3 works. This K3 is centred on the crosscut fence, while those with longer sliders centre on a crosscut fence at the other end. So I decided to turn the F&F around.

A few weeks ago I posted adding a UHMW zero clearance section to the end of the crosscut fence ....

https://i.postimg.cc/0NywP8Cb/FF1a.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/0yfwT6DT/FF2a.jpg

Today I made the sliding end ...

https://i.postimg.cc/rpZtpvhg/FF3a.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/63744YgK/FF4a.jpg

The black UHMW block under the Incra hold down is just a spacer.

The rear handle twists to tighten and lock it down (after it is pushed into the workpiece), creating a solid stop/crosscut fence.

The track comes from Felder ...

https://i.postimg.cc/RCHnMpwQ/FF5a.jpg

The Incra holddown further stabilises a workpiece ...

https://i.postimg.cc/cHVgRfGn/FF6a.jpg

Everything is now happening at the foot of the slider ...

https://i.postimg.cc/jdYnC6XV/FF7a.jpg

The little spacer is for narrow boards ...

https://i.postimg.cc/cCwKX6d5/FF8a.jpg

Minus the Incra ...

https://i.postimg.cc/gkyXhwSx/FF9a.jpg

So far this is just experimental. I will post my experiences later on. For those with similar sliders to mine, this is a quicker and easier F&F jig than the traditional one.

Regards from Perth

Derek

[Rod Sheridan]

Hi Derek, I have the same sliding table as you on a B3, with both a crosscut fence and an outrigger with fence.

I use my F&F with the fixed end against the edging shoe normally, I’ll try it out just using the outrigger fence as the fixed F&F.......Regards, Rod

[Derek Cohen]

Rod, I will be interested to hear your experience. Note that my sliding section can be clamped to the slider so that it does not move when you push on it.

Regards from Perth

Derek

[Jim Becker]

I guess what I'm not getting here is the lack of measurement on the "Far End" side here. No issue for cleaning that first edge, but what about parallel rips? (That's what I primarily use my F&F for on my slider)

[Derek Cohen]

Jim, how do you do a parallel rip?

Regards from Perth

Derek

[Eduard Nemirovsky]

I mostly use my F@F jig for parallel cut and for small parts. My rear part stay against fence and front part sliding. Both parts has a fence with tape and adjustable stops, like Incra from Derek post. My biggest dislike of this - needs to raise blade with guard high enough for end of the jig fence to be able slide along saw blade or just remove the guard and loosing above table dust collection ability.

Ed.

[Jim Becker]

Jim, how do you do a parallel rip?

Regards from Perth

Derek

Just like you show in your very first photo...between the two pieces of the F&F with the scales set the same.