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Derek Cohen
02-23-2020, 11:32 AM
It's time for the drawers. Once again there is a challenge. The design calls for drawer fronts that stretch across the front without being broken by drawer dividers. In other words, "lipped drawers".


There are two ways to do this. The easy way is to used "planted fronts", that is, attached fronts to the front of a box ...


https://i.postimg.cc/RCYzdgw4/lipped-drawer_5F00_lead1.jpg


The hard way is to make the drawer front a single piece. This requires rebating the drawer front and forming a half blind dovetail in the side of the rebate. Courtesy of Christian Becksvoort ...


https://i.postimg.cc/m2FW57SM/Lipped-dovetail2.jpg


I've chosen the high road (sigh).


Today I spent my time preparing for three drawers. Why three and not two, as in the original design? Simply because I can build them narrower, and this will make them less likely to rack. They'll end up somewhere around 280mm wide and 290mm deep. I anticipated that 375mm wide and 290mm deep would be a disaster waiting to happen. The only way drawers that dimension could work is on runners, which I do not do.


The wood for the drawer front is more Fiddleback Jarrah (by request), while the remainder of the drawer is quarter sawn Tasmanian Oak (which is actually a Eucalyptus, and is quite unstable unless quarter sawn. I keep a stock for drawers). It is a lot like US White Oak in appearance and hardness.


I have a bunch of narrower boards, which I re-sawed to make 7mm thick drawer sides, and glued together two to get the height needed ...


https://i.postimg.cc/tRDTcLnr/2a.jpg


No clamps, just blue painter's tape, which is stretched across. It pulls the edges together.


https://i.postimg.cc/XvFqDq9F/1a.jpg


This is enough for 4 drawer sides (one spare) ...


https://i.postimg.cc/9Mh032Bk/3a.jpg


The drawer bottoms will be 1/4" (6.35mm) thick ..... I cannot go metric here as my plough blade is imperial :) .... this is re-sawn from a wide board, which saves some effort as only two boards are needed for the bottoms (the grain runs across the drawer) ...


https://i.postimg.cc/50gxZCyH/13a.jpg


Same trick with the blue tape, and cauls are also added to keep it flat. This will be sawn up at the time it is needed, and the panel will remain in the cauls until thn.


https://i.postimg.cc/2jHkGhgM/14a.jpg


The narrow drawer sides necessitate using drawer slips, which is a strip added to the sides with a groove for the drawer bottom. This also adds extra width as a runner.


The slips are made with a plough plane. In this case, I used both a Veritas Small Plow (to plough the groove) and the Veritas Combination Plow (to plough a bead - the bead lies at the join of the slip and drawer bottom). Setting up both save time switching set ups back and forth, and once begun, making these slips was a quick process ...


First plough the bead ...


https://i.postimg.cc/x8d0Y1N6/15a.jpg


A tip on how to avoid over-planing the bead. This comes from David Charlesworth. Scribble pencil along the top of the bead, and when it is gone, the bead is complete ...


https://i.postimg.cc/j5txgXx0/16a.jpg


Now flip the board around to plane the groove ...


The first line is where the groove begins, which is 3mm below the bead. There will follow a 1/4" groove, and there will be 4mm below this to support the groove/drawer bottom. This makes the slip a smidgeon over 12mm high. It is 10mm deep, which allows for a 5mm deep groove.


https://i.postimg.cc/dtLqxDY1/17a.jpg


As mentioned, once set up, no further marking is necessary. Just plane ...


https://i.postimg.cc/xTh0DYfP/18a.jpg


https://i.postimg.cc/VktzzT5P/19a.jpg


... and then rip off the slip on the table saw.


https://i.postimg.cc/VNcmvRbr/20a.jpg

Derek Cohen
02-23-2020, 11:33 AM
This is a mock up: the bead at the top and the groove on the side ...


https://i.postimg.cc/pTWvYLCP/23a.jpg


I have a strategy to fit the drawer fronts, so that the edges align with each other. It is all about accurate marking out. This will hinge on getting the opening exact, and transferring the respective measurements to their drawer fronts.


First order of the day was to fit (what will become) drawer backs to the front between the drawer dividers. This is what the result looked like ...


https://i.postimg.cc/rFPpVxJx/4a.jpg


The table saw can cross cut really close, but only a shooting board will get the final dimension ...


https://i.postimg.cc/m2DDW8QT/5a.jpg


https://i.postimg.cc/Znf5ydhk/6a.jpg


On to the all-important drawer fronts!


I was heartened that all the verticals were indeed vertical still ... well, except for one (if you look carefully, you will see light in the top half) ...


https://i.postimg.cc/3NrwRZVC/7a.jpg


This meant a slight adjustment of that side .. again a job for the shooting board.


Set one, mark the angle with a small sliding bevel ...


https://i.postimg.cc/bw4dTkSp/8a.jpg


... transfer this to the side of the board, and head for the shooting board. As the side is no longer square, a shim is used to create the needed angle ...


https://i.postimg.cc/6p4pyqjS/9a.jpg


A good result ...


https://i.postimg.cc/g09kRp10/10a.jpg


This is the join I need to manage ...


https://i.postimg.cc/3wgrF6HF/11a.jpg


These are the fronts fitted in sequence ...


https://i.postimg.cc/7hQqLrgw/12a.jpg


And here were are now, waiting for the next build day ...


https://i.postimg.cc/bvH8ttQ6/21a.jpg


Regards from Perth


Derek

Jim Koepke
02-23-2020, 1:12 PM
Oooh the suspense…

Derek, have you ever tried making a third kerf in you waste for half blind dovetails?

For me it seems to make it easier when removing the waste.

jtk

James Pallas
02-23-2020, 3:20 PM
Looking very good Derek. Having done dovetails on a rabbet many times I have found some things helpful. I do pins first. When marking out the tails I put a spacer on the rabbet, I use a metal rule for a spacer and mark the tails. This keeps you from having to work level with the rabbet when excavating the sockets with a chisel or a router. It also gives you a little room when cleaning up the tails with a shoulder plane or the like. Helps to keep a clean rabbet.

Christopher Charles
02-24-2020, 11:48 AM
Crisp fit of the draw fronts--that must be a relief.

Thanks for the details and description of the drawer slips. One question-what is your rationale for adding the bead rather than something like a cove that would blend the drawer bottom to the side? While the bead is attractive, it seems to me the bead would be a lint collector?

Best,
Chris

Derek Cohen
02-24-2020, 6:47 PM
The bead could become a lint collector, Charles. I guess it depends what one puts inside drawers in a hall table. Easy enough to vacuum out, if so.

I will test them for how they look when the time comes. It occurred to me latr why I usually scrape the bead ... because the arris of the scraper leaves a much narrower quirk, which is a lot nicer ....

https://i.postimg.cc/Jhq56ZSD/6-EE58-BFB-9-D71-4-B77-B856-D149123-FA2-B5.png

https://i.postimg.cc/s2yJ4wHC/2-FFBE7-DE-5-C4-E-432-F-9-AE1-19-C76706-F4-BC.png

https://i.postimg.cc/zBGS931d/CADC4-B91-CC1-C-4546-A94-F-C87-EF8-EDB698.png

Regards from Perth

Derek

Christopher Charles
02-25-2020, 11:37 AM
Thanks Derek, the bead is a nice detail. Your post also reminds me that the slips increase the wear surface of the drawer.

Best,
Chris

glenn bradley
02-25-2020, 1:00 PM
+1 on the slip detail; very nice touch.

Derek Cohen
02-25-2020, 6:59 PM
Oooh the suspense…

Derek, have you ever tried making a third kerf in you waste for half blind dovetails?

For me it seems to make it easier when removing the waste.

jtk

My apology for not replying earlier, Jim.

A third kerf is generally used in the tail. In my case, these are usually quite slim, so little waste to remove if they were chopped out. I use a fretsaw to remove all waste down to 1mm from the baseline. So the answer is ‘no’.

One could use a third kerf in the pin, but that does not help much here. Removing waste from the pin is generally easy enough with chisels ... but if you have several drawersto do, then a powered router makes for both speed and accuracy.

Regards from Perth

Derek