Kev Williams
01-26-2020, 10:49 PM
I don't sell the stuff, I just keep them in business, and to be honest, I've been getting very weary of the dark gray results I've been getting for a couple of years now with the LMM-6000 I've been using. And I'm only able to get 'dark' gray with 2 of my 4 machines. I have a pile of 'bankrupt' SS plates I made several years ago, I used a couple of them awhile back to test some LMM-14 along side the 6000 I use, AND I was testing 2 machines: the "TESTING" engraving was done with my LS-100 machine, my 900 did the 'gravograph' line...
These are 2 different plates, I flipped them end over end between the 2 plates to equalize the lighting angles...
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First- my 900 engraves darker than the 100, most apparent with the LMM6000.
The LMM14, the 100 is a bit darker but the 900 is lighter, they're almost equal-
-which is worse in my opinion and why I still use the 6000.
But the MVW plates are BLACK! They were done with my old 25w Universal. And my 900 made them just as black.
Every since they changed the formula, I can only cut it half as much as before, I used go nearly 4:1 DNA, now any more than 2:1 and it's too lean. And the new version has never been as black, and seems to be getting worse instead of better. FWIW, the GCC Explorer does just as black as my 900. The Triumph engraves lighter, much like the 100. I have four machines and can only Cermark with 2 of them. But the problem with my LS-100 is the lens; I swapped in the 900's lens tube once and the mark was every bit as dark as the 900... I bought a couple of ebay lenses, to no avail. But I just now bought a II-VI lens off ebay, hoping it'll do the trick. Just wondering if these cheap II-VI's are just knock-offs like the counterfeit 5200 chillers, or the real deal... Guess I'll find out!
So, here's what I found about the new Cermark, I just hope it's half as better as they say it is. Important to ME I've highlighted in Red.
New CerMark Ultra The CerMark Research & Development team is pleased to announce the approaching release of a new CerMark coating. This product should be available for sale around the end of February.
This new coating is formulated to work on all typical laser markable hard surfaces such as metals, glass, ceramics (glazed or unglazed), stone, brick (glazed & unglazed), slate and more. This formula is not intended for painted items, wood or plastics.
The new laser marking material will raise the bar considerably for laser bonding speed, versatility, quality and durability.
Fastest marking speed possible
Preliminary testing shows many customers should be able to mark stainless steel with their laser system set at 100% marking speed with only needing as little as 40 watts of CO2 power. This coating will also create deep black marks at a very wide range of laser power and speed settings.
Much improved glass marking
There is a much greater ease of glass marking at a wider range of settings and much less coating thickness will be required.
Same application/handling qualities as CerMark LMM-6000
The liquid version can still be thinned with alcohol based liquids to allow for fast drying time. The dilution ratios will remain the same as LMM-6000 and LMM-14, 1:1 for spraying and 2:1 for brush on applications. Once dry it will not rub off on your fingers while handling it. This will allow you to coat items and box or stack them for marking at a later date.
No hard settling
Formulated to eliminate clumping in liquid form and spray cans which allows for easy mixing before use.
Improved spray can design
A new specially designed valve system will be introduced as part of the new coating spray can allowing for better performance and eliminating the need to store can upside down.
Will not stain (tarnish) sensitive metals
Will not stain or tarnish sensitive metals such as brass, copper, and some other forms of steel.
The new CerMark product should be available Q1 of 2020 in both aerosol & liquid providing a variety of application methods for our customers.
These are 2 different plates, I flipped them end over end between the 2 plates to equalize the lighting angles...
424617 424619
First- my 900 engraves darker than the 100, most apparent with the LMM6000.
The LMM14, the 100 is a bit darker but the 900 is lighter, they're almost equal-
-which is worse in my opinion and why I still use the 6000.
But the MVW plates are BLACK! They were done with my old 25w Universal. And my 900 made them just as black.
Every since they changed the formula, I can only cut it half as much as before, I used go nearly 4:1 DNA, now any more than 2:1 and it's too lean. And the new version has never been as black, and seems to be getting worse instead of better. FWIW, the GCC Explorer does just as black as my 900. The Triumph engraves lighter, much like the 100. I have four machines and can only Cermark with 2 of them. But the problem with my LS-100 is the lens; I swapped in the 900's lens tube once and the mark was every bit as dark as the 900... I bought a couple of ebay lenses, to no avail. But I just now bought a II-VI lens off ebay, hoping it'll do the trick. Just wondering if these cheap II-VI's are just knock-offs like the counterfeit 5200 chillers, or the real deal... Guess I'll find out!
So, here's what I found about the new Cermark, I just hope it's half as better as they say it is. Important to ME I've highlighted in Red.
New CerMark Ultra The CerMark Research & Development team is pleased to announce the approaching release of a new CerMark coating. This product should be available for sale around the end of February.
This new coating is formulated to work on all typical laser markable hard surfaces such as metals, glass, ceramics (glazed or unglazed), stone, brick (glazed & unglazed), slate and more. This formula is not intended for painted items, wood or plastics.
The new laser marking material will raise the bar considerably for laser bonding speed, versatility, quality and durability.
Fastest marking speed possible
Preliminary testing shows many customers should be able to mark stainless steel with their laser system set at 100% marking speed with only needing as little as 40 watts of CO2 power. This coating will also create deep black marks at a very wide range of laser power and speed settings.
Much improved glass marking
There is a much greater ease of glass marking at a wider range of settings and much less coating thickness will be required.
Same application/handling qualities as CerMark LMM-6000
The liquid version can still be thinned with alcohol based liquids to allow for fast drying time. The dilution ratios will remain the same as LMM-6000 and LMM-14, 1:1 for spraying and 2:1 for brush on applications. Once dry it will not rub off on your fingers while handling it. This will allow you to coat items and box or stack them for marking at a later date.
No hard settling
Formulated to eliminate clumping in liquid form and spray cans which allows for easy mixing before use.
Improved spray can design
A new specially designed valve system will be introduced as part of the new coating spray can allowing for better performance and eliminating the need to store can upside down.
Will not stain (tarnish) sensitive metals
Will not stain or tarnish sensitive metals such as brass, copper, and some other forms of steel.
The new CerMark product should be available Q1 of 2020 in both aerosol & liquid providing a variety of application methods for our customers.