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JohnM Martin
01-02-2020, 9:53 AM
Last summer I had the good fortune of coming across a maple log that spring storms had taken (mostly) down. Maple is somewhat scarce here in central Oklahoma so I jumped at the chance for a free log. After finally getting it cut at the sawmill, it turns out that it is actually spalted maple... a real surprise. Now, the question I have is... what should I do with it? I have about 8 rough sawn 5/4 boards that are 12" wide and 7ft long. In my mind, spalted maple lends itself as being more of an accent wood rather than something one would use for an entire piece. I have been thinking about building a Krenov Cabinet with a walnut base and using the maple for the cabinet. Any other ideas or suggestions? Anything I should be aware of with this wood? I still have some time to ponder it, it is currently stacked and stickered air drying.

Ted Calver
01-02-2020, 11:34 AM
You have the right idea to use it for accent pieces. Makes great box tops too.

Andrew Seemann
01-02-2020, 12:00 PM
Word of caution, that lovely spalting is caused by fungi, which are not good to breathe. Make sure you use a mask when working with it, and don't let its sawdust and sanding dust accumulate in the shop. I normally don't work it for that reason, as I am particularly sensitive to it.

On a practical note, accents are a good use for it. Sometimes there can be strength and stability issues in larger pieces depending on the amount of decay in the board.

David Eisenhauer
01-02-2020, 2:25 PM
Looks nice when used for the panels in a frame and panel object.

Jim Koepke
01-02-2020, 2:37 PM
Looks nice when used for the panels in a frame and panel object.

You are on the right track of using it for accents. It could make a great front for drawers. The continuation of the grain across the drawers or if there are a couple tiers of drawers book matched pieces might look great. With 12" wide boards that could be quite a section of drawers.

My experience with spalted wood was mostly using it as an accent on a keepsake box made for my granddaughter:

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The panel is spalted alder and the box is made of alder.

jtk

Rob Luter
01-02-2020, 2:45 PM
I've used spalted maple for a couple small projects.

Here's a box that turned out nice.

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And a footstool where the spalting is almost too much:

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John K Jordan
01-02-2020, 4:01 PM
Last summer I had the good fortune of coming across a maple log that spring storms had taken (mostly) down. Maple is somewhat scarce here in central Oklahoma so I jumped at the chance for a free log. After finally getting it cut at the sawmill, it turns out that it is actually spalted maple... a real surprise. Now, the question I have is... what should I do with it? I have about 8 rough sawn 5/4 boards that are 12" wide and 7ft long. In my mind, spalted maple lends itself as being more of an accent wood rather than something one would use for an entire piece. I have been thinking about building a Krenov Cabinet with a walnut base and using the maple for the cabinet. Any other ideas or suggestions? Anything I should be aware of with this wood? I still have some time to ponder it, it is currently stacked and stickered air drying.

Spalted wood is highly prized by woodturners, but usually in pieces thicker than 5/4. However, some use such thicknesses for plates, thin platters, hand mirrors, and spindle turning.

One caution with wood that was down for a while (besides the possible rot in places) is infestation with powder post beetles. I got some maple in this condition recently and cut some up into turning blanks and put them in a tub overnight. The next day there were dozens of PPBs in the bottom of the tub, some still alive. Apparently, exposing fresh edges interrupted the paths of some beetles so they exited early. I took all the wood outside. Beetles can stay in the wood for years before they exit, look for mates, then search for more wood to lay their eggs. Fortunately 5/4 boards provide more opportunity for early exits and make them easier to spot. Some types will infest dry hardwoods inclucing furniture, some softwoods like framing in the house, some wet woods. Maybe watch for hole and/or frass in your stack.

I was once cutting maple in front of my garage and watched a bunch of insects fly towards me from the woods and land on the maple end grain and start to dig in. I assume the were attracted by the strong smell of the freshly cut wood.

JKJ

Mike Allen1010
01-02-2020, 8:03 PM
Congratulations on the find! Finding Spalted Maple at a commercial lumberyard is rare as hen's teeth and super expensive if available.

I agree with the suggestions is Spalted Maple's excellent use an accent wood in things like the panel and frame and panel doors were drawer fronts etc. That's the kind of treasure I would salt away in the shop and use sparingly as long as it lasts. Would love to see some pictures of your work with this cool wood!

Best, Mike

Don Coffman
01-03-2020, 10:22 AM
Love to work in maple, especially spalted its beautiful. We have it surface occasionally, plus having friends with local "hobby" bandsaw mills is a plus. A couple recent projects:

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Steve Altman
01-03-2020, 11:30 AM
I use spalted wood quite a bit. All the advice here is spot on. I would only add three things:

If the wood you have is "blackline" spalt you have to take care when you're cleaning up the surface. The blacklines are a very fine, black dust which will, if you sand it, get in all the pores of the wood (spalts are usually quite porous). The wood will become very dirty looking and you really can't do much about it, except plane down a little bit more. If you run into this problem - you'll know it - don't sand at all, just plane. You can scrape if you're very careful and your scraper is very sharp. Spalt sort of scrapes like pine, meaning not much. Planing is much better. And you could seal the surface first and then sand, but the surface has to be really sealed up well.

Spalts can be punky. Sometimes it's helpful to infuse them with cyanoacrylate or something like PolyAll 2000.

Spalts, being so porous, can absorb a lot of liquid, and that turns the wood quite a bit darker. If you don't like this you might try bleaching first, before a clear finish. You have to be careful with this - it's easy to bleach spalted maple bone white and that doesn't look good at all. (DAMHIKT)

PS: If you feel like selling some your wood, let me know.

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Rob Luter
01-03-2020, 12:29 PM
Really nice work Steve. Where do you source such nice figured wood?

Jim Koepke
01-03-2020, 12:51 PM
Agree with Rob, the work is spectacular.

jtk

Steve Altman
01-03-2020, 1:40 PM
Really nice work Steve. Where do you source such nice figured wood?

I've been collecting spalted lumber for the last 30 years. I've bought stuff on Ebay, Hearne Hardwoods, Groff & Groff, NW Timber, all the usual suspects.

John K Jordan
01-03-2020, 2:28 PM
I've been collecting spalted lumber for the last 30 years. I've bought stuff on Ebay, Hearne Hardwoods, Groff & Groff, NW Timber, all the usual suspects.

I have been also, mostly turning blanks but some lumber but I can't rememer buying any. Most of mine I saw myself from trees that have been down a while. Just this week I found nicely spalted persimmon log sections which were on the ground since last summer. (For anyone not familiar with persimmon it's in the Ebony family and has many of the same properties except for color.) I once dug up an old dogwood stump and found some incredible spalting, my first with dogwood. There are threads here about how to create spalted wood.

Some spalted hackberry I cut recently and a few more blocks from a couple of years ago - I have somehow accumulated a lot more now including some spalted sugar maple and red maple. So sad. :)

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Some good info from Charles Richards:
http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?250947-Spalted-Liquid-Amber&p=2648072#post2648072
and
https://sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?272601-Part-time-lurker-finally-posting-some-PICS&p=2906760#post2906760

These threads, like many, diverge wildly but there is a lot of spalting information there.

For some fascinating reading, check out the book by Dr Spalt (Sari Robinson): https://www.amazon.com/Spalted-Wood-History-Science-Material/dp/0764350382
Well worth the cost for hard-core wood freaks.

JKJ

Mike Manning
01-03-2020, 2:40 PM
Steve,
I think your boxes are quite simply fantastic! Wonderfully beautiful art objects!

Mike Allen1010
01-03-2020, 5:22 PM
Steve and Don thanks for sharing pics of your work- really beautiful!🙂

Rob Luter
01-03-2020, 5:54 PM
I've been collecting spalted lumber for the last 30 years. I've bought stuff on Ebay, Hearne Hardwoods, Groff & Groff, NW Timber, all the usual suspects.

Actually I meant the figured primary wood. I’ll check the sources you mentioned. I can’t get decent figured wood in my area. When it does pop up the purveyor seems to think it’s worth more than gold. Pro tip: it grows on trees.

Steve Altman
01-03-2020, 7:54 PM
To each of you that commented on my boxes, thank you very much. I appreciate it.


Actually I meant the figured primary wood. I’ll check the sources you mentioned. I can’t get decent figured wood in my area. When it does pop up the purveyor seems to think it’s worth more than gold. Pro tip: it grows on trees.

Sorry, I misunderstood.

I live in Northern NJ. Like, I guess, most people, I have two ways to buy hardwood - at a lumberyard that sells domestic hardwood and/or imported exotic woods, or, if only buying a little and shipping costs are not crazy, on the web.

For the former, Monteath Lumber (http://www.monteath.com/), Williard Brothers (http://www.willardbrothers.net/), Groff & Groff (http://www.groffslumber.com/), and Hearne Hardwoods (http://www.hearnehardwoods.com/) are within reasonable(?) driving distance. Alderfer Lumber (https://alderferlumber.com/) is a little further away, but the prices are great. I've heard very nice things about Irion Lumber.

For the latter, I usually use curlymaplewood.com (http://www.curlymaplewood.com/) for domestic "exotics" and Rare woods USA (http://www.rarewoodsusa.com/)or Gilmer Wood (http://www.gilmerwood.com/)for imported "exotics". RareWoods, USA is really the best place to buy pretty much any hardwood, domestic or exotic. It's an unbelievable place; you really have to see it in person to understand. Unfortunately (for me) they're quite a drive - they're in Mexico, Maine - which is a bit out of the way. They do sell online, but, though they try their best to have good photographs of a representative sample of the inventory, its an impossible task. Their inventory is just...ridiculous. And their prices are really good. If you ever find yourself in that area I'd heartily recommend a visit. You won't regret it.

JohnM Martin
01-03-2020, 11:05 PM
Thanks everyone for the pictures and advice. I have some good ideas... now I just have to wait for it to dry :)