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Brad Swanson
12-20-2019, 3:34 PM
Looking for vendor/maker recommendations for a right handed/single bevel kiradashi marking knife. Thank you.

Derek Cohen
12-21-2019, 12:14 PM
Brad, what price range are you expecting? $30 or $300?

https://hidatool.com/list/?q=kiridashi

Search eBay, but the spelling is “kiridashi”. Some very inexpensive but serviceable knives from about $30.

Tasai: http://japantool-iida.com/gem/2019/07/ganryu-knife-by-tasai.html. If you need to know the price, you cannot afford it.

The best range are here, but be prepared to wait: https://www.japan-tool.com/

Regards from Vienna

Derek

Tom Bussey
12-22-2019, 6:41 PM
I do not know about Kiridashi marking knives because I have never used one. But here is a couple of pictures of my A2 marking knife. it is either hand and I wouldn't use anything else. The tip is flame hardened with a torch and it is easy to sharpen. I love the double bevel marking knives and wouldn't switch for anything.

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Mike Henderson
12-22-2019, 8:09 PM
I bought some right hand and left hand single bevel marking knives from Japan Woodworker some years back. I think they're called carving knives on the web site. They were laminated and hollow backed. I use the 1/2 inch wide ones.

For double beveled knives you can purchase violin knives in all different widths. SouthWest Strings (https://www.swstrings.com/) is where I get them. They're less expensive than the Japanese knives.

Here are a couple of pictures. The first picture is of the knives in wooden sleeves that I made to protect the edges. The Japanese knives are not "regular" so the sleeve is fitted to each knife and I have to mark the knives so that I can get them back into the proper sleeve. The violin knives are regular so any one fits any sleeve made for them - so they're not marked.

The second picture shows two of the Japanese knives out of their sleeves - a right hand and a left hand. Note that the right hand has a red dot on the knife so I can tell the difference between the right and left hand knives. Also in the picture are two violin knives. All are about 1/2 inch although they're measured in mm.

Mike

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Jim Koepke
12-23-2019, 1:55 AM
The kiridashi knives in the links Derek posted do exhibit a beauty their users will come to appreciate, possibly to be reflected in their work. For many, this is enough to justify the cost.

For others, the beauty may be the simplicity of making their own:

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Here is the post on making them > https://sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?229968

jtk

Derek Cohen
12-23-2019, 2:03 AM
There are misunderstandings about handed knives. It is not necessary to have a specific handed blade.

I have many knives for marking. Knives for marking dovetails are small and thin-bladed. These are V-pointed for left- and right hand use.

https://i.postimg.cc/hjknVTXm/Marking-Knife2.jpg

Knives for general marking out are robust and have thicker and wider blades. The bevels on these are generally one-handed, and the bevel is wide. The width of the bevel makes it possible to use either right- or left handed ... simple use the bevel face as the blade back. Really quite easy.

https://i.postimg.cc/d07v4HSw/Kiridashi2-zpsva1v73vb.jpg

A favourite marking knife of mine is this simple Stanley knife (made popular by Paul Sellars). It can be used left-and right - just tilt to allow for the double bevel ...

https://i.postimg.cc/9fRd6mJV/DSC-0502.jpg

Regards from Perth

Derek

ken hatch
12-23-2019, 2:31 AM
There are misunderstandings about handed knives. It is not necessary to have a specific handed blade.

I have many knives for marking. Knives for marking dovetails are small and thin-bladed. These are V-pointed for left- and right hand use.



Knives for general marking out are robust and have thicker and wider blades. The bevels on these are generally one-handed, and the bevel is wide. The width of the bevel makes it possible to use either right- or left handed ... simple use the bevel face as the blade back. Really quite easy.



A favourite marking knife of mine is this simple Stanley knife (made popular by Paul Sellars). It can be used left-and right - just tilt to allow for the double bevel ...

https://i.postimg.cc/9fRd6mJV/DSC-0502.jpg

Regards from Perth

Derek

Derek,

I agree and they are so cheap I have 'em scattered around the shop so one is always at hand and I do not have to hunt for a marking knife when needed.

ken

steven c newman
12-23-2019, 2:52 AM
What I have been using...
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Easy to "sharpen"...just install a new blade...

Brad Swanson
12-25-2019, 10:32 PM
Thanks everyone for the suggestions. I found some interesting options on Etsy. Looking for a knife to help me mark for some kumiko projects.

Rob Luter
12-26-2019, 6:19 AM
My marking knives. A Veritas Striking Knife on top, a Czech Edge in the center, and a homebrew dovetail knife on the bottom made from a jigsaw blade and a scrap of rosewood. I use them right handed 99.99% of the time and like the looks of the Japanese single bevel designs. Perhaps I'll supplement my modest collection. I work in QSWO frequently and need something that's sturdy and super sharp to scribe a proper line.

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brian zawatsky
12-26-2019, 8:14 AM
Brad - check out Aframes Tokyo, they have some Yoshihide kiridashi in stock that are very affordable forge welded White 2 steel. https://www.aframestokyo.com/carpentry-cutlery.html

Derek - nice Damascus kiridashi. Who made it?

Derek Cohen
12-26-2019, 10:14 AM
Brian, this looks like the same - or very similar - seller: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Japanese-Shouzou-Damascus-kiridashi-knife-in-vary-size/160639476389?hash=item2566dbe2a5:m:mBV9gsPUOFpsfZq s3LwwRfg

I do not recall when I purchased mine. I suspected it was eBay, and so did a quick search there. You can get one either handed.

Regards from Vienna

Derek

https://i.postimg.cc/KYpysDjR/80-FBB9-CE-09-AE-4-BDB-A586-A241531759-C1.jpg

Tom Bussey
12-29-2019, 9:34 AM
Derek, you are a long way from home, what gives.

Derek Cohen
12-29-2019, 11:03 AM
Derek, you are a long way from home, what gives.

Hi Tom

... just searching for Santa :) ... see: https://sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?279121-Best-wishes-from

warm regards

Derek