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Jon Grider
11-13-2019, 7:15 PM
I took my 20 year old [unused thankfully] extinguishers to the local hazardous waste recycle department. They still showed green on the scale but somewhere I heard that if you tip them upside down and don't feel movement of the materials inside falling to the bottom, they need to be replaced.
I haven't kept up on any new developments in extinguishers so does anyone have advice on brand and/or type for my basement shop?

Steve Jenkins
11-13-2019, 7:30 PM
Too late now but when I had mine inspected annually if he didn’t feel the contents shift he would hold it upside down and tap the bottom with a Dead-blow hammer.

Zachary Hoyt
11-13-2019, 7:36 PM
If the top part is metal then you can take them to a fire equipment shop to be inspected and refilled, some of ours are quite old but our insurance company is happy as long as they are inspected and tagged annually. They have to do a hydraulic pressure test every so many years, but most years it's just a quick check. The ones with plastic tops are pretty much throwaway once the pressure reads low, from what I have been told.
Zach

Jerry Bruette
11-13-2019, 10:02 PM
Hate to say it Jon, but you probably threw away perfectly good fire extinguishers.

I work for a company that makes about 1,000,000 stored pressure extinguishers a year.

As long as your gauge is in the green and the "shell" isn't deformed, dented etc., it's okay if the chemical inside doesn't move when the unit is tipped upside down.

I wouldn't go thumping it with any type of hammer either. Our units are pressurized to about 190 p.s.i.. If the integrity of that unit were compromised for any reason you could end up with a big mess in your hands. I don't know of anyone that hits their compressor tank with any type of hammer for any reason and they're not usually holding 190 p.s.i.

As to new developments, I don't know of any for dry chemical extinguishers. We're building them the same way today as we did over 20 years ago.

I definitely wouldn't buy an extinguisher at the big box home centers. I would buy one from a industrial/commercial distributor. I know they'll cost more but you'll be getting a much better made unit that will have a much longer life.

Buckeye, Badger, Ansul, Pyrochem, Amerex are some brand name extinguishers that I could recommend. They all make stored pressure units with ABC chemical. That should cover any need you have for your basement shop and home use.

Lon Crosby
11-13-2019, 10:20 PM
2.5gallon pressurized water with a surfactant is most bang for the buck and the most punch. Most importantly, it s cheap enough to refill that you can test it by using test fires that you set. ColdFire is one surfactant Look for USDA fire service certification.

Lisa Starr
11-14-2019, 10:39 AM
I keep rechargeable style in my workshop, hubby's workshop and our home. I take them to a "Fire Protection" shop every other year for a check as long as they show green on the gauge. Have had to have them tested, but they give you a loaner to take home. When yours is ready to go, you just return the loaner and pickup yours. The charges are very minimal.

Ronald Blue
11-15-2019, 10:52 PM
To bad you discarded them. As has been said they were likely still good. You could have taken them for an inspection and recertification. It's hydrostatic testing not hydraulic testing. A water cannon extinguisher works for combustibles such as wood, paper, and debris. We use them for pre-wetting when doing welding, cutting, and grinding outside. Also to knock down a fire before it get's going if a spark does ignite something. However they are a poor choice for many other things. Definitely not the preferred choice for electrical or flammable liquid. It's difficult to beat an ABC for all around coverage.

Ole Anderson
11-16-2019, 10:09 AM
Got pulled over for a Coast Guard safety check Wednesday. He checked the fire extinguisher and said to periodically tip it upside down and thump it on the bottom with your hand to fluff up the dry chemical so it works properly if needed. Otherwise it tends to settle to the bottom and cake.

Convince me I am wrong: I think the biannual safety inspection by a certified fire extinguisher shop is a scam, at least for an extinguisher with a gauge. Often the cost is as much as a cheap extinguisher. I could go with five years though. I would be interested in the failure rates on a two year old extinguisher. Of course many would say that anything other than zero is unacceptable.

Stan Calow
11-16-2019, 10:17 AM
Just a note: our local city hazmat place wont take fire extinguishers. They suggested taking to a fire service company.

Myk Rian
11-16-2019, 3:57 PM
A little story about fire extinguishers;
We were on a trip from Mi to Al, then to Fl and Disney. '75 Ford van pulling a camper. 4 kids.

On our way from Al to Orlando, there is a big "POOF" and a cloud of smoke in the back of the van.
I pull over and jump out, open the back doors, and their is our son, (2nd born) all white, sitting in a white cloud, in a white van. The van was factory painted a dark blue. He bolted out couching.
Apparently he was messing with a small extinguisher that we kept next to the spare tire.

Get an extinguisher that has a screw on top. They can be recharged in case the kids mess with it.

Jerry Bruette
11-16-2019, 5:29 PM
Just a note: our local city hazmat place wont take fire extinguishers. They suggested taking to a fire service company.

No need to take them to a Hazmat place. If it's a dry powder chemical extinguisher there's nothing hazardous in them. You could discharge them in your backyard and then throw the empty shell in the trash.

Jerry Bruette
11-16-2019, 5:35 PM
Got pulled over for a Coast Guard safety check Wednesday. He checked the fire extinguisher and said to periodically tip it upside down and thump it on the bottom with your hand to fluff up the dry chemical so it works properly if needed. Otherwise it tends to settle to the bottom and cake.

Convince me I am wrong: I think the biannual safety inspection by a certified fire extinguisher shop is a scam, at least for an extinguisher with a gauge. Often the cost is as much as a cheap extinguisher. I could go with five years though. I would be interested in the failure rates on a two year old extinguisher. Of course many would say that anything other than zero is unacceptable.

The chemical will settle to the bottom, where else would it go, it won't cake though.

The company I work for makes way over a million extinguishers a year that meet all sorts of certifications in different countries around the world and we still have to have an outside company come and inspect the extinguishers hanging in our plant.