Looking for a good on-line source for Vertical Grain Fir

[Stephen Roth]

Despite going to a lot of yards and sawmills, I can't find anyone in my area (New Jersey) that stocks Vertical Grain Fir. I recall seeing an on-line company that specializes in softwoods, perhaps in Oregon or Washington, where that stuff grows. But I can't find them anymore. Does anyone know of a good source for this stuff?

Thanks.

Stephen

[Frank Pratt]

I've always wondered who decided to call it vertical grain. If you lay the board down it certainly isn't vertical anymore. But I digress. Check out some of the lumber reclaimers for old salvaged beams.

[Mel Fulks]

We used to routinely get it mixed with big orders of more slab cut stuff. It's bad about getting pieces torn off edges ,but
certainly good stuff for some things. I'm guessing there are some getting it in their orders who don't like it. Really hard
to mould the edges on a shaper ,unless you climb-cut.

[JERRY BRINKMAN]

We used to routinely get it mixed with big orders of more slab cut stuff. It's bad about getting pieces torn off edges ,but
certainly good stuff for some things. I'm guessing there are some getting it in their orders who don't like it. Really hard
to mould the edges on a shaper ,unless you climb-cut.

Edensaw in Port Townsend or Seattle.

[Jim Becker]

You can get it from Wehrungs Specialty Woods in Ottsville PA and it's not a bad trip for you to pick it up....but you do need to order it. 610-847-8002 and speak with Dan if he is there.

Here's two examples of that material:

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And from some scraps...

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[Brian Holcombe]

Willard Brothers has some on-hand last I checked with them, they can also order it and what they’ve gotten for me has been exceptional quality.

[Stephen Roth]

Thanks. I find them very helpful too.

[Bob Falk]

I have some nice VG Doug fir for sale...PM me if interested and I will send pics and board footage. I have a bro in law in NJ and could potentially get it to you for little or no shipping if you are not in a big hurry. bob

[Patrick Walsh]

Beer creek lumber..

Got about 800 bf of cvgdf and cvgayc fro them a couple years ago.

Very very nice material.

[Peter Kelly]

Delaware County Supply just south of Philadelphia has Doug Fir in several dimensions and grades.
http://delawarecountysupply.us/softwood.html

You might also try ML Condon in White Plains.
http://www.condonlumber.net

[Phillip Mitchell]

I'll second Bear Creek Lumber. I've seen very nice CVG Doug Fir and CVG Alaskan Yellow Cedar come from them on multiple occasions. Shipping it across the country is not cheap, but if you can't find it locally I wouldn't think twice about place an order with them.

[Ole Anderson]

What makes it vertical grain, and it it specific to fir? We are not just talking quarter sawn?

[Prashun Patel]

Yes, it is the same as quartersawn. I think softwoods are commonly called vertical grain, and hardwoods, quartersawn.

Although I’ve bought vertical grain walnut, so go figure.

My theory is that quartersawn refers to the method of cutting, which results in deliberately in vertical grain. But perhaps fir and softer woods are just flat sawn for yield, and any vertical grain pieces are coincidental?

[Jim Becker]

What makes it vertical grain, and it it specific to fir? We are not just talking quarter sawn?

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[Brian Holcombe]

Exactly as Jim shows, it's actually rift sawn with straight grain showing all all faces. Not the easiest thing to acquire in its truest form. Often enough I'm happier with Quartersawn for panels.

[Tom Hyde]

I'll give a second and third to both Bear Creek and Edensaw here in Washington State if you can't find it locally back there. I've ordered from both. Neither are the cheapest but both are top quality, high volume distributors. You will get what you paid for. Last time I checked, price locally was comparable to cherry, or more.

I remember local guys on the Olympic Peninsula here who would find a huge old growth fir log washed down by the river and ... buck it up and split it into firewood. Then again, I remember doing the same thing to cherry logs in the mountains of Virginia when I was a kid. Ouch.

[Brian Holcombe]

If they only knew that it sells for $15/bf in NJ. That is some very fine firewood.

[Tom Hyde]

If they only knew that it sells for $15/bf in NJ. That is some very fine firewood.

Wow. Very little of it is coming from U.S. forests now. I just went to my regional supplier to look up the price here. They've stopped posting board foot prices online. I think the market has gotten very "fluid." And my local lumber yard stopped stocking S4S fir last year since no one would buy it at the prices now. But you can still get hemlock. I hate hemlock.

[Jim Becker]

If they only knew that it sells for $15/bf in NJ. That is some very fine firewood.

I paid under $8 for the 8/4 I used for that "kitchen continent" project...I sure hope that the $15 material is absolutely pristine!!!

[Patrick Walsh]

I paid $11bf for both species two years ago.

Every board out of 800bf of 8/4 was perfect. Like perfect.

I’m a cabinet maker and I go through hundreds upon hundreds of board feet of lumber a month. Thousands a year both paint grade maple, cherry, walnut oak you name it. And this stock from bear creek was the best quality I have ever seen bar none..

[peter gagliardi]

$11 per bd ft , and every board BETTER be perfect!! Especially 2 years ago when wholesale pricing was around $5-6.50 bf.
Now, seems prices have jumped - due to tarriffs according to my suppliers- 30% more !!!!