New Veritas Flushing Chisel Handle & Blade Sets

[Hilton Ralphs]

I'm sure most of us have a flush chisel of sorts but this set looks pretty interesting;

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Find the set here (http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=76966&cat=51&ap=1).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpe-E-7d2NY

[Nicholas Lawrence]

On the couple of occasions I have wanted to trim something I could not reach with a regular chisel I have used a regular chisel bevel down.

[Rob Luter]

I guess I'd rather they offer a decent set of thin blade Cranked Neck Paring Chisels instead. Only Narex seems to make those now and they're too short and too thick.

[Nicholas Lawrence]

Craftsman Studios lists cranked neck chisels by Buck Brothers. I just looked and they show as out of stock. I have never tried them.


I guess I'd rather they offer a decent set of thin blade Cranked Neck Paring Chisels instead. Only Narex seems to make those now and they're too short and too thick.

[Derek Cohen]

I've been using prototypes of these for a few years now. Very handy chisels when there is a need.

I have also added a long, Japanese-type slick handle. I'll post pictures at some stage.

Regards from Perth

Derek

[Jim Koepke]

On the couple of occasions I have wanted to trim something I could not reach with a regular chisel I have used a regular chisel bevel down.

Ditto

jtk

[ken hatch]

Those would be a nice addition to your kit. I have often posted that my Woodcraft crank neck chisel is the cheapest but most used chisel in my shop. Here it is cleaning up a glue line on the current bench build:

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It never leaves the bench and is used for everything but opening paint cans.

BTW, I like the fact they are firmer style.

ken

[Jim Koepke]

But, but, but Hilton, these are in inch sizes! Doesn't that go against your style? :D

Kind of interesting for a modern crank neck style chisel.

jtk

[lowell holmes]

The mass in these chisels will help when paring. The broad flat backs are nice too.

[Hilton Ralphs]

But, but, but Hilton, these are in inch sizes! Doesn't that go against your style? :D

Kind of interesting for a modern crank neck style chisel.

jtk

Jim, I'll just have to make sure all my plugs are sized in inches or I'll be buggered (double entendre intended).

;)

[Stewie Simpson]

Hilton; will you be using those flush cutting chisels for woodwork. :D


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[Hilton Ralphs]

Hilton; will you be using those flush cutting chisels for woodwork. :D


Perhaps but to give you some perspective this is what I carry in my car along with a Mora in the glove box, a leatherman on my belt and a CRKT folder in my laptop bag.

Becker BK2, all 1/4" of persuading steel.

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[Günter VögelBerg]

I am sure they are excellent quality, but I feel like I do about a lot of Veritas tools--they seem a little over-engineered. The removable handle seems like a needless complication.

[Jim Koepke]

The removable handle seems like a needless complication.

For some this might make it easier to transport a few chisels for work outside the shop.

For others it might be the option of installing a special purpose handle.

For me some old Buck Brothers crank necked chisels do the job quite well.

jtk

[Will Blick]

I assume it was to save costs as well, only one handle u must buy
if u want a handle for each chisel, buy extra handles.
Great offering, this is on my BUY list....
Kudos to Robs team for continually designing high quality ww tools at competitive pricing....

[Derek Cohen]

This is a specialist chisel. You will generally only need one size ... when it is needed. You do not need a bank of them lined up alongside your bench. The idea is to reduce clutter. One handle with a choice of blades.

Regards from Perth

Derek

[Jim Koepke]

How long do you suppose it will be before there iis a listing for just the handle hardware for those who want to make their own handles?

jtk

[lowell holmes]

It looks like a clever solution to a tool box problem to me.

[Derek Cohen]

I have been using this prototype set since 2016 ...

https://i.postimg.cc/GpmgVc71/1.jpg

The handle is printed but very functional. The blades are the same as those that went into production. They came flat ... flat ... flat. Which is important since that is how they are used.

https://i.postimg.cc/ZYd71sc0/2.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/mkCmChD7/3.jpg

Are they useful? Very, in the right circumstance.

Are they necessary? No, one can use a chisel bevel down, or every a thick plane blade.

Should you get them? I don't know about getting a whole lot of cranked chisels. I have always had a couple of flat ones and a few cranked gouges. They get used, but they are specialist chisels, so not used very often. I think that the whole point of the Veritas offering is that you get one handle and a couple of blades. It is more cost-effective as well as a space saving.

One of the additions I made to this set was to add a long handle ... ala a Japanese slick (very easy to do as all you need is to recess a thread, which is a standard size). I found that I liked the extra length for control, plus it gave a little more clearance when pushing.

https://i.postimg.cc/JhYYW9vH/4.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/ydJQ6LCQ/5.jpg

Here is a comparison with a Japanese cranked neck chisel ...

https://i.postimg.cc/C1WvRbFF/6.jpg

Regards from Perth

Derek

[Anuj Prateek]

Those would be a nice addition to your kit. I have often posted that my Woodcraft crank neck chisel is the cheapest but most used chisel in my shop. Here it is cleaning up a glue line on the current bench build:

It never leaves the bench and is used for everything but opening paint cans.

ken

+1

I bought the same chisel (1"). It along with a block plane always stay on the bench.

Sometimes I like using it bevel down, like a plane. My planer blade has a nick. So on wide boards it leaves a trail. This or block plane, whichever is near cleans it up.

I have used it on tenon's for paring. It feels better than straight handle for this.

[Will Blick]

I just got the 1 inch... spent some time working with it.
I agree with previous comment...
wish the handle was higher...
when using it on flat panel, such as cleaning up glue line on a panel, u can not get your fingers under the handle, unless u want to scrape your knuckles on the board. Otherwise, a nice chisel...

[Frederick Skelly]

I have often posted that my Woodcraft crank neck chisel is the cheapest but most used chisel in my shop. Here it is cleaning up a glue line on the current bench build:

ken

Quick aside: Ken, I followed your lead and ordered a 1" from Woodcraft. It arrived the other day. It set up easily and looks like she'll be useful. Plenty of clearance when using bevel up. Thanks for the tip.
Fred

[David Marcus Brown]

Quick aside: Ken, I followed your lead and ordered a 1" from Woodcraft. It arrived the other day. It set up easily and looks like she'll be useful. Plenty of clearance when using bevel up. Thanks for the tip.
Fred
Just for clarification, are you guys talking about the twenty-something dollar “bent neck” paring chisels or their hundred dollar Japanese, crank-neck paring chisels? Thanks! :-)

[Derek Cohen]

David. I see that I shall need to write up a report on these chisels.

As mentioned earlier, they are specialist items, and one can easily do without them. However, having one (or more) of these is incredibly helpful if there is one to hand at the time of need.

The Veritas are versions of what otherwise might be termed a cranked neck chisel. The main two differences are, firstly, that these ones are made by Veritas, which means that there is no .. nil .. nada work to do in preparation, other than give the bevel an extra hone. The backs are flat beyond NASA specifications! :) This is a Very Big Factor when you realise that this type of chisel is used on the flat. A banana back would be fun or frustrating, dependending on your sense of humour! :)

Secondly, you get PM-V11 steel which, for the unenlightened, is possibly the best modern steel available for plane and chisel blades. It hones fairly easily, takes a superior edge, and then holds it equally well.

I guess that there is a third feature, which is the obvious one, that is, it is possibly to put together a set of blade widths with a single handle, which is a cost-savings of sort (some will argue, as I did earlier on, that you only need one blade ... but I guess that depends what you want to do with the chisel).

I have just received a production handle (actually two!) from Veritas/Lee Valley (many thanks!), and am now in a position to say more about the full set, and how they may be used. I'll try and get to this in the next few weeks.

Regards from Perth

Derek

[Frederick Skelly]

Just for clarification, are you guys talking about the twenty-something dollar “bent neck” paring chisels or their hundred dollar Japanese, crank-neck paring chisels? Thanks! :-)

Hi David.
I bought this one: LINK (https://www.woodcraft.com/products/woodriver-bent-paring-chisel-1). It seems "good enough" for my applications (so far anyway). YMMV.

I love LV tools. This time, I went with the inexpensive option because I expect it to be an occasional use tool. Hard to argue with Derek's good points though, depending on your needs. (Obviously, many people agree - they are nearly sold out.) I will say, it took me only 5 mins to flatten the back on the one I received from Woodcraft.

Fred

[Phil Mueller]

Based on Ken’s post, I picked up a 1” on a recent visit to Woodcraft. I found it usable out of the package with a small amount of honing. I checked the back and found that the heel and bevel end were coplaner with a slight hollow in the center. As a pairing chisel, this wouldn't be an issue, but being a bit OCD on things like this, I spent about 30 minutes with sandpaper to flatten and mirror the back. I plan to use it similar to Ken; remove glue, price stickers, etc.

As Derek mentioned, I don’t see needing more than one size, at least for what I plan to use it for. There have been a few occasions I could have put other sizes to use, but these were easily solved with careful bevel down paring.

[David Marcus Brown]

Thanks Derek. While I am tempted by Lee Valleys full set and tool roll I’ll probably select one size that will fit my needs and go with that—either 3/4” or 1”.

[Tony Zaffuto]

David. I see that I shall need to write up a report on these chisels.

As mentioned earlier, they are specialist items, and one can easily do without them. However, having one (or more) of these is incredibly helpful if there is one to hand at the time of need.

The Veritas are versions of what otherwise might be termed a cranked neck chisel. The main two differences are, firstly, that these ones are made by Veritas, which means that there is no .. nil .. nada work to do in preparation, other than give the bevel an extra hone. The backs are flat beyond NASA specifications! :) This is a Very Big Factor when you realise that this type of chisel is used on the flat. A banana back would be fun or frustrating, dependending on your sense of humour! :)

Secondly, you get PM-V11 steel which, for the unenlightened, is possibly the best modern steel available for plane and chisel blades. It hones fairly easily, takes a superior edge, and then holds it equally well.

I guess that there is a third feature, which is the obvious one, that is, it is possibly to put together a set of blade widths with a single handle, which is a cost-savings of sort (some will argue, as I did earlier on, that you only need one blade ... but I guess that depends what you want to do with the chisel).

I have just received a production handle (actually two!) from Veritas/Lee Valley (many thanks!), and am now in a position to say more about the full set, and how they may be used. I'll try and get to this in the next few weeks.

Regards from Perth

Derek

Derek made a major point in his post, that is, the reference to the " banana" back. I had a Hirsh or Two Cherries of that style and it was frustrating to use. It was given away to a person I did not like very much.

I've had one of the Woodriver bent chisels, and it does the job for me, though I would have liked it to be a bit longer. But these are not tools you use a lot, or really need.

[Cliff Polubinsky]

But these are not tools you use a lot, or really need.

Heck, if I only bought the tools I really needed I'd have a third less tools and half as much fun.

Cliff

[Jim Koepke]

Heck, if I only bought the tools I really needed I'd have a third less tools and half as much fun.

Cliff

+1 on that! :eek:

jtk