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Todd Zucker
08-05-2019, 3:59 PM
Is there a post that lists all of the credible rationalizations for buying tools. I’m running low.

Mark Bolton
08-05-2019, 4:05 PM
Is there a post that lists all of the credible rationalizations for buying tools. I’m running low.

Your best source for rationalization would be your wife, your child, your financial advisor, and you can descend from there. Typically your own long term well being takes a back seat.

Mark Hockenberg
08-05-2019, 6:06 PM
Is there a post that lists all of the credible rationalizations for buying tools. I’m running low.

I assume you're related to David and Jerry Zucker :)

Here's a partial list:
- It keeps you at home and out of mischief
- It's cheaper than a boat / airplane / sports car
- It makes you a better neighbor
- "I'll make you furniture, honey"
- Better investment than booze and drugs
- Saves money on contractor service calls
- Optimizes the vacant space in the basement

My arrangement with my wife is she buys designer boots and purses / I buy tools. Neither one asks "how much". Seems to work for us.

Mike Kees
08-05-2019, 6:07 PM
What does that word mean ?:rolleyes:

Tom M King
08-05-2019, 6:51 PM
That's easy. If you don't have one of any type, buy one.

Matt Day
08-05-2019, 8:32 PM
Better and cheaper than golf as a hobby.

I’m not wasting my money on clothes!

I got a great deal and I saved $X00.00 by buying used.

I just sold XYZ tool so I had to replace it/have the money to spend.


First that came to my mind.

Mike Kees
08-06-2019, 12:06 AM
My favorite one is "It's a write-off" . Probably one of the best things about having your own business.

Osvaldo Cristo
08-06-2019, 5:42 AM
Is there a post that lists all of the credible rationalizations for buying tools. I’m running low.

I think the is one of the best: life is short.

Dominik Dudkiewicz
08-06-2019, 8:37 AM
The way I see it, with asset bubbles everywhere and even cash under attack by the world central banks and governments - each trying to debase their currencies faster than the others, investing in quality tools is the safest place to put your fiat currency. Other than maybe gold... but that's far too soft to cut wood with. Having said that, just don't spend money you don't have! Unless you want to use the argument that you are making a sacrifice to help stimulate the economy! But then you better buy Lie Nielsen or something made in the USA.

Cheers, Dom

Chris Pyle
08-06-2019, 9:17 AM
Is there a post that lists all of the credible rationalizations for buying tools. I’m running low.

If you're running low, you're not trying hard enough. Get a good night's sleep, eat a healthy breakfast and carpe instrumentum!

Erik Loza
08-06-2019, 10:24 AM
I had a customer many years ago who spent $10K on a combo machine, explaining to his wife that the new kitchen she wanted would be about $40K but that if he got our machine, not only would that save them money but that he could then do further work for her in the house. All in the garage, no mess inside, no contractors coming in and out, etc. She gave him the green light on the spot! Always thought that was a great rationale.

Erik

Rick Potter
08-06-2019, 12:50 PM
Erik is spot on.

When I built my kitchen for the old house 25 years ago, I spent $1800 on a new Unisaw. When the kitchen was done, we had spent $2800 less than the neighbor for the same kitchen size, and his was melamine boxes from the store, and mine was all oak with raised panels. We both installed our own, and counters were not counted.

PS: All the raised panel doors were done on a bench top router table, using a PC 690 router. My daughter now lives in that house, and the kitchen still looks great.

Mark Bolton
08-06-2019, 1:04 PM
I had a customer many years ago who spent $10K on a combo machine, explaining to his wife that the new kitchen she wanted would be about $40K but that if he got our machine, not only would that save them money but that he could then do further work for her in the house. All in the garage, no mess inside, no contractors coming in and out, etc. She gave him the green light on the spot! Always thought that was a great rationale.

Erik

Did you ever find out if he finished the job or is there still an open hole where a drawer needs to be made, three missing switch plates, and the undercabinet lighting only worked for a week? ;-)

ChrisA Edwards
08-07-2019, 10:07 AM
Thank you for this thread, I ordered a Shaper back in April 2019 and paid for it back then.

Felder has been great is delaying the delivery. I've been putting it off for several months while I finish a large house project which has occupied most of the space in my garage/workshop.

I hadn't told the wife about this purchase, armed with lots of excuses and reasons from this thread, I got brave enough to do it this morning.....:)

Turned out to be a non event, he wasn't happy, but the discussion was over in 30 seconds.

Adam Grund
08-07-2019, 11:21 AM
Did you ever find out if he finished the job or is there still an open hole where a drawer needs to be made, three missing switch plates, and the undercabinet lighting only worked for a week? ;-)
Damn, you must’ve walked in to my house.
Armed with ambitious plans for a simple kitchen rearrangement, starting when my wife was 6 months pregnant was not a smart idea at all. 19 months later and #2 here within the last couple months, it realllly wasn’t a smart move 😬
The kitchen is fully functional, just missing a few doors and a backsplash, so not a complete failure. Time; it’s a scarce thing

Pat Barry
08-07-2019, 12:05 PM
You don't need it if you need help with this.

Mark Bolton
08-07-2019, 2:42 PM
Damn, you must’ve walked in to my house.
Armed with ambitious plans for a simple kitchen rearrangement, starting when my wife was 6 months pregnant was not a smart idea at all. 19 months later and #2 here within the last couple months, it realllly wasn’t a smart move 
The kitchen is fully functional, just missing a few doors and a backsplash, so not a complete failure. Time; it’s a scarce thing

Copious quantities of ambition and notions of productivity usually abound for all of us when we are either trying to irrationally rationalize a purchase we know in our heart of hearts isnt wise, or when we are just on a day where the world feels great, or (and this is the worst) we are somehow trying to con ourselves into the notion that we are either saving money, or if were not saving money at least we will wind up spending the same but having the tools.

One of my favorites is the notion that if you just buy all the stuff (tools and materials) your 90% of the way there. Its kinda like the person who buys a new house and in their uncontrollable excitement to go all HGTV on something gets a bit carried away with a sledge hammer and a pry bar and before they know it they are standing in an entire floor of bare studs and then are like "what... did... I.... just.... do".

Erik Loza
08-09-2019, 11:26 AM
Hahaha, no I did not. Maybe he never left the garage after the machine got delivered.

Erik