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Bruce Darrow
08-05-2019, 2:16 PM
Looking for a good source for clear, all heartwood walnut in small quantity - some 6/4 for (4) 24" legs, some 4/4 for various small table parts. I'm trying to match some very old (100 yr +?) material that I'm re-purposing - I've designed a 18"D, 24"W, 24"H bedside table for my daughter and I have enough for the top, 2 of 3 aprons and the drawer front, so can do most of what is highly visible with the old stock. I've looked at what is available locally, and I'm not impressed.......willing to pay UPS shipping to get really nice stuff. I've never ordered materials on line/by phone before. Any recommendations for supplier(s)? I understand that I'll need to figure in a significant waste % to get all heartwood, and would prefer unsteamed.

Brian Holcombe
08-05-2019, 2:19 PM
Horizon wood will UPS small orders. I've sourced incredible wood from them, exceptional quality.

Jim Becker
08-05-2019, 2:52 PM
I will attest to the quality of the lumber that Brian has received from Horizon...really excellent stuff.

Robert Chapman
08-05-2019, 5:01 PM
Try Bell Forest Products in Ishpeming MI - www.bellforestproducts.com 1-906-486-4769 ask for Boone or Eric.

Bruce Darrow
08-07-2019, 6:56 AM
Thank you gentlemen for the steer(s). I've been in touch with Pete at Horizon and am awaiting his response based on what we discussed.

Matt Day
08-07-2019, 8:04 AM
There aren’t good sources in VT?

Bruce Darrow
08-07-2019, 2:47 PM
There aren’t good sources in VT?
Matt, sources, yes, although limited, and what I saw I wasn't impressed with. Keep in mind, I'm trying to match up with very old walnut......

Matt Day
08-07-2019, 3:29 PM
Matt, sources, yes, although limited, and what I saw I wasn't impressed with. Keep in mind, I'm trying to match up with very old walnut......

Gotcha. Matching walnut can be a bear.

John TenEyck
08-07-2019, 3:53 PM
Gotcha. Matching walnut can be a bear.


That's why dyes, stains, and glazes were developed. You will almost never be able to get a perfect color match with woods like walnut, cherry, and others. After a hundred years it would be almost impossible for new wood to match old, aged wood. The only way I know how to get there is to start out with something close, if possible, but always lighter, and then adjust the color until it matches, then finish the whole thing with a light stable finish so it stays that way for a long, long time.

John

Mark Daily
08-07-2019, 3:59 PM
I buy all my wood from www.woodworkerssource.com in Phoenix, Az. Because I live here I just drive over and pick it up but they are very good at shipping. I think most of their business is on-line. They have a great selection of hardwoods and are really good about picking out the best wood they have in stock.

Prashun Patel
08-07-2019, 4:20 PM
Ask for "VG" walnut for your legs. You'll be surprised how the different age of the legs vs the visible top and drawer front just won't matter a bit to the overall look.

If you buy Vertical grain, you pay a little more, but you'll end up wasting precious little of it if you are making table legs and 'various small table parts'.

Bruce Darrow
08-07-2019, 6:23 PM
That's why dyes, stains, and glazes were developed. You will almost never be able to get a perfect color match with woods like walnut, cherry, and others. After a hundred years it would be almost impossible for new wood to match old, aged wood. The only way I know how to get there is to start out with something close, if possible, but always lighter, and then adjust the color until it matches, then finish the whole thing with a light stable finish so it stays that way for a long, long time.

John So noted. Hoping to avoid, but you gotta do what you gotta do.....

Patrick Walsh
08-07-2019, 7:40 PM
Orion just hand picked me a beautiful pile of 12/4 walnut that was either rift or material I could cut rift from.

They did a excellent job picking this lumber, as a result I have had near if not zero waist. Every stick I cut into to mill up I got exactly what I needed out of. I purchased overage and I won’t use any of it.

Bruce Darrow
08-08-2019, 3:24 PM
Orion just hand picked me a beautiful pile of 12/4 walnut that was either rift or material I could cut rift from.

They did a excellent job picking this lumber, as a result I have had near if not zero waist. Every stick I cut into to mill up I got exactly what I needed out of. I purchased overage and I won’t use any of it.

Patrick: Did you mean Irion?

Mike King
08-08-2019, 3:27 PM
I've had excellent experience with Irion. You do have to buy a bunch...

Patrick Walsh
08-08-2019, 6:44 PM
Yes my bad..

I have trouble with their name..

The way it sounds on their voicemail always makes me question is spelling and pronunciation..

So far they are my favorite regardless. In my experience way better than Hearn. Nothing wrong with Hern just overpriced and you kinda get what you get from my experience if you want perfect your gonna have to sell a organ at Hearn. With these other guys have a great consistent high quality product hand picked for my project for what I consider I fair price.

I guess doing what I do I never purchase extremely small quantities. Normally at least 2-300 bf. This last walnut order though was only 60-70bf and they Irion had no problem selling it to me. It was on my loading dock two days after I placed the order..

I have had a good experience with Horizone also.

Bruce Darrow
08-08-2019, 9:38 PM
I haven't heard back from Horizon - strange, we had a good conversation. But - small order for an outfit geared toward large pieces - I'll try to be patient. I am planning a trip to WV in a week or two, so a side trip to Irion is a distinct possibility, thus sidestepping the minimum order for shipping.