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Mark e Kessler
07-29-2019, 10:43 PM
Anyone put their hands on one of these? First impressions? As much as I would love to get an Oakley, Whirlwind etc I just don’t have the space, I may not even want to give up the space for this.

At first look I was thinking It was a bit more that the others in the same category and it is (Jet, laguna, asia imports) but the motor is bigger and the build looks a bit more heavy

https://www.felder-group.com/us-us/products/stroke-edge-sanders/edge-sanders-hs-950.html


Thanks, Mark

Rod Sheridan
07-30-2019, 8:19 AM
Hi Mark, I wanted one however we don't sell them in Canada so I would have been on the hook for electrical approval and modifications, if required.

They do look good........Rod.

Jim Becker
07-30-2019, 8:20 AM
That sure does look like it has nice features, Mark.

Patrick Kane
07-30-2019, 9:06 AM
Learn something new every day, i had no idea there was a Hammer line of sanders. Agreed, a few of the features look great. I didnt login, what is the price?

Some of the high end end sanders are incredible. I could never justify spending so much on such a machine, but maybe ill stumble into a great deal one day.

Mark e Kessler
07-30-2019, 9:16 AM
It’s been out for 6-8 months, the list is 2k, There is a container of them arriving in October, not sure how many though. I do think they will raise the price in the next year.
Mark


Learn something new every day, i had no idea there was a Hammer line of sanders. Agreed, a few of the features look great. I didnt login, what is the price?

Some of the high end end sanders are incredible. I could never justify spending so much on such a machine, but maybe ill stumble into a great deal one day.

Erik Loza
07-30-2019, 9:45 AM
We had one in the booth at the AWFS show. Bearing in mind that edge sanders are not my specialty, It looked like a lot of machine for the price point and there was a fair amount of interest in it. Hope this helps,

Erik

Mark e Kessler
07-30-2019, 10:26 AM
The Manual can be found with an online search, one thing I noted in the exploded view was the detail they put into the table lift mechanism, gears and gas struts, if you look closely the sheet metal parts like the plate for the idler it appears to be pretty heavy compared to say the Jet. The one thing that slightly baffles me is why didn't hey put a door in the front for storage (obviously to keep cost down)

One other comment, I don't real think this can be an apples to apples with the Asian imports. I wouldn't imagine it's Felders intent in competing in the same low cost machine so I would expect it would cost more.

Mark


Learn something new every day, i had no idea there was a Hammer line of sanders. Agreed, a few of the features look great. I didnt login, what is the price?

Some of the high end end sanders are incredible. I could never justify spending so much on such a machine, but maybe ill stumble into a great deal one day.

Ben Rivel
07-30-2019, 10:43 AM
I had seen it before and considered trying to hunt one down but its really just a better looking Jet (LINK (https://www.jettools.com/us/en/p/oes-80cs-oscillating-6-x-89-belt-edge-sander/708447)), Laguna (LINK (https://lagunatools.com/classic-machinery/sanders/689t-edge-sander/)), Delta (LINK (https://deltamachinery.com/products/sanders/31-482/)), Baileigh (LINK (https://www.baileigh.com/edge-sander-es-6100)) or any of the other many companies that use that same chinese design.

Mark e Kessler
07-30-2019, 11:01 AM
No, it’s totally a better build then any of the below You can see it when you compare them side by side, I didn’t even look at the cosmetic- but if thats your thing... Not sure if its worth the premium but I can almost bet money that it will be better than the below for a smallish oscillating edge sander in the under 2k range their aren’t many if any other options. Don’t get me wrong if i had the space I would drop 5k on a used Oakley or Oakley type build.


I had seen it before and considered trying to hunt one down but its really just a better looking Jet (LINK (https://www.jettools.com/us/en/p/oes-80cs-oscillating-6-x-89-belt-edge-sander/708447)), Laguna (LINK (https://lagunatools.com/classic-machinery/sanders/689t-edge-sander/)), Delta (LINK (https://deltamachinery.com/products/sanders/31-482/)), Baileigh (LINK (https://www.baileigh.com/edge-sander-es-6100)) or any of the other many companies that use that same chinese design.

Ben Rivel
07-30-2019, 11:51 AM
No, it’s totally a better build then any of the below You can see it when you compare them side by side, I didn’t even look at the cosmetic- but if thats your thing... Not sure if its worth the premium but I can almost bet money that it will be better than the below for a smallish oscillating edge sander in the under 2k range their aren’t many if any other options. Don’t get me wrong if i had the space I would drop 5k on a used Oakley or Oakley type build.
How much do they want for it?

Rod Sheridan
07-30-2019, 1:14 PM
How much do they want for it?

List is $1895

https://us.feldershop.com/en-US/en-US/Sanding/Machines/

regards, Rod.

Ben Rivel
07-30-2019, 1:23 PM
List is $1895

https://us.feldershop.com/en-US/en-US/Sanding/Machines/

regards, Rod.
Ouch. Yea that is a bit pricey. I ended up going with the Grizzly G0563 (LINK (https://www.grizzly.com/products/Grizzly-6-x-89-Oscillating-Edge-Sander/G0563)). Not really a big Grizzly fan, but after the issues I had in the forefront with that particular machine so far its been okay. Hasnt gotten a lot of use though to be honest.

Rod Sheridan
07-30-2019, 3:36 PM
Ouch. Yea that is a bit pricey. I ended up going with the Grizzly G0563 (LINK (https://www.grizzly.com/products/Grizzly-6-x-89-Oscillating-Edge-Sander/G0563)). Not really a big Grizzly fan, but after the issues I had in the forefront with that particular machine so far its been okay. Hasnt gotten a lot of use though to be honest.
Wow, the Grizzly is $3,300 Canadian, I'd go with the Hammer.......Rod.

Matt Day
07-30-2019, 7:04 PM
Grizzly or Felder... same price.... easy choice.

Terry Therneau
07-31-2019, 10:55 PM
I bought an Ekstrom Carlson with 80" belt (the smaller one) a little over a year ago (solid old cast iron). There is an old adage that an edge sander is one of last tools you buy, and one of the last you let go of at the end. I can testify that it's true. The thing is hugely useful.
Terry T.

Matt Day
08-01-2019, 7:30 AM
Terry, I’ve been hunting for one of those for a while now! Nice find.

Frederick Skelly
08-01-2019, 7:57 AM
I bought an Ekstrom Carlson with 80" belt (the smaller one) a little over a year ago (solid old cast iron). There is an old adage that an edge sander is one of last tools you buy, and one of the last you let go of at the end. I can testify that it's true. The thing is hugely useful.
Terry T.

Hi Terry,
Can you describe what you use yours to do? I had the mistaken impression that edge sanders were really useful, but for a very small number of things. (Right tool for the job, but only a limited number of jobs.)

Thank you!
Fred

Erik Loza
08-09-2019, 11:28 AM
Randomly ran across this video on Youtube of the HS950 in action. Had not see it before. I would highly suggest playing it on mute unless you enjoy overly dramatic backround tracks.

Erik

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOwR1D2uWNc

Joel Wesseling
09-22-2019, 7:49 AM
FWIW, the canadian Hammer site shows a list price of $2573can

John C Bush
09-24-2019, 12:29 PM
Anyone familiar with the Vega oscillating edge sander. Similar cost and has more oscillation range plus curved platen accessories.

Erik Loza
05-07-2020, 9:40 AM
I just got this setup video of the HS950. Good look at the overall build quality, size, etc. You can also see the open end and little table, which somewhat gives you a spindle-sanding "cheater" function.

Erik


https://youtu.be/88UQgAoJfbQ

Mike King
05-07-2020, 10:30 AM
Pretty amazing how it drops into perfect alignment with the bolt holes on the stand. :D

Erik Loza
05-07-2020, 12:05 PM
Pretty amazing how it drops into perfect alignment with the bolt holes on the stand. :D

You noticed that, too?...:p

Erik

Mark e Kessler
05-07-2020, 12:23 PM
Actually it does believe it or not, however it does not if you try to assemble the base in the other direction...don’t ask how I know...🤪


Pretty amazing how it drops into perfect alignment with the bolt holes on the stand. :D

Pat Rice
05-07-2020, 12:32 PM
I’ve watched the videos and saw one at the Tampa woodworking show in January. Still trying to figure out two things: 1) what would I use it for and 2) where would I put it in my shop. Have not been able to answer either question, but I did enter the drawing to win one ��

Erik Loza
05-07-2020, 1:03 PM
Pat, edge sanders are kind of new to me as well but I can tell you that it was been one of our steadiest sellers. The whole Etsy-type makerspace: Cutting boards, softwood signs, other arts/crafts-type projects seem like the ideal customer. I just delivered a Felder FS900KF (industrial version of the HS950) to a local customer. They use it to sand the edges of their faceframe doors. So, solid wood cabinetry makers as well.

Erik

Gary Markham
05-07-2020, 9:10 PM
I ordered one is sept. Maybe oct last year. So long ago I don’t exactly remember. Anyway it arrived last week. Perfect condition. Extremely well packed. Easy to assemble. Base is much thicker steel than I expected. Holes have tight tolerance but line up easy. Unit comes in 2 main pieces. Base you bolt together. Complete sander unit is fully assembled and sets on the base. I used a hoist to do this. My son and I tested the weight by hand and it seamed way too heavy to lift with care by 2 people. I played with it over the weekend and am really pleased with initial impressions. Table height adjustment is supper easy compared to the jet videos. The belt and guard install easy. Dust collection is pretty good. Catching almost all of it but leaving some on the stock stop near the chute. Running it without dust collection would be a mess. This is the only edge sander I have used so I don’t have any comparison. This unit has very good fit and finish, good table size and mass for stability. I really like it so far. Maybe a bit over the top for the 4 squirrel feeders I used it for so far. Need to start a garden bench for a real test
thanks
gary

Mike Kees
05-07-2020, 11:35 PM
Rod just for fun go to Grizzly's site and set the shipping country to the US. Once you have that price then switch to Canada as the shipping country,it is nuts lots of machines suddenly go up 40% above and beyond the current exchange rate. I have purchased from them in the past and would again,but will pay in US dollars and ship to Montana or it is not worth it. Not sure why they inflate prices so much for Canadians.

Jim Becker
05-08-2020, 9:18 AM
Looks like a nice machine!

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Mike, is Grizzly actually shipping to Canada now? They didn't used to do that, AFAIK.

Jack Wilkerson
05-19-2020, 11:39 AM
I received my HS 950 a few weeks ago and finished setting it up 2 days ago. I have not run it yet waiting on checking all of the attachments are set and adjusted. It weighs 560 lbs. according to the shipping papers. Very nice quality build. High power motor. I used a jib crane hoist with multiple straps to lift it and assemble the base to the top. I put in on a Grizzly Heavy Duty mobile base with extended length bars I machined on a milling machine. I cut a thick plywood shelf to insert inside the base to hold 4 solid concrete blocks to lower the center of gravity and make it solid and stable. I had to wait about 8 or more months since my order, but the Felder office offered free shipping and other perks so I am very pleased with the transaction.

Andy D Jones
05-19-2020, 2:29 PM
List is $1895

https://us.feldershop.com/en-US/en-US/Sanding/Machines/

regards, Rod.

As soon as you click through and select the US single-phase motor, the price jumps to $1,995.00. Miter fence/gauge is additional $242.

Still a good deal for that machine.

-- Andy - Arlington TX

Erik Loza
05-20-2020, 9:31 AM
I'm almost positive any of the aftermarket mitre gauges like the Incra should fit the HS950. Maybe someone who already has one can chime in. I just had one delivered to a local customer but he hasn't had time to set it up yet and is in the at-risk demographic for Covid, so I won't be visiting any time soon.

Erik

Mark e Kessler
05-20-2020, 9:45 AM
The incra will not fit, I had one laying around and tried it. The Felder version looks nice albeit expensive, waiting for the sale... Or may just make something, but time is better spent doing other things...


I'm almost positive any of the aftermarket mitre gauges like the Incra should fit the HS950. Maybe someone who already has one can chime in. I just had one delivered to a local customer but he hasn't had time to set it up yet and is in the at-risk demographic for Covid, so I won't be visiting any time soon.

Erik

Erik Loza
05-21-2020, 10:32 AM
The incra will not fit, I had one laying around and tried it. The Felder version looks nice albeit expensive, waiting for the sale... Or may just make something, but time is better spent doing other things...

Good to know. Thanks for chiming in.

Erik

Rod Sheridan
05-21-2020, 5:21 PM
Hi Erik, the Hammer machine would have a metric slot in the table, I presume the same size as the band saws which is 15mm.............Rod.

Joel Wesseling
05-25-2021, 1:57 PM
Any changes - will the hammer sander come to Canada?

Is there other Euro or NA machines around the price of the Hammer. THX.

Joel Wesseling
05-25-2021, 3:53 PM
They are available. $3500ca. 12-16 week lead time.. The price seems high considering its $2000usd. Can I get a better machine for $3.5k

Bobby Robbinett
05-26-2021, 6:58 AM
These are wonderful well built machines. I recently bought an old Whitney edge sander that is over 8ft long in physical length. I can edge sand the long end of standard entryway doors no problem. I am having to tear it apart and rebuild it as it sat under a tarp outside for two years. New motor, spindles and bearings plus a whole lot of elbow grease and it is coming on along. Mine is significantly larger than this one and the motor is a 7.5HP. I would be all over the Hammer or Felder at that price. I will have about $3k in mine once done.