It's official I moved from woodworking hobbyist to tool addict

[Brian Runau]

I realized today I have three routers in my shop. Crossed the line! Brian

[Mike Henderson]

Three routers doesn't necessarily make you a tool addict. There are good reasons for having multiple routers - I have about six. The reason I have multiple routers is because I do certain jobs often enough that I want to have the router bit set up and ready to go. The routers that I have set up are all DeWalt trim routers, one for making hinge mortises for certain hinges, one for edge roundover, and one for something else (too difficult to explain).

I have two "big" routers, one in a table and one for hand use.

Mike

[Gary Petersen]

Three routers seems like a good start. :-) I have five, though one came from my Dad several years ago and hasn't been used yet. Another will likely go into non-use and will get sold when I finish the router table build I have in progress.

[Rich Engelhardt]

Nah - you're still fine.

It's when you buy a tool you have no idea what it does or why you needed it in the first place - - all you know is that it has a cool name or looks or sounds cool.....THAT's when you cross that magic line ;).

[Brian Runau]

Funny stuff thanks for the yucks. Brian

[Dave Zellers]

I realized today I have three routers in my shop. Crossed the line! Brian
Welcome to the other side of the line.

I have eight. Carpentry and woodworking was my profession but retired now.

I was a tool addict too. It was great fun. Now I'm struggling with it and probably have to tell myself once a week- 'You don't need that, you're retired!'

[John Lanciani]

Piker, I have almost a dozen bandsaws in the house right now... ;)

[Bruce Wrenn]

I would have stand naked in the shower to count all the routers I own. Only ever got two new, bought one (store closing special) and did a survey for Delta / Porter Cable at IWF, for which they gave me a new PC 690. I donated that 690 to local woodworking forum to use as a raffle prize. Raffle supports the cost of running forum, so it's a win / win situation. I have three band saws, four table saws, four welders (two stick, one MIG, and a gas drive stick.) Recently gave son's friend a Lincoln 225 AC machine that I rescued from being thrown into dumpsters. Just at the right place at the right time, as two guys were fixing to throw it into metal bin. Sure was glad I had the trailer with me that day.

[Tom M King]

There is no difference between "woodworking hobbyist", and "toll addict", or at least, not one that I've seen.

I'm not a hobbyist, but even so, I couldn't remember how many routers I own if my life depended on it.

[Andrew Seemann]

Three routers doesn't necessarily make you a tool addict. There are good reasons for having multiple routers - I have about six. The reason I have multiple routers is because I do certain jobs often enough that I want to have the router bit set up and ready to go. The routers that I have set up are all DeWalt trim routers, one for making hinge mortises for certain hinges, one for edge roundover, and one for something else (too difficult to explain).

I have two "big" routers, one in a table and one for hand use.

Mike

That is my justification for my router collection also, but it also extends to hand planes, chisels, handsaws, sharpening stones, hammers, braces & bits, socket wrenches, shovels, etc. Pretty soon, you look around, and realize that the only reason you don't have more tools its that you don't have more room, and you would have more room if you got rid of a few things, and start wondering, maybe I do have a little problem. . . . . :)

That said, three routers around here is barely enough to get you through the door of the the Tool Aficionado Club, much less the Addict's room in the back.

[Ben Rivel]

Nah, three is pretty standard actually. One for 1/4", a nice like trim router, one for all around tasks and 1/2" bits and one dedicated to a table.

[Greg R Bradley]

Three routers? Total? or is that how many you bought in the last year?

I bought some stuff at an auction of a company where I worked as a consultant for 25 years. I ended up with 60 Micrometers. Trying to decide if I should sell a few............

[Derek Cohen]

Hell, I am a hand tool guy, and have 7 routers. 10 if you include the hand powered ones! :)

Regards from Perth

Derek

[Clark Hussey]

There’s a fine line between recreational use and addiction. It looks like you are walking it.

[Prashun Patel]

You are not a tool addict until you have more routers than bits. Until then, you are just optimizing your time.

[jared herbert]

you are just getting a good start on routers or any other tools. When you have to build onto your shop to hold all of your stuff, that is when it starts to become serious. Also in my case my wife just doesnt understand the need for all of the stuff I have.

[Charles Lent]

At last count I have 12. After the first few, just like rabbits they seem to multiply.

Charley

[Frederick Skelly]

Brian, whatever you do, do not buy a hand plane or a backsaw. If you do, you'll truly be addicted.
DAMHIKT.

Fred

[Mark e Kessler]

Stop lying to yourself...you need it... lol


Welcome to the other side of the line.

I have eight. Carpentry and woodworking was my profession but retired now.

I was a tool addict too. It was great fun. Now I'm struggling with it and probably have to tell myself once a week- 'You don't need that, you're retired!'

[Tom M King]

I accepted the fact that rehab was for quitters decades ago.

[Doug Dawson]

I accepted the fact that rehab was for quitters decades ago.

Nobody likes a quitter.

[Rick Potter]

I like Prashun's thoughts on this, but I have probably over 100 bits, and nowhere near enough routers.

[Günter VögelBerg]

I just bought a medium crown construction stapler to fix my chicken run, but only because I thought it would be more useful for other applications than the fencing stapler.

[Mike Henderson]

I just bought a medium crown construction stapler to fix my chicken run, but only because I thought it would be more useful for other applications than the fencing stapler.

This is off topic, but do they make medium crown staples in lengths less than 1 1/2"? Maybe 1"? If so, where could I source them in the US?

Mike

[Tom M King]

If you mean the 7/16" wide crown, there are many, and in lengths up to 2-1/2". I use two for installing Cypress shingles. One shoots 2-1/2", and the other 2" stainless staples. Mine are Senco, but I'm sure other nail gun manufacturers make them also. I also have one that shoots 1" crown staples up to 1-1/4".

[Mike Henderson]

If you mean the 7/16" wide crown, there are many, and in lengths up to 2-1/2". I use two for installing Cypress shingles. One shoots 2-1/2", and the other 2" stainless staples. Mine are Senco, but I'm sure other nail gun manufacturers make them also. I also have one that shoots 1" crown staples up to 1-1/4".

Yes, I know they make long staples, up to 2" (or longer). I have not found 1" staples with a 7/16" crown. I have found 2" and 1 1/2" staples with a 7/16" crown.

Can you point me to 1" staples with 7/16" crown? Maybe I just don't know where to look.

Mike

[Tom M King]

google medium crown stapler, or staples. Medium crown (7/16") staples come in 15 ga., 16 ga., and 17 ga. The only 15 gauge ones I know of are the 2-1/2"

This gun shoots 7/8" to 2". There are also guns that have shorter limits.

https://www.senco.com/tools/details-page/sns41

[Tom M King]

The staples come plain steel, electrocoated galvanized, and stainless steel. I avoid the electro coated ones these days, as they aren't as good as they used to be, and go straight to stainless.

https://www.amazon.com/Senco-N13BAB-16-inch-Electro-Galvanized/dp/B000CP2M0Y

[Günter VögelBerg]

OK, regarding staples...

I just got my stapler in the mail. It is a hitachi https://www.lowes.com/pd/Hitachi-16-Gauge-7-16-in-Medium-Crown-Construction-Pneumatic-Stapler/3086579

I went to Lowes to get staples and they all come in boxes of 10000 (for about $50, depending on size). I need nowhere near this many, but looking online I cannot find them in smaller quantities. Does anyone know if I can get them in boxes of, say, 1000? Also, will other brands work in this tool?

[Derek Meyer]

A tool hobbyist could easily have 3 to 5 routers on hand for different tasks.

A tool addict is one who uses his $350 planer with spiral head as an excuse to spend $350 on a set of torque control drivers.

Not that I would know....

[Dan Rude]

Mike, found these https://www.fastenerusa.com/staples/16-gauge/7-16-crown-n-series/1-x-7-16-crown-16ga-galvanized-n13-staples-5m-jobpak.html Not sure if shipping is a killer though. I had another company, I used for some wide ones. Will have to see if I can find them again. Dan

[Mike Henderson]

Mike, found these https://www.fastenerusa.com/staples/16-gauge/7-16-crown-n-series/1-x-7-16-crown-16ga-galvanized-n13-staples-5m-jobpak.html Not sure if shipping is a killer though. I had another company, I used for some wide ones. Will have to see if I can find them again. Dan

Thanks, Dan. I appreciate you passing that on to me.

Mike

[Tom M King]

I like the Senco brand of staples much better than any of the others, or at least when it matters for them to Really hold. The Senco staples, as do their nails, have a glue on the legs that heats up as the fastener goes into the wood, and makes them, far and away, more difficult to withdraw. I bought some brand of stainless staples, that had no glue of any kind on the legs, and I'd guess the difference in holding strength to be a factor of 25.

Some other brands have some sort of adhesive on them that looks sort of like the same thing, but the difference in holding power is not much different than the plain legs.

[Mel Fulks]

I think some brands sell coated and uncoated, so I wouldn't depend on just the brand when ordering. We used to keep some of both since the coated ones worked so well they couldn't be used for anything temporary. Somebody has to make
sure they get BIG labels and are not intermixed. Even if you work alone!

[Rob Luter]

I am amused by your assertion ;)

You want to see addiction? Stop in at the hand tool forum.