Shop Built Power Feeder

[David Buchhauser]

I had been following with great interest a SMC thread by Al Ladd showing his shop built small wooden power feeder that he was developing. He had included several links to Youtube videos showing the feeder in operation. This thread seems to have disappeared. Has it been moved to another heading, or was it removed for some reason? I did not interpret his thread to be offering anything for sale, but only asking for comments to see if this was something that some of us might have interest in using. So I am just wondering what happened to it - as I thought that it was an interesting idea.
Thanks,
David

[David Buchhauser]

I'm still waiting for a response. I had hoped that maybe one of the moderators would step up and let us know what happened to this thread. A PM will be fine if you don't want to make it public.
David

[dan petroski]

I'm still waiting for a response. I had hoped that maybe one of the moderators would step up and let us know what happened to this thread. A PM will be fine if you don't want to make it public.
David
I built a power feeder a couple months ago. Works like a charm. Can’t seem to figure out how to post pictures

[al ladd]

I saw yours Dan. It was one of several inspirations for me.

Here's the thread with a photo of yours: https://sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?268159-Stock-feeder&p=2853017&highlight=#post2853017

Looks like you used a gear reduction box, --and hockey pucks?

[Bill Space]

My guess is that someone felt that thread was becoming a commercial for a product and deleted the thread.

Be interest to hear the the actual reason it disappeared...

[David Buchhauser]

My guess is that someone felt that thread was becoming a commercial for a product and deleted the thread.

Be interest to hear the the actual reason it disappeared...

So would I!

[David Buchhauser]

I built a power feeder a couple months ago. Works like a charm. Can’t seem to figure out how to post pictures

Hi Dan,
Here is the photo of your power feeder.
David


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[David Buchhauser]

My guess is that someone felt that thread was becoming a commercial for a product and deleted the thread.

Be interest to hear the the actual reason it disappeared...

Hi Bill,
I would guess that it got pulled because he is not a "Friend of the Creek". So apparently if someone has the "Friend of the Creek" status (cost is $50 per year) then this type of post content would be "overlooked" by the moderators. There is a guy who posts a lot under the cnc machine heading who very blatantly solicits business right in his posts, and lists his contact information for sales right in his posts. I don't think that Al was trying to sell anything or solicit business, particularly since he does not have a finished product to sell. My advise to Al would be that if he does eventually get his power feeder to market, spent the $50 to become a "Friend of the Creek" and take advantage of the benefits and perks of that status.
David

[al ladd]

The rule is: Posts made by Members with direct commercial affiliation, and with the apparent intent of using Saw Mill Creek for the sole purpose of promoting a product or service will be subject to removal.

I don't think my post was for the "sole purpose" of promoting my still-in-development product. Apparently the removal of my post is still under consideration by the moderators. Perhaps they were bothered when I commented about the comparative qualities of the Co-matic feeder (which a sponsor sells) and my prototype. Ironically, I also posted that that sponsor has theirs on sale this summer. Weird I'd be censored for "promoting my product" (I don't have one yet!) when I let people know the "competitor's" is on sale....

I'm awaiting response from moderators about the details of how I can post within the rules.

I freely admit I have plans to sell power feeder kits. But my intent with SMC at this juncture is to solicit feedback about how the feeder could be improved, and whether people found it interesting.

I'm a full time woodworker who's ventured off into waters unchartered by me, developing and marketing a woodworking tool. I'd like to think this forum could support that sort of endeavor, at least its preliminary stages, and I'm happy to carefully tailor my use of the Forum to comply with its rules.

[Frank Pratt]

I'm not sure about this forum, but it's pretty common for a post by a new member containing a youtube link to get pulled. Something about not having people use a forum just to drive traffic to their youtube channel.

[al ladd]

That's certainly a reasonable policy, to have a waiting period before new members can post links to their own videos. But that's not SMC's policy.

But besides that, I've been a SMC member and occasional contributor since 2005 (professional woodworker since 1982).

[David Buchhauser]

The rule is: Posts made by Members with direct commercial affiliation, and with the apparent intent of using Saw Mill Creek for the sole purpose of promoting a product or service will be subject to removal.



I'm awaiting response from moderators about the details of how I can post within the rules.

Good luck with that Al!! I would be incredibly surprised of any of them actually responded to you.
David

[Zac wingert]

I’d like to see the thread re-opened. Honestly, never saw it prior to being shut down, but sounds interesting. Hopefully the mods will determine it is within the rules.

I agree that without rules rules this forum could turn to garbage. So, no disrespect intended. Thanks

[David Buchhauser]

Hi Zac,
I agree with you 100 percent. But I am afraid that most of the moderators have their best interest at heart and don't want to "make waves". As I said, I would be very surprised if any of these guys have the courage to address this issue. They probably just wish it would "die a natural death" and go away. And meanwhile, they let some of the other "preferred" members violate the rules with no repercussions.
David

[dan petroski]

Boy I am logged in and it says I don’t have access to this page when I try to open the pic. I have a lot of trouble with this site and I know most of it is my computer ineptitude..used to be able to post pics and can’t figure it out any more..just built a blade jointer for the sawminn but it could be adapted to a vertical bandsaw easily.
just had a hip replaced so I’ve got time fo play on this computer 😄 Dan

[Frank Pratt]

Boy I am logged in and it says I don’t have access to this page when I try to open the pic. I have a lot of trouble with this site and I know most of it is my computer ineptitude..used to be able to post pics and can’t figure it out any more..just built a blade jointer for the sawminn but it could be adapted to a vertical bandsaw easily.
just had a hip replaced so I’ve got time fo play on this computer  Dan

You don't have access to images and some other forum features unless you pay the $6/year to become a contributor.

[David Buchhauser]

You don't have access to images and some other forum features unless you pay the $6/year to become a contributor.

Hi Dan,
Yes - the rules changed around the beginning of May. I think you can post pictures, you just can't see then unless you become a contributor.
David

[Keith Outten]

I don't know who removed the thread in question but the rules here prevent anyone from participating in any thread or discussion that involves a product or service that they have a commercial interest. Even though the product in question is in a research mode it was announced that it would be available for sale hence its a commercial product.

Gary Campbell has been a Sponsor/Advertiser here for some time, I failed to upgrade his account title which is my error not his. At some point in time I expect Gary will provide me with a banner graphic so it can be included in our rotation, at this time it doesn't seem to be a priority. I changed his title this morning to Sponsor which indicates he has permission to promote his products here and provide tech support.

The comment concerning whether a Moderator is afraid to answer a question is laughable. All of you know that our Staff here has no fear when it comes to moderation :). In the Summer season our schedules often include vacation time like most of you and our Staff is often at less then normal levels. One of our Moderators is currently in Europe. We also get involved with our own projects on occasion so that can affect the time period that a variety of threads are reviewed. Personally I currently have several projects in the works, I just finished a rather large exterior sign, I have a small sign in my CNC machine this morning and a huge commercial building to bid today that would be several months work.

Just a reminder: We do stretch the rules considerably in our Lumber Yard Forum because it is not publicly accessible and its a good place to gather information that would never be allowed in any of our primary forum areas. If in doubt you can always send a Private Message to me and ask......Hey Keith can I post.....?

I hope you are all having a great Summer, mine has been very hectic so far and the temperatures way to hot :)

[Dennis Peacock]

I am the moderator that pulled the original thread. I'm working 3 jobs right now and my time is extremely limited and I haven't had time to respond to most anything. So please accept my apology for not getting back in a more timely manner.
I don't make the rules here but I do help the forum sections stick to the guidelines as so laid out in the SMC Terms Of Service.

AL,
If you want a more direct answer to your questions...Please reach out to Keith Outten as he is the site owner/admin. I'm just a volunteer here. :)

[Frederick Skelly]

Just to defend the Moderators a bit here..... When I saw Mr Lad's original post, I read it as a "Hey, Im going to be selling these feeders soon, give me some feedback" and interpreted it as a "pre-advertizement". And I thought that crossed the line. But when others were interested and the thread stayed open, I thought it was just me and shut up.

Ive been here about 5 years and Ive seen the Mods have delete similar things before. I dont believe they were singling out Mr. Lad or ignoring Mr. Buchhauser. They were following SMC precedents. The Mods work for free and are a big reason this is such a great place.

I agree with you about Gary Campbell's posts. I always thought they were ads, but when they showed up repeatedly, I figured there was something I didnt know. Turns out there was. Thanks to Keith for clarifying and thanks to Gary for being a sponsor!

Fred

[David Buchhauser]

I don't know who removed the thread in question but the rules here prevent anyone from participating in any thread or discussion that involves a product or service that they have a commercial interest. Even though the product in question is in a research mode it was announced that it would be available for sale hence its a commercial product.

Gary Campbell has been a Sponsor/Advertiser here for some time, I failed to upgrade his account title which is my error not his. At some point in time I expect Gary will provide me with a banner graphic so it can be included in our rotation, at this time it doesn't seem to be a priority. I changed his title this morning to Sponsor which indicates he has permission to promote his products here and provide tech support.

The comment concerning whether a Moderator is afraid to answer a question is laughable. All of you know that our Staff here has no fear when it comes to moderation :). In the Summer season our schedules often include vacation time like most of you and our Staff is often at less then normal levels. One of our Moderators is currently in Europe. We also get involved with our own projects on occasion so that can affect the time period that a variety of threads are reviewed. Personally I currently have several projects in the works, I just finished a rather large exterior sign, I have a small sign in my CNC machine this morning and a huge commercial building to bid today that would be several months work.

Just a reminder: We do stretch the rules considerably in our Lumber Yard Forum because it is not publicly accessible and its a good place to gather information that would never be allowed in any of our primary forum areas. If in doubt you can always send a Private Message to me and ask......Hey Keith can I post.....?

I hope you are all having a great Summer, mine has been very hectic so far and the temperatures way to hot :)

Hi Keith,
Thanks for clearing that up! Just out of curiosity, what are the requirements (and cost) to becoming a SMC sponsor? I have not been able to find any information at this site, although perhaps I have overlooked it.
David