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John TenEyck
06-10-2019, 5:43 PM
I ordered a Woodland Mills HM-130 Woodlander this morning and will pick it up tomorrow at the Buffalo, NY warehouse which is only 20 miles from my house. I debated the pros and cons of spending the extra money on the trailer option, which led to spending even more to get the ramps and winch package, but I think it's the best option for my needs and situation.

I'll post some photos and comments of the assembly process as it happens later this week. I have a few nice 22" walnut logs to give it test run on and can't wait.

John

Tom M King
06-10-2019, 7:20 PM
I was just looking at a video of that one last night. I had never heard of that brand before you mentioned it. Nice toy!!! I know you'll have fun with it.

david privett
06-10-2019, 8:22 PM
may I suggest not practicing with the walnut there is a lot to learn if you have never ran one.

Michael Todrin
06-11-2019, 6:37 AM
Looks like a nice mill John. I am excited for you. Please let us know how you like it.

John TenEyck
06-11-2019, 9:36 AM
may I suggest not practicing with the walnut there is a lot to learn if you have never ran one.

I'm hoping you folks will help educate me, so please do. What pitfalls should I be aware of? A friend recently built a bandsaw mill and he reports having very little trouble from the get-go, and one would sure expect there would be lots of issues with a homebuilt unit combined with a new user. So maybe that has jaded me into thinking this is going to be far easier than it looks watching the videos. Any advise is appreciated.

And if anyone has actually drawings of a shop built sharpener I'd be very grateful to get them. I'd rather not reinvent the wheel. I see lots of YouTube videos and I'm sure I can replicate what people are showing, but it would be far easier to work of actual drawings or at least sketches and parts list.

Meanwhile, I'm biding my time untl the Noon to 3PM window to pickup the mill. Excited? Just a little.

John

Martin Siebert
06-11-2019, 8:17 PM
Very glad to hear you got a new band mill on the way!!!! Keep us posted and forget about how hard it is to run or how easy it is to mess up...I found neither to be true. Wood is wood and you will only learn by running the machine. Might want to cut down a few pine trees or whatever tree you might use the boards off of that is common to your area or one that you have easy access to and mill two or three logs of that just to get the hang of it...after the first one I bet money you will be clamping up one of those walnut logs and going for it!!! Best of luck and keep us posted sir.

Edit: another way to look at it is that if a hillbilly like me can do it.......anyone can!!!!

david privett
06-12-2019, 8:23 AM
have you gotten yourself a peavey or a good cant hook yet you will need one for rolling the log. Not a timber jack they look similar but not interchangeable tools.

John TenEyck
06-12-2019, 10:38 AM
have you gotten yourself a peavey or a good cant hook yet you will need one for rolling the log. Not a timber jack they look similar but not interchangeable tools.

I had one peavey already to use with my very manual chainsaw mill. But I bought another from Woodland Mills because it can be clamped to their trailer for transport, and so that a friend can help roll logs if/when I have help. I bought the ramp and winch system, too, so getting logs onto the mill should be a low effort task now. And I plan to try rolling logs/cants with the winch, like Norwood shows on one of their videos using a cant hook on the end of the winch cable. I'm hoping the winch will make muscle part of the job much easier.

John

John TenEyck
06-12-2019, 10:51 AM
Very glad to hear you got a new band mill on the way!!!! Keep us posted and forget about how hard it is to run or how easy it is to mess up...I found neither to be true. Wood is wood and you will only learn by running the machine. Might want to cut down a few pine trees or whatever tree you might use the boards off of that is common to your area or one that you have easy access to and mill two or three logs of that just to get the hang of it...after the first one I bet money you will be clamping up one of those walnut logs and going for it!!! Best of luck and keep us posted sir.

Edit: another way to look at it is that if a hillbilly like me can do it.......anyone can!!!!

One of the guys I admired most in my corporate days used to call himself a hillbilly who went to college! I'm sure we'd get along well, Martin. I picked up the mill and trailer crates at the Buffalo warehouse yesterday afternoon. There were lots of crates getting ready to be shipped and I saw several chippers being loaded on a semi while I waited for my stuff to be loaded. This is their US distribution center so it's probably not surprising to see their stuff to ship out nearly every day.

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With about 3" to spare on each side the guys loaded my two crates onto the trailer.

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The trailer and ramp crates unpacked on my garage floor. Everything was beautifully packed. And I'm blown away with how robust the parts are and how well machined and welded they are. Most stuff is galvanized.

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I'm excited to start putting parts together. Some assembly required!

John

Tony Roun
06-12-2019, 10:57 AM
I'm excited for you John! Based on your experience with re-sawing lumber on your bandsaw, and your chainsaw milling, you are well equipped with the knowledge to hit the ground running. I had limited experience, and find the actual cutting to be the easiest part. For me, the hard part has been all of the logistics of getting the logs on the mill, leveled, rotated, clamped, etc with it being completely manual. I am going to make some much needed upgrades to make these aspects of the milling more enjoyable.

John TenEyck
06-12-2019, 8:54 PM
Well, at least you have a tractor, Tony. Regardless though, you are right, milling is the easy part, and it should be even easier once I get the bandsaw mill up and running. Getting the logs to and onto the mill is by far the hardest part. Of course, when you hit metal 3 or 4 times in a log milling is a lot less fun, too.

I had a few hours this afternoon to start putting the sawhead together. I'll start by saying Woodland Mills does a fantastic job of packing everything safely and in making unpacking easy. On of the only things that is preassembled at the factory is the actual sawhead and motor. You can see it here in the crate now that most of the other parts have been removed.

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The directions are easy to follow, too. Each step gives a list of exactly which fasteners are needed and how many, and the instructions and drawings show what needs to be done. So nice to follow directions written in clear English by people who have actually put their product together. The crate is very cleverly designed, and makes removing the sawhead easy even for one person. the front of the metal crate unbolts from the rest and folds down onto some 8" tall beams. After putting down some cardboard you just tip the sawhead forward and lower it onto the cardboard, then slide the whole thing out.

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All the parts needed are bagged in clearly labeled bags when necessary.

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After installing the front posts up through the mating tubes in the sawhead and bolting on the lower carriage assemblies (also factory assembled) you simply stand up the whole unit. I did this alone w/o difficulty and I'm not a big or young guy.

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Just following along with the directions I installed the rear posts, the top yoke, , the very cool looking lube tank, the dashboard, and lift assembly. This is where I was before I had to go tend to other chores, ie - things my wife needed.

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Rain is forecast for much of the next several days so I'm not sure how much more will get done on the sawhead. Not much more to do on it actually. But I have the trailer parts in my garage and will put that together if the weather is poor. It all has to get done so it really doesn't matter which I work on.

John

Martin Siebert
06-13-2019, 7:36 AM
Wow!!! Thanks for the photos. What you need now {if you don't already have it} is a stock pile of logs to mill!! I remember the very first day I had my mill set up and ready to go...I milled logs for 12 hours straight, it was so much fun. Of course sticker stacking it all wasn't quite as much fun. I think I spent almost as much time the next day cutting up all the stickers to stack with. The fun is about to begin for you Mr. TenEyck!!!!!

david privett
06-13-2019, 8:22 AM
let the fun begin, does your tractor have a front end loader or a back hoe attachment? that will make it more fun easier.

John TenEyck
06-13-2019, 9:01 AM
let the fun begin, does your tractor have a front end loader or a back hoe attachment? that will make it more fun easier.


What tractor? No, no tractor, nor any other easy means of moving logs. This is what I use. It will pick up a log up to about 30" diameter, one at a time of course, and will go behind my car or an ATV. I don't own an ATV, but my next door neighbor does and let's me use it whenever I want.

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My chainsaw mill can handle some big logs, and will still be the only way I'll have for cutting slabs over 22" wide. Thought you might enjoy a picture of it with the largest log I ever had on it.

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Same neighbor, who owns every machine imaginable at his gentleman's farm 120 miles distant (unfortunately) brought these two red oak logs to me. He wanted a 3" thick mantel for his boss; the rest was mine. We parbuckled it up onto my mill using his truck.

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There was some beautiful wood in those logs.

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This was the slab for the mantle:

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And this is the stack of lumber and slabs I got out of them.

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The milling part of this is going to get a lot easier but the schlepping part still needs work.

John

John K Jordan
06-13-2019, 12:05 PM
...I don't own an ATV, but my next door neighbor does and let's me use it whenever I want.


You have great neighbors!

Keep the pictures coming. When you get the mill up and running you might start a separate thread so the messages and new pictures aren't buried deep in the thread. Perhaps add a link to the end of the new thread so someone reading could continue following seamlessly?

Tony Zona
06-13-2019, 7:42 PM
Mr. Jordan, I use that little hickey to the left of the thread listing to hop right to the recent posts. And I’m hoping for a bunch of pictures, too.

Mr. TenEyck, too bad you can’t drag that thing here to northwestern PA. I’m betting I could scare up an audience.

Have fun with it.

I hired a portable band sawyer to come in a few years back when I had my woods logged. I helped him and his wife, and it was a lot of fun. At the end of the day I was tired, but it was a rewarding way of getting tired.

John K Jordan
06-13-2019, 11:10 PM
Mr. Jordan, I use that little hickey to the left of the thread listing to hop right to the recent posts. And I’m hoping for a bunch of pictures, too.


Thanks. I have no problem finding and following the messages. I was thinking about others who might not now be following this "I'm in the game" thread about deciding and buying but would be interested in reading about the sawmill itself. A separate thread with a more descriptive title on initially firing up and operating the mill might catch their eye while the same messages deep in this thread might be missed.

Operating a small mill is far more work than some realize. I've had friends offer to come help just for fun and after a mere 4-5 hours of handling the logs, mill, and boards they sometimes look like they've been beaten with a stick! I agree that it is rewarding - I love to see what's inside the log and love the magic of creating lumber. I also enjoy analyzing the log and deciding how to saw it. BTW, I grew up south of Pittsburgh and we passed through your area to visit relatives in Erie. This was in the 1950s and '60s.

JKJ

Jason Mikits
06-14-2019, 7:36 AM
Congratulations John!!!! I switched from CSM to bandmill (lt15) about 7 years ago. You are going to be amazed at how much faster cutting goes.

I'm not too far from you and have also been to that warehouse to buy a stump grinder. I'd suggest you get a logrite cant hook or 2.... They are great for parbuckling and to have at the mill. Logrite really makes a nice hook. Pm me if you're looking for logs/wood.

I've been on the fence about getting a Woodmizer CBN sharpener. Financially it doesn't make sense, but for convenience it may be worth it to me.

John TenEyck
06-14-2019, 1:20 PM
Good idea, John. I'll start a new thread with the rest of the build and initial start up. At this point the sawhead and carriage are as I last left off since it was raining yesterday. I spent the afternoon starting on putting the trailer together. There must be 500 bolts! Talk about an erector set for adults.

John

John K Jordan
06-14-2019, 3:00 PM
There must be 500 bolts! Talk about an erector set for adults.


Yikes. Let's see, what to use: impact driver or hand wrench, impact driver or ....

The Woodmizer came on a single pallet with the head assembled, requiring only to bolt together the bed sections and set and latch the head in place. But I didn't get the trailer.

Remember to recheck the tightness occasionally! (or maybe use locktite) I've had big bolts loosen on the backhoe frame.

JKJ

John TenEyck
06-14-2019, 10:22 PM
Yikes. Let's see, what to use: impact driver or hand wrench, impact driver or ....

The Woodmizer came on a single pallet with the head assembled, requiring only to bolt together the bed sections and set and latch the head in place. But I didn't get the trailer.

Remember to recheck the tightness occasionally! (or maybe use locktite) I've had big bolts loosen on the backhoe frame.

JKJ

Woodland lists the required torque for every both type used. The only way I have to do that is manually with a torque wrench. Must have torqued well over 200 bolts/nuts today on the trailer. The weather was nice this afternoon so I finished putting the rest of the parts on the sawhead/carriage, then went back to the trailer. The bulk of it's done now; just have to put the tongue and hitch, wiring and lights, and a few minor things on it still. Then I'll need to make a gantry crane to hoist the sawhead up off the ground so I can roll the trailer under it.

Selling a "some assembly required" kit limits how long any of the components can be in order to keep shipping costs reasonable. The upside is a very attractive price. The downside is having to use a lot of nuts and bolts to end up with a straight and rigid finished product. The Woodlander trailer is well designed, the factory welded subassemblies are perfect, everything is very robust, and all the parts fit together without having to horse or pry on them. Just a lot of nuts/bolts to tighten.


John

Jerry Olexa
06-15-2019, 2:03 PM
Wow, quite an undertaking!!! The first cuts look v good....Keep us informed...