Festool Domino 700 series / and vacumn

[Paul Girouard]

So if one drinks the Koolaide , what vac would one get to go along with the 700 series Domino?

[Mike Henderson]

If you're going to use it in your shop, not on the job, I'd just hook my shop vac to it.

Mike

[Paul Girouard]

It will be a job site tool, so it will need a vacumn to travel with it.

[Michelle Rich]

The 700 will not produce tons of sawdust..I'd bet any of them would be adequate..but down the road, what else would you add & need a vac to accomodate?

[Jamie Buxton]

I really like tool-triggered vacs. That is, the vac automatically turns on any time you pull the trigger on the tool. If you're inserting a lot of dominos, you're probably turning the tool on and off a lot as you reposition it. Another good thing to look for is a flexible vacuum hose. You're moving the tool around a lot, and it is aggravating if the hose is steering the tool. "Flexible hose" usually translates to "smaller diameter"; a 2 1/2" shop vac hose is too stiff.

[Alan Lightstone]

I have a Festool CT mini vac hooked up to my SCMS and it does a pretty good job, and is pretty small. Would work well with the Domino 700.

But that would mean REALLY drinking the Koolaid. It's a slippery slope.

[Jared Sankovich]

I hook mine up to a $99 ridgid vac. Works great.

[Mike King]

I'm pretty saturated with Koolaid. The Festool CT26 is a great vacuum, and after experiencing the dust extraction with their sanders, routers, and domino, I wouldn't be without it. If you've not bought the domino yet, I believe Festool dealers offer a bundle discount for buying both at the same time...

Mike

[Paul Girouard]

Looking at this set up. Do you have the 500 or 700 series?




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Where getting it for a White Oak job , mitered casing , thinking the 500 would be better for trim/ cabinet work and the 700 more for gate and door building?

Thoughts?








I'm pretty saturated with Koolaid. The Festool CT26 is a great vacuum, and after experiencing the dust extraction with their sanders, routers, and domino, I wouldn't be without it. If you've not bought the domino yet, I believe Festool dealers offer a bundle discount for buying both at the same time...

Mike

[Paul Girouard]

Not sure why the photo won’t show up ?? 410111

[Joe Hendershott]

I have the 700 and use it with the Festool Midi. Not so big as the 26 but holds a fair amount. The tool triggered switch is a must have for me, just makes life easier.

[Jacob Mac]

Looking at this set up. Do you have the 500 or 700 series?




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Where getting it for a White Oak job , mitered casing , thinking the 500 would be better for trim/ cabinet work and the 700 more for gate and door building?

Thoughts?

700 has a conversion kit allowing you to use the smaller cutterheads. So 700 is more versatile. But it costs a lot more, too.

Personally, I would get the 700. I have the smaller domino, and I like it. But for beds, doors, etc I wish I had the 700.

[Jared Sankovich]

700 has a conversion kit allowing you to use the smaller cutterheads. So 700 is more versatile. But it costs a lot more, too.

Personally, I would get the 700. I have the smaller domino, and I like it. But for beds, doors, etc I wish I had the 700.

This..

I have the 700 with the senica adaptor, 4mm to 14mm dominos. I see no real need for the 500 when one can do the job of both.

[Jim Becker]

Domino clears pretty well from the way the port is designed, so even a small extractor should do a reasonably good job with it. I personally use my Festool CT26, but know that even the small Ridgid vacs I have around for cleanup would do the job with the proper Festool hose used. The advantage to "the system" is that the vac is keyed on with the tool and there are advantages with portability when the vac and the systainers can lock together for transport. But if you feel more inclined for a different brand of extractor...no problem. It's more about the hose as I noted.

[Paul Girouard]

This..

I have the 700 with the senica adaptor, 4mm to 14mm dominos. I see no real need for the 500 when one can do the job of both.


There’s a few reasons , my two subs who started the trim out had to move to other projects , we are blessed currently with to much work all in the same phase of construction, trim
out.So they had to go to other projects.
They both had Dominos and we’ve started that way so I’d like to carry that thru this project.

It’s all Rift saw. White Oak , pre finished . The side trim is net 2 1/2” wide , the head trim
us net 3 1/2” wide so odd mitered a 55 and 35 . Yes this is odd , but whstbthe architect and client want.

2 1/2” is minimal for biscuits , easy to run the cut out of the miter and biscuits really aren’t that good at alignment.

pocket screws would be hard to control the meters being drug past perfect alignment for the miter , there’s no shoulder like in your photo.

The Domino should / has aligned the faces quite well so why change now? To something that won’t work as well.

[Paul Girouard]

This..

I have the 700 with the senica adaptor, 4mm to 14mm dominos. I see no real need for the 500 when one can do the job of both.


Feed back i’ve Gotten from three other guys who have 500’s is the 700 is really big and generally , unless you built a lot of gates or doors the 700 would be over kill and well just a bigger tool to use.

[Reinis Kanders]

I like the alignment pins on 700 much better than those paddles on 500.

[Mike Kreinhop]

Feed back i’ve Gotten from three other guys who have 500’s is the 700 is really big and generally , unless you built a lot of gates or doors the 700 would be over kill and well just a bigger tool to use.

I have both, because they each have their good points, and the 700 is bigger and heavier than the 500.

[Randy Heinemann]

All the Festool CT's have the same power. The Mini and Midi have a little less power but I'm sure would handle either the 500 or 700XL also and certainly be more portable. I am a huge supporter of Festool's vacs. I believe they beat any others I've used over the years. Cutting a Domino mortise may produce a lot of dust but it does produce chips that build up quickly so a good vac is important for accurate work.

I would never use the 700 for smaller, 500 size work. The two are really different tools and designed to do different size projects. I'm sure that you would see that once you start trying to use the 700 with adapter and 500 bits. Trying to keep the 700 in place when you doing smaller work could be difficult. I own both and rarely use the 700. However, I use the 500 much more and wouldn't trade it for the 700 on the work I do with it. I understand that others disagree, but I believe in using the tool designed for the job and the 700 just isn't designed with the smaller projects in mind; and I mean like smaller drawers, boxes. I did all my work with the 500 until I finally broke down and bought the 700. The 500 will do much larger projects than you might think.

[Paul Girouard]

All the Festool CT's have the same power. The Mini and Midi have a little less power but I'm sure would handle either the 500 or 700XL also and certainly be more portable. I am a huge supporter of Festool's vacs. I believe they beat any others I've used over the years. Cutting a Domino mortise may produce a lot of dust but it does produce chips that build up quickly so a good vac is important for accurate work.

I would never use the 700 for smaller, 500 size work. The two are really different tools and designed to do different size projects. I'm sure that you would see that once you start trying to use the 700 with adapter and 500 bits. Trying to keep the 700 in place when you doing smaller work could be difficult. I own both and rarely use the 700. However, I use the 500 much more and wouldn't trade it for the 700 on the work I do with it. I understand that others disagree, but I believe in using the tool designed for the job and the 700 just isn't designed with the smaller projects in mind; and I mean like smaller drawers, boxes. I did all my work with the 500 until I finally broke down and bought the 700. The 500 will do much larger projects than you might think.


Good to know Randy , and all you others for your input.

I think we’ll go with the 500 and the mid sized vacumn.
Although so far on the Festool site or amazon I haven’t found a package deal for a 500 with a vac , just the 700 I linked earlier.

Thanks again guys!

[Bob Hinden]

I used my old CT22 with my Domino 700, works fine. I suspect any of the vac's would work.

I use the 700 with the seneca small mortice kit. Allows me to use it from 1/2" and up.

[marty fretheim]

Good to know Randy , and all you others for your input.

I think we’ll go with the 500 and the mid sized vacumn.
Although so far on the Festool site or amazon I haven’t found a package deal for a 500 with a vac , just the 700 I linked earlier.

Thanks again guys!

Which Festool site are you looking at ? Go to the page of the Domino you want, and on the right it should give you the option of including a vac for 10% off. That screen shot from amazon was exactly Festools price for the 700 plus 10% off the vac. You only get a discount on the vac.

Marty

[Randy Heinemann]

There are a number of Festool vendors that sell online. They should all sell the same Festool products at the same prices as Festool products are not sold with discounts except for those authorized by Festool like the CT/Tool combo price. One is Festoolproducts.com (which is ToolNut.com). Festoons-Online.com is another. Beaver Industrial Tools is another. Most of them should have free shipping. I tend to look for online tool vendors other than Amazon because they give great service also and the prices are the same anyway.

[Wojciech Tryc]

So if one drinks the Koolaide , what vac would one get to go along with the 700 series Domino?
Either Midi or CT26 will work well. Amount of sawdust produced by the 700 is rather small; your choice should be driven by other tools you will attach to it in the future.
Sanders and even TS55 will work well with either, routers, Kapex would require CT26 at least.

[Prashun Patel]

I am sure you will be happy with the 500. But let me add as someone who actually does a lot of smaller work with the 700 and the Seneca adapter and 5mm bit, It works fine. I owned the 500 before and have used both. I think the claims of the 700 not being appropriate for smaller work are theoretical statements and just not true. The 500 is only marginally more comfortable than the 700 in most cases.

I am speaking as a hobbyist, not a pro who may be doing this every day and might appreciate the marginal difference. But then again, a pro would probably appreciate the ability to use big and deep tenons for tables and the like.

[Sean Nagle]

I have the 700 and find it awkward for smaller work. What I would have preferred is the Goldilocks 600 model.

[Paul Girouard]

I have the 700 and find it awkward for smaller work. What I would have preferred is the Goldilocks 600 model.


LOL, We settled on the 500 with a Midi vac and a sustainer full of Domino’s!

When does the Goldilock’s 600 get released?? ;-)) It sounds like the perfect tool!

[Randy Heinemann]

Seems like the best choice for the work you plan to use it for. I have never regretted buying the Domino. It is a great tool and the 500 works well for smaller work like you indicated you are doing.

[Sean Nagle]

When does the Goldilock’s 600 get released?? ;-)

I would have bought a Domino years before I did if Festool made the Goldilocks model instead. I ended up going with the 700 because I had an entry door to build. I never did build the door, but as I was designing and planning, it became clear that for 1-3/4" door rails and stiles, doubled up 10mm Dominos are a better way to go than 14mm Dominos.

A model 600 that handles 6mm to 12mm Dominos and has the ergonomics of the 700 would be the Goldilocks model. Are you listening Festool?

[James Brown]

I'm glad I got the 700 because I've used it for some big projects, e.g. chunky benches for the waiting room of a Brazilian Jiu Jitsu gym (lots of doug fir 4x4s). I have the Seneca adapter and plate and it works fine, but it is definitely too heavy for smaller work. Then I built a Domino Dock for it per the Ramon Valdez plans. This allows you to bring the work to the tool and takes the weight out of the equation for a lot of smaller work. Still haven't ruled out the 500, but I don't feel an urgent need for it with this setup. YMMV.

--Jim

[mreza Salav]

Started with the 500 but then got 700 and sold the 500. I like the style of 700 more (although not its weight). Overall, it's obvious between the two which one I would choose.
The adapters for 700 for using smaller bits works absolutely fine.