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Lee Schierer
05-05-2019, 6:54 PM
I'm currently building a cabinet that will have two inset doors. The solid doors will be made of 3/4" hickory and will be 14 wide x 28 tall. I'm wondering what the load capacity for Blumotion self closing hinges is. Do I need two hinges per door or three because of the weight and or height. Each door will weigh about 12 pounds.

I'm also looking for a good source for blumotion self closing hinges for 3/4" thick inset doors. Hinge part numbers would be helpful.

John TenEyck
05-05-2019, 7:07 PM
You can find answers to nearly any question at Blum's website. For your door two hinges will suffice unless the weight is 15 lbs or more. If so, you'll need 3.

John

Jamie Buxton
05-05-2019, 8:34 PM
I buy Blum hinges from wwhardware.com

Ken Fitzgerald
05-05-2019, 8:48 PM
Lee,

If you do a Google search on Blum, you can go to the Blum site and download a free planning tool. With that tool, IIRC, you can put in the specifications and it will make recommendations. I used it on the hall closet doors I built from red oak a couple years ago.

I also buy my Blum hinges from wwhardware.com.

John TenEyck
05-05-2019, 9:22 PM
I buy from wwhardware.com sometimes, too, but when I need a lot of hinges or drawer slides, AH Turf (ahturf.com) has lower prices.

John

Dave Zellers
05-05-2019, 9:55 PM
You will be fine. No way those doors would even come close to 15 lbs.

I just built doors for a kitchen sink cabinet that are 7/8" cherry and 19" wide and 29" tall. Only used 2 Blum 110° inset hinges and have no worries.

--Oops- missed where you listed the weight.

Dave Zellers
05-05-2019, 10:01 PM
12 lbs for a 3/4" door that size? That seems like an awful lot.

Edwin Santos
05-05-2019, 10:06 PM
Here is a diagram from the Blum literature that might help you. I don't know how old it is, so please go to the Blum website and double check. Their downloadable catalog should have all the info you need

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Leo Graywacz
05-05-2019, 10:10 PM
10lbs per hinge. 20lbs for 2 hinges on a door less than 40". Pretty sure you can get away with 2 hinges. I generally base mine on the length of the door, not the weight.

scott vroom
05-06-2019, 2:22 PM
I buy Blum hinges from wwhardware.com

Jamie, have you looked at WWExpress for hinges? I buy a lot of Blum 71T3550 110+ degree clip top hinges, and 715H6000 zero height cam adjustable plates. I pay $1.65 & $0.78 each for that combo at WWE; looks like wwhardware sells the same combo for $2.80 and $1.81.

Those are the only parts I compared, WWhardware may be more competitive on other items?

Leo Graywacz
05-06-2019, 3:42 PM
Jamie, have you looked at WWExpress for hinges? I buy a lot of Blum 71T3550 110+ degree clip top hinges, and 715H6000 zero height cam adjustable plates. I pay $1.65 & $0.78 each for that combo at WWE; looks like wwhardware sells the same combo for $2.80 and $1.81.

Those are the only parts I compared, WWhardware may be more competitive on other items?

Get the soft close hinges. Night and day as far as I'm concerned. Usually about $4 or so each. I only use one per door and I use a normal self close for the other door.

Justin Rapp
05-06-2019, 4:46 PM
12 lbs for a 3/4" door that size? That seems like an awful lot.

It is Hickory, it's dense and heavy wood. I am building some furniture out of hickory now because I love the look of it. It is heavy, machines like stone, not wood, and easily, depending on the density of the specific wood he's working with could easily be close to 10 pounds. Board weight calculator for Hickory of those dimensions is 6.3 to 9.9 lbs.

Lee Schierer
05-06-2019, 9:22 PM
I'm looking at these hinges:
409416

So what is the difference between the base plates with regard to the 0 mm or 3 mm
409415

Why wold I want one over the other?

johnny means
05-06-2019, 9:29 PM
The plates thickness is used to set the position of the door. A thicker plate moves the door away from the hinged side of the cabinet.

John TenEyck
05-06-2019, 9:46 PM
I'm currently building a cabinet that will have two inset doors. The solid doors will be made of 3/4" hickory and will be 14 wide x 28 tall. I'm wondering what the load capacity for Blumotion self closing hinges is. Do I need two hinges per door or three because of the weight and or height. Each door will weigh about 12 pounds.

I'm also looking for a good source for blumotion self closing hinges for 3/4" thick inset doors. Hinge part numbers would be helpful.


Blum's website will answer all your questions. For inset doors you need a full cranked hinge with a 0 mm mounting plate. For the 110° Clip Top w/ BluMotion it's P/N: B071B3750 for the screw-on type. There are several mounting plates you could use, including P/N: B175H910.

You could use a straight hinge, too, with an 18 mm mounting plate.

John

Leo Graywacz
05-06-2019, 10:02 PM
Blum's website will answer all your questions. For inset doors you need a full cranked hinge with a 0 mm mounting plate. For the 110° Clip Top w/ BluMotion it's P/N: B071B3750 for the screw-on type. There are several mounting plates you could use, including P/N: B175H910.

You could use a straight hinge, too, with an 18 mm mounting plate.

John

If you have a face frame you would use the 1/2 cranked hinge and the FF plate (arm)

https://www.hghhardware.com//ASSETS/IMAGES/ITEMS/DETAIL_PAGE/32089.jpg

William A Johnston
05-07-2019, 6:13 AM
First you must decide on your door overlay and that will determine the hinge setback and plate height you need to use. If you have a face frames cabinet Blum offers hinge plates specific to face frames and hinge plates specific to Euro cabinets.

If you want to post information about your overlay and if it is a face frame or frameless cabinet I can look at the Blum catalog and recommend a hinge plates and hinge set back for the Blumotion 110. It is a very good hinge. "I attached the Blum Catalog sheet for the 71B3750" I hope this helps you out.

Bill

Lee Schierer
05-07-2019, 8:23 AM
My doors will be 3/4" thick, 14.5" wide, 28" tall with two 3/4" x 2" x 10" stiffeners on the back to resist cupping in the future. They will weigh about 12 pounds each based on the
409424

The doors will full inset mounted in a frameless cabinet just as shown below. The hinges will be screw mounted. I want the soft close hinges so the doors won't bang when closing.
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Leo Graywacz
05-07-2019, 8:44 AM
So full crank hinges with 0mm plates. You'll need 2 per door. I usually space them at 3 1/2" on center off the cabinet. So whatever your door space (margin) is the 3 1/2" is measured from the cabinet to the door not the edge of the door to the center of the hinge. That way when you're placing your hinge plates it's a nice even number. My margin is usually 5/64". I make shims that are that thickness and use my edge sander to fit the doors into the cabinet. I use the shim to size the doors, when the shims slip in with just a bit of resistance you know you're there.

William A Johnston
05-07-2019, 3:53 PM
Leo is correct. If you use the 71B3750 Blumotion 110 degree screw on hinge use "0mm" plate 173H7100 Wood Screw Plate. Your boring distance on the cup on the door is 5mm so the center of the hinge will be 22.5mm and this will give you a reveal of 2mm which is basically 5/64". When you set the plate inside your cabinet box you will set it at 38.5mm + the thickness of your door. Most plates are set at 37mm but for the inset hinge it all changes. This will give you the margin of 5/64" like Leo was talking about. Take a look at the Brochure I posted and it will give you all the details about the hinge and set back. Like I said don't pay attention to the setback on the attached brochure because that is for your standard overlay and not an inset door.

I sure hope this helps.

Bill

Leo Graywacz
05-07-2019, 4:15 PM
I use 6mm from the edge for the 35mm cup hole and I like the 175H3100 in line plates personally. You do need a jig to drill the holes as they are hidden by the hinge when they are clipped on.

The 6mm works out to be the natural for the 2mm spacing. I've found that no matter what the hinges aren't adjusted all the same when you get them, but they are close.

Aaron Grandestaff
05-10-2019, 12:33 PM
I'm currently building a cabinet that will have two inset doors. The solid doors will be made of 3/4" hickory and will be 14 wide x 28 tall. I'm wondering what the load capacity for Blumotion self closing hinges is. Do I need two hinges per door or three because of the weight and or height. Each door will weigh about 12 pounds.

I'm also looking for a good source for blumotion self closing hinges for 3/4" thick inset doors. Hinge part numbers would be helpful.

Lee,

Thank you for using our product! It sounds like everyone on here is giving the correct advise on the proper hinge, as well as the recommended number of hinges. Please don't hesitate to reach out to me if you have any other questions.

Our catalogs are all available at Blum.com or we have a new app, Easy Assembly, for both Android and iOS that may be helpful.

If you're not finding what you need online, Blum typically has several authorized distributors in each state that stock the majority of our line.

Aaron
Blum Factory Rep