Needlework Table

[Derek Cohen]

Deleted. Will post it again later.

[Mark Rainey]

What? It disappeared? I was looking forward to a new project!

[Derek Cohen]

Hi Mark ... it will be back. I just wanted to make some changes.

Regards from Perth

Derek

[Derek Cohen]

New build. I would like to share the design to date. At this stage it is open to modifications. I am happy to hear your thoughts ... after all, that is the point of these builds - to create discussion.

So, a needlework table .. now you know my secret passion J


The brief is that the needlework table is to replace the table in the family room, where it will do duel duty for my wife and be used as a side table for coffee cups, etc. I built the existing table 30 years ago as an extension for our dining room table, and it was used until recently in the entrance hall. Now I plan to recycle the legs into a country style dining room table for my son ...


https://i.postimg.cc/MKgfLyjs/Family-Room1.jpg

This table is too high to be used as a side table. The new table will reach the underside of its rails, about the same height as the armchair arm rests. It will be as wide as the existing table ...

The planned needlework table. The top is 850mm wide. There is a 10mm overhang front and rear, and 100mm at each side.
...

https://i.postimg.cc/5NW3xzXj/1.jpg

The elevation view looks a little plain at this stage, but it is a canvas, and the intention is to inlay some bright colours later on. The legs actually splay more than they appear here as they do so 45 degrees/diagonally rather than coplanar to the front and rear.

The front of the table is bowed and has 3 drawers. Since this is a needlework table, where the contents need to be accessible. Two of the drawers will pivot from the outer sides. This will enable all drawers to be open at the same time.

The carcase is to be Hard Maple, as will be the side drawers. The centre drawer will be the same wood as the table top, but I am not decided on this yet. Possibly figured Jarrah as it will be a good contrast to bright inlay.

The underside of the drawers is coved to reduce the apparent height.

https://i.postimg.cc/HxJ2L408/1-1.jpg

The plan of the table - It looks like it needs "slimming down" in this picture, but it may be the angle at which the shot was taken ...

https://i.postimg.cc/G2ZjT8z7/2.jpg

Of note, the legs are round and tapered with the splay. Mortice-and-tenon joinery.

Some specs of the construction ...

https://i.postimg.cc/ryrjXjFv/3.jpg

Thoughts?

Regards from Perth

Derek

[William Fretwell]

I do the sewing in my house also! Have two machines!
Clearly no one is sitting at the table because of the height but if sitting next to it where will they be?
The pivoting drawers are nice except for loosing 1/3 of the space under the table top. Perhaps two layers of drawers, shallow pivoting that open right out and a normal drawer underneath that opens forward?
If you loose the middle drawer at the top layer the pivoting drawers get bigger then put the normal drawer underneath.

The splayed legs match the top overhang at the sides for visual balance.

The Shaker end tables I’m building my daughter we’re originally called sewing tables but there is no chance she will sew!

[Derek Cohen]

Thanks William. Stacked pivoting drawers (and no middle drawer) was my first model ...

https://i.postimg.cc/Cx98MT1Y/5.jpg

I moved on from this as it looked boring.

You ask where one will be sitting. The answer is "in the armchairs". The table needs to be used as an occasional (side) table as well.

Edit: mmmm .... I ran this past my wife. She prefers this version!

Regards from Perth

Derek

[Scott Winners]

It seems like as low as you are going no adult will ever be able to sit in a comfortable chair and get their legs underneath this table, correct? It is a beautiful object either way.

Will the feet stick out from under the edge of the table top? In your 2.jpg i can't tell (it is because I am an idiot) if the circles show the top of the legs in the aprons or where the bottom of the feet touch the floor. From the elevation it is clear the feet will be under the ends. I guess what I am asking is where do the feet end up on the side elevation relative to the front and rear edges of the table top. Looks fabulous from the front.

[James Pallas]

Looking good in the design stage Derek. The pivoting drawers are wonderful when design features dictate. They are however problematic in use. That curve can be troublesome. I like the idea of drawers on the sides. I would consider putting square drawers on one side and pivoting on the other if you must have pivots. I like the look of the curve in the legs and the top. You could also consider using the curved drawers opening to the back and having a shallow depth drawer or tip out in the front that would hold scissors an such, similar to the old Singer sewing machine cabinets.
Jim

[Scott Winners]

Are the legs maybe going to be made from cylinders with the feet off center from the tops kinda like this? I still get sucked in by table leg trickery. I got to go make some more mortises so I can make a table someday.

[Mel Fulks]

Derek, I'm guessing he wants the table ,too ! Please spare it !

[William Fretwell]

To answer the ‘boring’ thing if you have a central decorative front piece that unifies the drawer middles whether they swing or regular pull it alleviates ‘boring’. The edge can double as pull handles.
Sewing is a lot of small stuff so more small drawers works a lot better. The height of a reel of cotton will be one set of drawers and that is not much.

[Mike King]

I ran this past my wife. She prefers this version!

Derek
What more feedback do you need?:D

[Andrew Hughes]

Sounds like a good project Derek. The swing out drawers are something I tried this past year.
I found on my table the drawers were too sensitive to any unevenness on my floor.
Yours design might do well since it’s width is less.
I hope you go for it. Very challenging very rewarding.:)
My project is slated for a woodworking competition so I cannot post it yet.
But I can show the orphan drawers.:o If your interested in seeing them.
Good luck

[Derek Cohen]

What my wife wants is frankly near-impossible. She wants a table she can use for storing needlework items. But it must also look like a casual side table.

There is nothing exciting about a needlework table if you look at examples on the web. Generally a dumpy box. I find myself coming up with ideas to spice it up, such as the drawers, but I it feels like a collection of parts, and not an integrated whole. What is really needed is a box for her needlework, and a table for the family room.

Regards from Perth

Derek

[James Pallas]

Hah Derek, what's is that quote about, If difficult, can do it right away, if Impossible, it may take a bit longer. I was all interested and now you are going to invoke the "impossible" clause and blame it on your wife. :p
Jim

[Derek Cohen]

Hi Jim,

The design in this thread just was not doing it for me, and I am working on a new one. There is no point proceeding with a build if it feels this way. I need to finish drawing up the new design to assess it properly. It promises to add a little fun into the mix.

This is one of the benefits of posting a build here. It forces one to take a critical look at the design. I’ll be back.

Regards from Perth

Derek

[William Fretwell]

How about a three tier drawer box that is detachable. When your wife wishes to sew out it comes and slides under the table, all to hand.
You can make it larger as it’s for infrequent use in the table, when you just want a table it’s lighter to move?

[Patrick Whitehorn]

Derek,
I don't know a needlework table from a normal table, but what about changing it up a bit? Don't do the drawers, but do it as a toolbox-cum-table. That is, hinge the top and have the storage inside, perhaps using trays like those in a traditional wooden toolbox. that way the table looks like a table, but has lift-out trays to hold what your wife requires for needlework; they can be set on the top to be used as needed and then stored inside when the table top is required for side/end table use.

[James Waldron]

Derek,
I don't know a needlework table from a normal table, but what about changing it up a bit? Don't do the drawers, but do it as a toolbox-cum-table. That is, hinge the top and have the storage inside, perhaps using trays like those in a traditional wooden toolbox. that way the table looks like a table, but has lift-out trays to hold what your wife requires for needlework; they can be set on the top to be used as needed and then stored inside when the table top is required for side/end table use.

Okay, but what do you do with the three magazines, coffee cup (tea cup? G&T?) and plate of cookies (biscuits? cucumber sandwiches?) sitting on the lid????? :rolleyes:

[Patrick Whitehorn]

Okay, but what do you do with the three magazines, coffee cup (tea cup? G&T?) and plate of cookies (biscuits? cucumber sandwiches?) sitting on the lid????? :rolleyes:
You set them on the other one that he built, which is sitting on the other side of the chair <laughs>