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Bill Dufour
04-20-2019, 4:01 PM
I notice my new cabinet saw and my old unisaw have a two part cabinet. They have a 6" tall plinth on the bottom then a taller cabinet bolted on top of that. Older saw had a cast iron base plinth that may have added rigidity. I do not see the modern plinths adding any stiffness to the cabinet. Why not make the cabinet 6" taller instead?
I do see that on m y delta 12/14 saw the plinth has two factory cutouts to allow dust connections on one side or front/rear. These can be switched around by flipping the plinth upside down
Any reason not to throw out the plinth and make a new one from 8 X 8's to make dust connenction easier.
Bill D

johnny means
04-20-2019, 9:03 PM
I'd bet it was just a way to get multiple end uses out of one cabinet size.

Rod Sheridan
04-21-2019, 9:45 AM
The plinth May be a style holdover from a time before welded steel cabinets.

It may also just be a style, I don’t see them on Euro machines....Rod

Richard Coers
04-21-2019, 10:34 AM
Any time you roll and edge or have a bolted joint in sheet metal you make it more rigid. You change the harmonics as well. Just have one big sheet metal box and you make a wonderful drum with possible noise amplification characteristics. I'd suspect the early cast iron base ring was there to lower the center of gravity to add stability. That and add a nice design detail to the days when they carried an art deco theme in the design.

Bill Dufour
04-21-2019, 10:52 AM
Thinking about it some more it may also have to do with standard size metal sheets and cost for materials. Maybe 24" wide sheet is standard and the next size up is say 48? If you want a cabinet 30' tall you have a lot of waste cutting down a 48' sheet to fit. Similar to breaking down sheet goods efficiently so you use all the offcuts somewhere in the design.
I suppose they may have not been able to bend or weld wider pieces in the past. My 1950's saw cabinet is made from four pieces all welded together in the middle of each flat side. I think my 1970's saw is only one or two pieces.
Bill D

Jim Becker
04-21-2019, 10:56 AM
The plinth adds stability and rigidity as has been noted. While older saws probably had slightly heavier sheet metal than more contemporary ones, it was still sheet metal. Euro saws like Rod mentions tend to be made of heavier steel that's thicker and more structural than sheet metal. I'd characterize it more as "plate" than the sheet metal that's in the North American style saws.

Jeff Heath
04-21-2019, 11:01 AM
These plinths were made of cast iron, and the cabinets were always sheet metal. Delta used the same plinths for their shapers, too, and those sheet metal cabinets have completely different designs to them, with 2 doors, instead of one, and motor openings in different places. This way, the plinth gets bolted to any cabinet they make. Also, being cast iron, it was 'designed' to be more vibration dampening. Not my claim, and certainly not sure if it mattered, but .......

They also look cool, and styling was very important in the days when art deco cabinets, and scrolled castings, and Snowflake bandsaw guides were found on many different machines from different manufacturers. Looks were important then.

Just look at this saw from 1936 (mine). Beautiful.

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andy bessette
04-21-2019, 11:42 AM
Any time you roll and edge or have a bolted joint in sheet metal you make it more rigid...

This. It adds rigidity.

Steve Rozmiarek
04-21-2019, 12:40 PM
Because they would look silly without a plinth! ;)

Beautiful bandsaw Jeff!

Patrick Walsh
04-21-2019, 3:44 PM
I have no idea.

But man that Snowflake has me thinking. There is one local tomme right now in great shape and it’s kiloing me to not buy. First I don’t have the money at the moment. Second I don’t have a big enough shop for it. Still I’d put it in storage for a day when I do if I had the money.

Sorry thread drift, that snowflake got me all sidetracked..

andy bessette
04-21-2019, 3:56 PM
If we had bacon, we could have bacon and eggs, if we had eggs.

Lee Schierer
04-22-2019, 4:57 PM
The Plinth makes it easier for old guys to sweep out the sawdust into a dust pan.

Jeff Heath
04-22-2019, 5:56 PM
I have no idea.

But man that Snowflake has me thinking. There is one local tomme right now in great shape and it’s kiloing me to not buy. First I don’t have the money at the moment. Second I don’t have a big enough shop for it. Still I’d put it in storage for a day when I do if I had the money.

Sorry thread drift, that snowflake got me all sidetracked..

Sorry to distract you. You should buy it. Just so you know, they not only look good, but they are OUTSTANDING bandsaws. Mine is a 1936, and has 18" resaw, and once you go through them, they resaw perfectly.

Rod Sheridan
04-23-2019, 9:16 AM
Because they would look silly without a plinth! ;)

Beautiful bandsaw Jeff!

Can't argue with that...........Rod.

Bill Dufour
04-23-2019, 8:19 PM
Got it out of my truck and on my 12/14 saw the plinth is three pieces two corners and a U-shaped piece for two corners. It adds no strength. But the rolled edge of the bottom of the top base cabinet does add strength. For me the math works better if I replace the 6" plinth with 4x4's and raise it up a few more inches on a mobile base.
Bill D.