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Mike Glaze
12-07-2005, 3:47 AM
What brand is the best mini lathe?

I have started my research into the best mini lathe. I asked someone who I respect on the phone about the Jet Mini Lathe and that person recommended the Vicmarc mini lathe over the Jet mainly due to he had the opinion it had better bearings and it would last. I also read a review of the PSI Carba-Tec II that was reviewed as the best mini lathe, but that was on the Penn State Industries web site and I assume PSI stands for Penn State Industries.

So what do you guy's think is the best mini lathe made for wood working?

Thanks for any information

Mike

John Bailey
12-07-2005, 6:53 AM
Mike,

I can't help you with your lathe selection, I don't turn. However, I would like to welcome you to the "Creek." It's a great place and, although I don't turn, I do visit the Turner's Forum frequently because they seem to have more fun than some of the rest of us. They're a crazy bunch. I've recently thought maybe I should take the plunge and think about turning. I looked at the General Int. "Maxi Lathe." I don't know what the term "Maxi" means in this context, because it's a small lathe. Just seemed to be priced right and looked a little more substantial than some of the other "Mini" lathes. As you can see, I'm showing my ingnorance on the subject, but fear not, the turners will fill us both in.

Welcome to the "Creek."

John

Ken Fitzgerald
12-07-2005, 8:26 AM
Mike.....Welcome to the Creek! Like John, I don't turn...yet.....but those turners here (who'll be able to help you) do have an awful lot of fun! I've accused them of sniffing wood chips and it must be better than some of the drugs used in hospitals or bought on the street!:eek: :D Again....Welcome!

tod evans
12-07-2005, 9:16 AM
mike, welcome! no opinion on minis sorry, tod

Tom Mullane
12-07-2005, 9:33 AM
I would suggest the Jet Mini, preferably the variable speed if you can afford it.... I have both a Jet 1236 and a standard Mini... great machines...

The new Rikon seems to be having some growing pain problems and I would stay away from it for now... I know of at least 5 people who have had to return the first one they bought and 2 of them had to return the replacement...

Jim Becker
12-07-2005, 9:44 AM
"Best" is relative. Best at what cost is the real question!! For example, you won't find a better "mini" than the OneWay 1018 or 1224. But they both cost a whole lot of money over most of the other "mini" lathes. In that class, I like the Jet VS and would likely buy one.

Patrick Lane
12-07-2005, 9:49 AM
What qualifies as the best mini will depend largely on what you plan to do.
If you are wanting to teach classes or turn proffessionally(8 hours a day, every day), then the Vicmarc will probably be worth the money.

I have a Jet mini personally. I have been using it about 2 years with no problems (got it back when they were about to introduce the variable speed model, so it was cheaper!). I don't see any signs of it needing repairs or improvements (other than maybe getting bigger) anytime soon.

If you are anywhere near Australia, get a mercury :p, wish I had one of those.


Really, just get one that has #2 Morse tapers and a fairly common thread size and have fun. I don't think I would want anything much smaller than the Jet for what its worth.

If you really get into turning, your probably gonna end up buying a bigger one to go along with it (I know I am once the budget allows, well and the wife:) ).

Patrick

Bruce Shiverdecker
12-07-2005, 10:18 AM
I have no feel for the Vicmark other than the quality of their products overall, since I have never turned on one. I have owned a Jet Mini for over two years and have really given it a run.....Out of balance wood.........Big pieces.......Long pieces (Just finished 4 - 34" long 4" tapered legs on mine) and have not had ANY trouble with it. I am upgrading to the Rikon and have it weighting down the back of my van, till I'm through with some long stuff I need to finish. (Didn't spring for the extention yet.) I've used one at Woodcraft several times and the only thing I found objectionable was that the threads on the spindle were rough, but when I mounted a chuck firmly, it ran true.

Bruce

Ken Salisbury
12-07-2005, 10:36 AM
I believe if you did a poll on this question that the Jet Mini would win hands down against what else is out there. I have 2 Jet Minis, one of which has produced a couple thousand items including small bowls,etc. The variable speed version is nice but not essential.

Steven Wilson
12-07-2005, 11:28 AM
For the money, the Jet VS mini-lathe is the best. If you want a fantastic mini-lathe check out the Oneway 1018 (discontinued but there are few around), for slightly larger check out the Oneway 1224 (12"swing, 24" BC). The Vickmark (VL100) is also very good and priced between the Jet and Oneway. The one I liked but I don't see them imported anymore is the Nova Mercury (oh well).

John Hart
12-07-2005, 2:56 PM
Welcome to the Creek Mike!!! I think you'll find this family quite comfortable! Can't help you with the lathe choice....Don't have any experience with a mini of any kind......I do like VS though!

Good luck in your quest ;)

Rich Stewart
12-07-2005, 3:07 PM
I did a lot of checking around before buying my Jet mini and I never heard anybody badmouth a Jet. I have heard problems with every other one. The Jet mini is a sweet machine. Smooth, quiet, my headstock and tailstock lined up perfectly. I have been having a good time on it. So has my son. We got the VS and i really like that feature. Have fun. Welcome.

Lee DeRaud
12-07-2005, 3:24 PM
I believe if you did a poll on this question that the Jet Mini would win hands down against what else is out there. I have 2 Jet Minis, one of which has produced a couple thousand items including small bowls,etc. The variable speed version is nice but not essential.Is there any other difference between the "standard" mini and the VS?
(I'm having trouble figuring out how they get away with charging $100 just for that feature.)

Ron Ainge
12-07-2005, 4:10 PM
I own a vs Jet mini and two loder Delta lathes and I have turned on a Rikon. I really like the Jet and would not put my money into the Rikon now that I spent some time on it. I think that they have some start up problems right now that they will have to clean up if they want to be in that part of the business. I would not buy another lathe that did not have the variable speed option on it. I do not like changing the pulley speed all of the time on the Deltas that I Own. Just my 2 cents worth.

Jim Becker
12-07-2005, 6:20 PM
Is there any other difference between the "standard" mini and the VS?
(I'm having trouble figuring out how they get away with charging $100 just for that feature.)

Lee, that feature is a substantial value add to the machine. But it primarily is the only difference. If you plan on mostly spindle work, there is no need for the VS. If you plan on a lot of bowls and hollowforms, the VS is a good thing to have, both for safety and for better working conditions.

Mike Glaze
12-07-2005, 10:31 PM
Thanks to all you guy's welcoming me to the forum and for all your helpful information.

I really like hearing several of you guy's really like the Jet Mini lathe and have not had problems with them. I was really sold on the Jet mini lathe before I called this person who is a pro wood turner who recommended the Vicmarc. He did not say anything bad about the Jet mini lathe except he felt the bearings were better on other lathes. I'm not going to be turning wood for 8 hours a day for five days a week with the lathe I buy. I'm going to be making smaller projects on weekends with the lathe I buy, so based on price and what I'm going to do with it the Jet mini lathe still sounds like my best option.

Thanks again

Mike

tuffy holland
12-07-2005, 10:41 PM
What brand is the best mini lathe?

I have started my research into the best mini lathe. I asked someone who I respect on the phone about the Jet Mini Lathe and that person recommended the Vicmarc mini lathe over the Jet mainly due to he had the opinion it had better bearings and it would last. I also read a review of the PSI Carba-Tec II that was reviewed as the best mini lathe, but that was on the Penn State Industries web site and I assume PSI stands for Penn State Industries.

So what do you guy's think is the best mini lathe made for wood working?

Thanks for any information

Mike
Mike
I have three Jet mini lathes. I have made over 2000 pens on my lathe and the only problem was a loose bolt that took 2 minutes to fix. My wife lathe has made over 1000 pens and is still rulling good. I bought a variable speed one recently and think I would recommend it over the cheaper belt unit as it is so easy to change speed. Also I have a Jet repair shop within 50 miles.
Tuffy holland

Dick Parr
12-08-2005, 1:37 AM
Welcome to the Creek Mike. I have to agree with Ken as I have tried a couple and still love my Jet Mini the best.

Mike Meyer
01-09-2009, 10:39 AM
My two cents -- Being new to the "Creek" and turning in general, and after way too long a search for the "Perfect Mini Lathe" which by the way doesn't exist. My criteria was for bowl turning only and I had a space issue. Based on price and components I chose the Steel City Variable -- seems to be almost like the Jet but less expensive. I LOVE IT! I have it mounted on a cheap grinder stand and I get NO vibration from bowls to 6 inches (the largest I 've tried so far). Needless to say, I've sure most of the name brands mini's are good, this one just works for me and works WELL!

Jeff Nicol
01-09-2009, 10:56 AM
I have a Steel City mini also that works wonderfully and is very quiet and smooth running! For the almost $200 price difference it was easy for me to make the decision. Now Steel City has a new one out that has the solid granite ways, I would like to see one of those. A little more money but still cheaper than the Jet. Jet is a fine machine but, Oneway is super, so it all comes down to money. I have an old junker cheapo chinese made lathe that had had 5 years of hard turning on it and the bearings are still the same and not a squeak out of them. It is just like buying a car or truck, what is in a name, most of them all have the same capabilities and will last as long as you want them to with proper maintenance.

So if money is no object by the Rolls Royce, if you are pinching pennies the Steel city VS is hard to beat!

Good luck,

Jeff

Randy Schaffer
01-09-2009, 12:12 PM
I cannot give you any experience based specifics but I was in exactly the same place as you about 2 months ago.

I was strongly considering the Carba-tec from PSI. I kept reading and asking other turners (mostly on this forum) and finally decided on the Jet 1220VS. I kept upgrading to the larger sized benchtop over the quite small Carba-tec. The Jet mini or Rikon 70-100 almost made my cut, but I decided for the relatively small (that is a loaded term in turning I have found out) additional investment the 1220 would be a better choice for the long term.

alex carey
01-09-2009, 1:40 PM
I have the general international maxi 25-200. It's more expensive than the other 12" lathes but it is variable speed, it has a turning headstock and the outboard lets you turn up to 17". The earlier models had some kinks with the motor but now it seems to turn just fine. I'd consider that one if it's in the price range.

If not that one, you can't go wrong with a jet. I have turned on a small Jet and a small Delta, I liked the Jet more. Can't say anything else about other small lathes.

alex

Billy Tallant
01-09-2009, 1:55 PM
Mike,

Welcome to the forum. I was in your shape a couple of months ago. Trying to read up on every mini lathe out there. I purchased a used Jet mini lathe. I'm turning small objects on the weekends. Works great... I would highly recommend the Jet mini to anyone. The variable speed would definately be nice, but it is really easy to change the belts on the Jet. Looking forward to seeing your future turnings once you make a decision.

Scott Conners
01-09-2009, 2:12 PM
+1 vote for the Jet mini. I *LOVE* mine, with the extension and a good stand it's way more machine than I imagined. I opted to save the money on the VS and buy tools instead, very glad I did. The mini is only 1/2 hp, and adding VS robs power, especially at lower speeds. I can stall my jet with a 1/2" bowl gouge on a 9.5" bowl, but I've been impressed again and again at the amount of power it has. My next lathe will be VS with a real VFD for full power, I plan to avoid small DC motor VS lathes for the time being.
If you're not in a hurry, watch craiglist for used. 2 months after I bought my mini ($250 lathe, $170 stand, $70 extension = $490) after the price had gone up there was a near-new mini w/ extension on a stand w/ some tools & accessories for $400.

Brodie Brickey
01-09-2009, 2:15 PM
Mike,

Depending on what type of turning you do, speed can be very important. When turning larger bowls or platters, the ability to slow the lathe down makes your life so much safer and easier.

Of the mini lathes, I've turned on regular Jet mini(1014) and the mini VS(1014VS). I really would prefer the 1220 (the slightly larger mini lathe Jet has) if it was my only lathe. The reason for this is due to the swing of 12". Most turning stock is within the 12" diameter, you can find larger, but its more difficult to acquire depending on what part of the country you're in. Most turners selling bowls and platters seem to also limit themselves to under 14". From some of the postings, the under 14" sizes seem to sell better on a arts & craft level.

Jet mini lathes really are workhorses. The WoodCraft store and community college in my area both have Jet mini lathes. They really take a beating and keep on ticking. Should one break down, there is a ready supply of parts and the spindle size (8TPIx1") is a common size so face plates, chucks, and other items are easy to acquire.

Below is a link to lathe specifications for a number of different lathes, both mini and others. It may help you make a decision.

http://www.woodturner.org/resources/LatheSpecs.pdf

If you haven't checked out a local turning club in your area, check out the AAW: http://www.woodturner.org/community/chapters/LocalChapters.asp

They can be a great resource in addition to the Creek.

Dave Lehnert
01-09-2009, 4:00 PM
If you are concerned about bearings being a little better in one lathe over the other. That may be true but I have a 1980"s craftsman I don't think has bearings ,only bushings, and it still works for the limited hobbies use it has received.

Steve Campbell
01-09-2009, 6:35 PM
Anyone else notice the date on the original post.

Steve

Ron Williams1
01-20-2012, 5:36 PM
I really cannot say which is the "best", all I can tell you is that I have been turning fairly constantly for the last 36 years on a large Delta. During the last 20 years I have made hundreds of pens, small bowls, bottle stoppers, etc, on the CarbaTec mini-lathe. The variable speed is great for me...if it just doesn't "feel right", I dial the speed up or down and keep going.

Good luck on which ever you choose.

Ron

Bill Wyko
01-20-2012, 6:12 PM
I too have to jump on the Jet mini with VS. I started turning on that lathe. It's where I fell into the vortex. Thought to myself "This will be a good, cheap hobby.:D" ROTFLMAO. By no means it this a cheap hobby.:eek:

Kyle Iwamoto
01-20-2012, 6:32 PM
This has to be a record for the oldest post revived. The OP is from 2005. 7 years old.... Hope he got a lathe by now.......

Mark Hubl
01-20-2012, 11:17 PM
:D:D:D I started to read this and wondered where had all the Delta fans gone. Funny how things have changed, Jet certainly good, couple new players, but I think today the Delta would get the most thumbs ups.