Unable to send private messge

[Mark R Webster]

All of a sudden I am unable to sent private messages. Was that feature removed from my profile for some reason? I was able to send messages before?
Thanks
Mark

[Steve Schlumpf]

Mark, check out the sticky at the top of the forum.

[Mark R Webster]

Sorry Steve I am confused, what stick and which forum?

[Mark R Webster]

This is what I get when I try to create a new message? I am not trying to edit someone else's post or administrative features

Mark R Webster, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:


Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.

[Keith Outten]

This is the link to the Announcement that you will find at the top of every Main Forum page concerning changes to Private Messages and Email. The same information has been shared in our Support Forum.

https://sawmillcreek.org/announcement.php?f=7&a=24

(https://sawmillcreek.org/announcement.php?f=7&a=24)Private Messaging Privileges Have Changed
Private Messaging Privileges are now inaccessible to free-access Members.

Because the majority of our Members are now using advertisement blocking software we are being forced to adjust some access privileges. This is an effort to encourage everyone to help us maintain the necessary funding to remain online and support our costs including new hardware, software and bandwidth. Currently our costs have not increased but our income has decreased below our ability to remain at the present level of service. By updating your account to Contributor status you will continue to have full access here and your assistance is appreciated.


(https://sawmillcreek.org/announcement.php?f=7&a=24)

[Mark R Webster]

Thanks I figured it out and donated.

[glenn bradley]

Thanks I figured it out and donated.

So . . . Keith's evil plan is working . . . :D:D:D

[Mark R Webster]

Appears so:)

[lewis white]

I think you should contact admin

[Frederick Skelly]

I think you should contact admin

Keith IS admin.

[Mark R Webster]

I made my donation... things are working again Thanks

[Matt Mattingley]

I’m just a member here. I try to contribute to make this forum Active and lively. I saw another member and contributor here needing parts for a particular machine. I was willing to help them out and I tried to send them a PM. I don’t need these parts and I was going to ship them. Is this true, we’re not allowed to help out other struggling woodworkers here with PMs anymore? And those in the elite, can’t help out those that are in poverty?

[John K Jordan]

Full access will set you back about a penny and a half per day.

[Matt Mattingley]

Full access will set you back about a penny and a half per day. Is this a response to my post??? I’m just a member! If I sent you just three weeks ago very valuable part to make your tablesaw work for free... so now you turn your nose to me. I get it. I am now the worker bee that is not allowed to have any backstage help. Are all the moderators forced to pay this? Or is this a fringe benefit because of your contribution to this forum? John, do you personally pay? Do all the moderators personally pay? And are you a struggling woodworker that is looking for help?

You’ve been a pretty honest person here. I respect your integrity! Have any of the moderators been given a free pass with out having to cough out an anti-out of their own personal pocket? I highly respect moderators and the job they do. They get no respect, sometimes they get no pay. Sometimes a lot of people hate moderators. Moderators do a tremendous job with absolutely no thanks or pay. I only ask one question, do any moderators here get a free pass?

[Jim Becker]

Matt, it comes down to economics and Keith has laid out what the situation is pretty clearly. Advertising is no longer supporting the cost of running this massive forum site...which is the same thing that many types of sites are experiencing because of changes in technology. Keith is asking for a whole six bucks right now and turning of Private Messages is merely an incentive. The alternative is going to be a subscription. This is NOT about "eliteness" or anything else. it's about keeping the site healthy financially.

As to your question about moderators...I've contributed hundreds of dollars to help maintain SMC since I joined in 2003. I'm answering out of courtesy to your question, despite the fact that it's frankly private information. I cannot speak to what others have contributed because that's not information any of us can see. Moderators don't get any "benefits" outside of the privilege of helping the site at a deeper level...and a little extra PM capacity because of all the work we have to do to keep things running smoothly. Oh, and we sometime get all that "respect" you mention, too.

[Lee Schierer]

I'm a moderator and I willingly pay for having access to this site. I also pay more than the minimum.

[John K Jordan]

Matt, I got nothing from you. What was it? Did you send it to my address in Clinton, TN? Do you have a tracking number? (This confuses me since my table saw is a like-new PM66 with a sliding table and it works fine, but perhaps my elderly brain is failing even quicker than my Lovely Bride keeps telling me.:))

I have no insider info but as far as I know, all moderators are volunteers uncompensated in any way. Yes, I personally support SMC with dollars. I find it easier to sign up with the recurring monthly subscription so I don't have to remember. This forum has been so useful to me I'm happy to pay far more than the minimum - I do the same on other forums where I am active, even those that don't require it. (I hope this doesn't sound like bragging) This amounts to $100s of dollars a year which I selfishly feel is worth it to help keep those forums open. I would be sad if the good forums closed leaving just the places where the uncivilized hang out.

I love helping people and teaching, on the forums, with turning demos, at the turning clubs and in my own shop, kids at the church, visitors to the farm, local schools. I accepted the moderator responsibilities here because I thought it would be an even better way to help (hey, I can rotate errant photos now for people!)

I can understand how people can be upset with change, especially when they lose something that has been free, however small. But seriously, it seems to me that anyone who can afford tools, wood, fasteners, sandpaper, finishes, power for the shop, and computer/smartphone/tablet/internet for forum access can probably come up with the $6/year to help keep the forum running - I know people who spend more than that every day for snacks and cigarettes and alcohol. Here's an idea for the financially destitute: selling just one unused little something every year on Classifieds here could pay for it!

JKJ


Is this a response to my post??? I’m just a member! If I sent you just three weeks ago very valuable part to make your tablesaw work for free... so now you turn your nose to me. I get it. I am now the worker bee that is not allowed to have any backstage help. Are all the moderators forced to pay this? Or is this a fringe benefit because of your contribution to this forum? John, do you personally pay? Do all the moderators personally pay? And are you a struggling woodworker that is looking for help?

You’ve been a pretty honest person here. I respect your integrity! Have any of the moderators been given a free pass with out having to cough out an anti-out of their own personal pocket? I highly respect moderators and the job they do. They get no respect, sometimes they get no pay. Sometimes a lot of people hate moderators. Moderators do a tremendous job with absolutely no thanks or pay. I only ask one question, do any moderators here get a free pass?

[Keith Outten]

Moderators are not required to financially contribute here, for the work that they do to support this Community we should pay them. Every Moderator here also helped me to review all of the pictures in our archives so we could build the new Hall of Fame web page. We spent hundreds of hours and the task is still ongoing, in fact it will always require attention as we add more projects over time. Remember that the entire Staff here are all woodworkers and they were Members/Contributors before they ever accepted the job as a Moderator. Every Moderator at SawMill Creek was nominated by their peers.

Anyone who cannot afford to make a contribution here can contact me and I will gladly upgrade your account for free. This has always been our policy. There is a email contact us (https://sawmillcreek.org/sendmessage.php) link at the bottom of every page.