adjustable grooving cutters on a shaper

[Mike Kees]

How do you use these cutters ? I am wondering exactly what the full range of uses are and what thickness range is the most useful of the choices available. Educate me please. Mike.

[Rod Sheridan]

Hi Mike, I have a true adjustable groover with a range of 8 to 15mm via shims. There are also inserts to make a 3 piece set for wider grooves. The maximum depth of cut is 65mm, the cutter is 200mm in diameter

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It's reversible so I can separate the pieces and run them with the scoring cutters inside to cut both surfaces of a tenon simultaneously.

I also have a 30mm spindle for my shaper so I can use my dado set in either the saw or shaper...................Rod.

[Mike Kees]

Thanks Rod. Is this a tool that I am probably going to end up with two different ones to accommodate various thicknesses ?I checked out youtube today and figured out the basics of setting one up .So you use the dado set with 30 mm bore for wider stuff and your adjustable covers the sixes you use most for m&t or tongue and groove ?

[Mike Delyster]

Like Rod I have a 8-15mm set that gets the most use (furniture size). I all so have a 4-8mm set for cutting grooves to install sheet good panels into solid wood frames.
A 15-30mm set is on my wish list, but until I build a project that requires one it will stay on the want list.

[Rod Sheridan]

Thanks Rod. Is this a tool that I am probably going to end up with two different ones to accommodate various thicknesses ?I checked out youtube today and figured out the basics of setting one up .So you use the dado set with 30 mm bore for wider stuff and your adjustable covers the sixes you use most for m&t or tongue and groove ?

Hi Mike, I use the dado set for wider or narrower, those cutters often have a third cutter with no knickers, it goes between the outer cutters to expand the range.

I use the set a lot for tenons as it cuts both cheeks simultaneously. For tongue and groove I normally use a 40mm Euroblock with tongue or groove cutter although this adjustable groover would certainly work....Rod.

[Joe Jensen]

Hi Mike, I have a true adjustable groover with a range of 8 to 15mm via shims. There are also inserts to make a 3 piece set for wider grooves. The maximum depth of cut is 65mm, the cutter is 200mm in diameter

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It's reversible so I can separate the pieces and run them with the scoring cutters inside to cut both surfaces of a tenon simultaneously.

I also have a 30mm spindle for my shaper so I can use my dado set in either the saw or shaper...................Rod.

I have the the narrow and wide set but not the insert. Where did you get that, I'd like to get one.

[Rod Sheridan]

I have the the narrow and wide set but not the insert. Where did you get that, I'd like to get one.

Joe, Felder have the groover set with an insert

http://us.feldershop.com/en-US/en-US/en-US/Sawing/Tongue-and-groove-cutters/Adjustable-Dado-Cutter-for-Saw-Unit-RB-HW-oxid.html

http://us.feldershop.com/en-US/en-US/en-US/Sawing/Tongue-and-groove-cutters/Adjustable-Dado-Cutter-for-Saw-Unit-RB-HW-oxid.html

Regards, Rod.

[brent stanley]

Wow $800 for 8-19mm....that's a lot! I don't think I spent that on two sets to go from 4mm to 29mm.....

[David Kumm]

If you are patient you can find them used. Oella saw and Tool also finds sets, sharpens them and resells. Shaper tooling gets bought for a specific job and if not used often, finds its way to CL or ebay. I have a half dozen various groovers I found that way. They will be almost as new when I sell them. Dave

[Jared Sankovich]

Amana has a few adjustable groovers with stackable add on center heads available separately. IIRC they were relatively inexpensive

[Kevin Jenness]

I have this Amana set with brazed carbide cutters and a 3/4" bore, not as nice as the ones above but quite useful and affordable. https://www.toolstoday.com/prestige-mighty-adjustable-super-fine-dado-groover-for-shaper-machines.html

[Patrick Walsh]

I use them all the time for the same reasons as above.

Use one today to mill up stock for door jambs with integral stop.

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Then a couple days ago to run the panel groove. Pretty slick to be able to shoot for a number on your panel but miss it due to sanding or whatever and still be able to get a exact fit with the adjustable groovers.

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Any set will do. Sharp knives and nickers all that matter.

[Mike Kees]

Jared how do you like the Amana groover ?

[David Zaret]

i have both amana adjustable groovers, and they work quite well. no complaints. they are especially handy for dialing in dados for drawer bottoms....

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[Kevin Jenness]

A relatively inexpensive alternative to insert groovers, with a wide size range, is a dado set with the correct bore for your spindle. For instance, Forrest offers alternative bore sizes on their Dado King https://www.forrestblades.com/dado-king/6-dado-king-saw-blade-set-2-outside-blades-6-chippers-and-blade-runner-carrying-case/ and Amana has dado sets with standard 3/4", 1" and 30mm bores https://www.toolstoday.com/search/go?w=dado%20sets. The drawback is that the whole set must be sharpened to renew a dull cutter, and fine width adjustment requires shimming, but for low volume this may be a good choice.

[Jared Sankovich]

Jared how do you like the Amana groover ?

I actually don't have the amana, I've just been looking at it recently. I have a cmt 8-15 and want to pick up one that covers a wider range.

[brent stanley]

I just wanted to share another option that is less expensive than the Felder options and less expensive than many of the Amana options too. No doubt a product of the "direct-from-manufacturer" prices without intermediary parties.

http://whitehill.tools/catalogue/#page=103

I own some if anyone has any questions,

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[Jared Sankovich]

I just wanted to share another option that is less expensive than the Felder options and less expensive than many of the Amana options too. No doubt a product of the "direct-from-manufacturer" prices without intermediary parties.

http://whitehill.tools/catalogue/#page=103

I own some if anyone has any questions,

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I need to call/email them and have a pair of 153mm x 10mm stackable centers made (insert door head)

[brent stanley]

I need to call/email them and have a pair of 153mm x 10mm stackable centers made (insert door head)

They do that sort of work all the time as a matter of course, and the process is seamless. I've had a few things made for me and there will be a bit of back and forth followed by a CAD drawing for your approval and it's off to the custom shop.

I'm really glad they have their insert door head in their latest catalogue because I think it's one of the most versatile insert style options out there. Good for doors up to 33mm thick, infinite panel adjustability between 5-9mm and you can get profiled edge doors and mission/shaker all in one set for way less than seperate. They can also supply custom profiles.

http://whitehill.tools/catalogue/#page=79

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[Carl Beckett]

Anybody know if this dado cutter comes in 1 1/4" bore?

https://www.toolstoday.com/v-11485-61370.html?glCountry=US&glCurrency=USD&ne_ppc_id=229790000&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI0e7Bw6bj3wIVkFuGCh1JiQg_EAQYASAB EgJUEvD_BwE

or have opinions on this style of cutter for hobby use?

[Rod Sheridan]

You can have any set bored to your requirement.

I had an FS tools 6" set bored to 30mm for my saw and shaper. It's a great set as the blades are ground as a set to the exact diameter.

A 4" set may not give you much tool projection beyond the fence, and once the spacers are on a 1 1/4" spindle there won't be a lot of cutting depth.

That said my dado set works great, except it doesn't go small enough for many veneered panels......Rod.

[Mike Kees]

Rod what do you get for depth of cut with your 6'' set ? Also is the FS set two blades and chippers or all blades ?