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Robert Flowers
12-25-2018, 5:57 PM
Starting a new work bench, thanking about Veritas Inset Vise. Looking for opinions, good or bad idea?

glenn bradley
12-25-2018, 6:41 PM
I use it on my bench-on-bench with good result.

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Jim Koepke
12-25-2018, 9:46 PM
My feeling is less than enthusiastic partially due to the cost being more than a tail vise screw.

http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?p=41664&cat=1,41659

This could be used to make a wagon vise having the same effect as the Inset Vise at less cost.

Another feature of the Inset Vise that doesn't appeal to me is described:


This low-profile vise is similar to a wagon vise in function, but in a compact, self-contained form for easy installation in a work surface, adding a permanent, adjustable dog right where it’s needed.

http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?p=66819&cat=1,41659

Having a permanent dog on the work surface can be an annoyance at times.

At one time a wagon vise seemed like a great idea. Since then my usage of the simple vises on my bench have convinced me that a simple vise may be more versatile.

Here is a project with a few different advantages a simple vise may have including being able to hold a few pieces at one time for sawing tenons:

https://sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?262272

The trimming of the tenon cheek has a dog under the tenon that isn't noticeable in the images.

jtk

glenn bradley
12-25-2018, 9:57 PM
Having a permanent dog on the work surface can be an annoyance at times.

Bad wording on their part Jim. The vise is permanently mounted but, the dog is removable. It is also easy to make custom dogs that suit your purposes. This vise is for small work and would never take the place of a full sized work holding mechanism.

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David Justice
12-25-2018, 11:33 PM
I have one on my bench and really like it. It's heavier duty than it looks. Have never had anything move while planning.

Derek Cohen
12-26-2018, 12:43 AM
An alternative is the HNT Gordon vise, which I have used and like ...

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-a6bVv82oEtA/VM0ljq5rWGI/AAAAAAAAHek/Fbngg473sZY/s1600/IMG_3137.JPG (http://davidbarronfurniture.blogspot.com/2015/01/new-work-bench-finished.html)

https://www.carbatec.com.au/images/ProductImages/500/HNT-12203-1.jpg (https://www.carbatec.com.au/clamping-vices-and-workholding/vices-and-accessories/vices/aluminium-tail-vice-100mm-incl-1-1-4-dog)

Video on installing it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygaEktidsNg

I've not used the Veritas vise, and am sure that there is a price difference.

Regards from Perth

Derek

ken hatch
12-26-2018, 8:39 AM
My feeling is less than enthusiastic partially due to the cost being more than a tail vise screw.

http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?p=41664&cat=1,41659

This could be used to make a wagon vise having the same effect as the Inset Vise at less cost.

Another feature of the Inset Vise that doesn't appeal to me is described:



http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?p=66819&cat=1,41659

Having a permanent dog on the work surface can be an annoyance at times.

At one time a wagon vise seemed like a great idea. Since then my usage of the simple vises on my bench have convinced me that a simple vise may be more versatile.

Here is a project with a few different advantages a simple vise may have including being able to hold a few pieces at one time for sawing tenons:

https://sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?262272

The trimming of the tenon cheek has a dog under the tenon that isn't noticeable in the images.

jtk

Jim,

I’ve been down that rood (wagon vise) and found it a lot of work for no increased utility. I’m not anti vise but most other than a face vise just get in the way. A face vise, some stops, and a few bench appliances work for my needs. I like your approach. As always YMMV.

ken

JimA Thornton
12-27-2018, 10:52 AM
I'm building a new workbench as well. My old workbench has a wagon vice, which I use a lot, I'm planning on installing one in my new bench. However, I'm also looking at the Veritas Inset Vise as accomplishing the same thing with a lot less work.

Jim