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Bill Dufour
12-09-2018, 12:30 PM
Ford is releasing a "new" ford ranger pickup in the USA for 2019. I could not find much information on the size of the bed except the max length is only 6 feet. No idea if it is at least 4 feet wide like the older rangers were. I heard it is something like 85% as big as a full size truck so maybe 4x8 sheets can lay flat between the wheel wells?
maybe a Australian or South African member can offer information on a 2012 or newer model.

Mike Kreinhop
12-09-2018, 2:31 PM
I just bought a German 2018 Ford Ranger Wildtrak with the extended cab (Super Cab elsewhere). While North American production of the Ranger stopped at the end of 2011, production continued for the rest of the world, with most being made in South Africa. Pickup trucks are just now becoming popular in Germany, with versions available from Ford, Toyota, Volkswagen, and Mercedes. Since all versions of the Ranger share the same wheelbase, adding more cabin room detracts from the space in the bed, so I went with the extended cab version so I could have some behind the seat storage and a decent bed length. The most common version of the Ranger is the four-door version and I have never seen a normal cab version on the roads here. I've seen only one other extended cab version.

I can't speak for the upcoming U.S. model, but it is not possible to carry full-sized sheet goods flat on the bed. The space between the wheel wells is too narrow. The tailgate opening is 133cm wide (just over 52 inches), so sheet goods will fit through the tailgate, but will have to be carried above the wheel wells.

I replaced a 2003 U.S. model Ford Ranger Edge that had the standard cab, and there is a big difference between the two models, including the size and capacity. I had both parked side by side before I sold the Edge, and the Wildtrak is longer, taller, and wider than the Edge. The Edge easily fit in my garage next to my wife's Ford Mondeo, but the Wildtrak barely fits. I had to rearrange the workbenches and shelving in my garage to accommodate the Wildtrak.

The bed of my Wildtrak is a little shorter than the Edge because of the extended cab; however, this will not impact my ability to carry full sheets of plywood. The sizes for sheet goods in Germany vary, but plywood and gypsum wall board are available in 125 x 250 cm (about the same as a 4'x8' sheet in North America). I built a carrier using construction-grade wood that holds the sheet goods level with the top of the wheel well in the bed. I have to carry full-size sheet goods with the tailgate down, but most of the load is carried by the supports in the bed.

Here's an image showing nine sheets of 19mm (3/4-inch) plywood I bought for my miter saw station loaded on my Edge. The Wildtrak can carry about six to seven more sheets than the Edge because the side of the bed is higher and the payload capacity is more.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4863/32375560908_28827f54da_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/RjVdj1)
Plywood_Delivery-1 (https://flic.kr/p/RjVdj1) by Mike66GE (https://www.flickr.com/photos/42211292@N04/), on Flickr


I'll modify the carrier to fit the Wildtrak and include images of it in this thread.

Paul F Franklin
12-09-2018, 2:58 PM
I've got my eye on that new ranger too, mostly because it supposedly can tow something like 7000+ lbs and is a lot more garage and wallet friendly than a full size. Full size trucks have gotten stupid expensive! I don't tow heavy often, or for long distances, but need to do it from time to time.

On my older ranger, I had a bed liner that had several molded in notches designed to support 2x4s across the bed right at the level of the wheel wells. So you could drop in the 2x4s and then slide full size sheet goods on top of the 2x4s. Of course they would stick out the end. Worked nicely. I have a 5x9 trailer I use for sheet goods now, but it would be nice to not have to deal with it for a sheet or two of sheetrock or plywood.

lowell holmes
12-09-2018, 3:54 PM
I will stick with my 2014 F150. I bought new with no miles in 2015. It is a 6 cylinder and runs really good. I have a long bed with a retractable bed cover.

Mike Kreinhop
12-09-2018, 4:07 PM
I will stick with my 2014 F150. I bought new with no miles in 2015. It is a 6 cylinder and runs really good. I have a long bed with a retractable bed cover.

Military Sales offers the F150 in any configuration here, and I was considering one to replace my Edge after I retire in Germany. Unfortunately, it won't fit in my garage, could not be delivered in time, and the cost to convert it to pass the German inspection started at €2,500.

Ole Anderson
12-10-2018, 3:24 PM
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4863/32375560908_28827f54da_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/RjVdj1)
Plywood_Delivery-1 (https://flic.kr/p/RjVdj1) by Mike66GE (https://www.flickr.com/photos/42211292@N04/), on Flickr




Wow, I would like to see how well you wrap Christmas presents!

lowell holmes
12-11-2018, 12:33 PM
I have a son and his son (grandson) that drive F-150 trucks. It must run in the family.

Mike Kreinhop
12-11-2018, 2:57 PM
Wow, I would like to see how well you wrap Christmas presents!

I had to make sure nothing went airborne on the Autobahn. :p

Jim Andrew
12-11-2018, 10:19 PM
I have a Toyota Tacoma, which has the pockets formed into the bed. Can use a 2x4 or 2x6 to lay in across the bed to haul sheets or other wide objects. Used mine to haul some replacement windows home. Amazing how I can abuse the Taco, and not damage it. Used it to pull a car trailer piled full of lumber heaped up. Had to hold the speed down to about 35 to avoid making the truck fish tail, but after once learning my top speed, made several trips. Also use the car trailer to haul logs.

Tom Stenzel
12-11-2018, 11:18 PM
On my older ranger, I had a bed liner that had several molded in notches designed to support 2x4s across the bed right at the level of the wheel wells. So you could drop in the 2x4s and then slide full size sheet goods on top of the 2x4s. Of course they would stick out the end. Worked nicely.

My '86 short bed Ranger had the same pockets on each side of the wheel wells, no liner.

-Tom

Chris Parks
12-12-2018, 7:46 AM
All Australian Rangers and Mazda BT50's (same vehicle) are made in Thailand.

Robert Engel
12-12-2018, 9:44 AM
Rangers never could carry a full size sheet of ply.

That said, if you look at the price and gas mileage, I think you'll find a full size F150 isn't much, if any, more.

As for towing 7000+ lbs, its unbelievable to me a truck that size would handle it. I certainly would never attempt pulling a load that weighs more than the truck!! You have to think about power, brakes and transmission.

I know what 5000 lbs feels like behind my F250 Powerstroke and that's why I'm saying this.

Mike Kreinhop
12-12-2018, 7:45 PM
Rangers never could carry a full size sheet of ply.

Rangers can definitely carry full sheets of plywood in the bed, but not flat on the bed.

Warren Lake
12-13-2018, 12:57 AM
Robert did someone say the Ranger could do 7,000 lbs I dont see that at as possible, Neighour has one.

I think my buick wagon would outdo that pickup. Ive towed 5,500 with it times in the past with load equalizers and it was fine but then it weighs 4,600 lbs, what does a ranger weigh. My car wasnt rated for the weight I towed but on the door of a second one I have with a tow package its rated for 5,000 and that is with no load equalizers,. not sure they change the weight rating and likely don't but there is the case from the manufacturer of the car being able tow more than its own weight. On the tow package you get a high rear end number, posi, trans cooler and engine oil cooler plus maybe more im forgetting. On my older one I had the trans rebuilt for more snap and with towing in mind number one, Change was very positive with or without a trailer.

And you can put 4 x 8's in easily in the buick, ive seen a number say you can close it up as well but I think that is hogwash, for sure you cant drive it unless you are a stick figure. Ill have to check on day if all the way forward allows the rear gate to close and dont really care if it can, if you cant drive it same time ist of no use to state that

Mike Kreinhop
12-13-2018, 4:17 AM
Robert did someone say the Ranger could do 7,000 lbs I dont see that at as possible, Neighour has one.

I had the opportunity to compare the U.S. and European models of the Ranger, and the similarities end with the name. I agree the U.S. model likely can't tow 7,000 pounds, nor would I try it. However, I have no problem believing the European model can tow its rated capacity of 3,500 kilograms, and wouldn't hesitate to load a trailer to the limit. The specifications for the 2019 Ranger Raptor indicate the towing capacity is reduced to 2,500 kilograms, but the other ranger models are still rated at 3,500 kilograms.

The speed limit in Germany for vehicles with trailers, including tractor trailers, is 100 KPH (about 60 MPH). Unless the trailer has the tires and suspension upgrades, the speed limit is 80 KPH.

Paul F Franklin
12-13-2018, 9:44 AM
The 2019 Ranger (US) isn't available yet, it's quite a bit different than the older models. According to the Ford Web site the prelim specs (for 4x4 model) are 1650 payload and 7500 towing. Vehicle weight is 4354.

I agree you'd be foolish to tow 7500 or even 5000 lbs frequently with it. But I'd like to be able to occasionally tow 5k and for short distances. Going by MSRP an F150 would be at least $5k more, probably more like $7k. You get more truck, sure, but it won't really fit in my garage and it's a pain to park anywhere.

Is it right for everyone? Of course not, but it hits the sweet spot for me.

Warren Lake
12-13-2018, 9:55 AM
wow, if payload is what you can put in the box thats alot and if that towing capacity is accurate that is huge for the weight of the vehicle, its lighter than my car.

Jim Becker
12-13-2018, 12:49 PM
The 2019 Ranger (US) isn't available yet, it's quite a bit different than the older models. According to the Ford Web site the prelim specs (for 4x4 model) are 1650 payload and 7500 towing. Vehicle weight is 4354.

That's a thousand pounds lower vehicle weight than my Grand Cherokee with a 7200 lb. limit! My payload is lower, however, at about 1200 lbs.

Peter Christensen
12-13-2018, 5:09 PM
I have a 2015 Nissan Frontier Kingcab V6 4x4 and it is good for about 1500lb in the box and a max towing weight with trailer brakes of something around 5,900lb. It all depends on the weight of passengers, luggage, stuff in the box, and the trailer weight and how all of it is distributed. I’m sure all trucks are the same. Load the box to the max and you can’t pull a trailer because of the added tongue weight. I like my Frontier, just wish it was made in Japan instead of 100% made in the US. ;)

Wayne Lomman
12-15-2018, 4:29 PM
If you want to carry sheet goods, order a cab/chassis and get a tray fitted. It hasn't got the style, but what are the priorities?

Towing capability and what you should tow are very different things. A trailer that exceeds tow vehicle weight is never going to do it safely at speed. My Range Rover is rated to tow 2000kg at any speed, 4000kg at 80km/h and 6000kg at 60km/h. Would I do this on the road? No, it isn't even legal and probably suicidal but if I did the drive train and chassis won't break - the vehicle still works 32 years on. Cheers