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Jason Ramey
12-07-2018, 9:07 PM
Hello all. I am outfitting a shop and have looked at the Powermatic 3520 and like what I see. We would mostly be doing bowls and shorter items and rarely a longer part like a table leg. This would be in a wood shop and not used on a daily basis. I have used all of the One Way lathes and liked them. Just wanted to see if there is one I may have overlooked. I would like to be out the door and shipped under 6500 . Also open to recommendations for lower priced machines as I would use the remaining funds for chucks and other lathe accessories .

Richard Coers
12-07-2018, 10:00 PM
There has been a 2hp Oneway 2436 on the AAW Forum since Nov 16. "The Oneway lathe is like new. It is a 2hp. Accessories include bed extension , extra banjo,braking resistor, remote start and stop,tailstock swinger,extra indexing positions, 6” tool rest,hand wheel hub, stronghold chuck with #1 , # 3 jaws, #2 Morse taper spur, #1 chuck spur, jumbo screw, verse mount coupling, 4”, 5” and 6” faceplate rings. Asking $ 6500 for everything."

Jason Ramey
12-07-2018, 10:47 PM
Hi Richard , thank you for the response. I forgot to mention that the purchasing agreement at my place of employment allows new purchases only.

Doug W Swanson
12-07-2018, 11:11 PM
I love my PM3520B. It’s been a great addition to my shop and I use it often. I know the 3520C is around $4400 but if you get it on sale you’d have over $2,000 for accessories.

Marvin Hasenak
12-07-2018, 11:29 PM
When you start adding up the cost of safety equipment, a dust collection system, sharpening equipment, chisels, and chucks, you will find that you can easily spend a big chunk of coin.

Steve Mathews
12-08-2018, 7:07 AM
With that budget I would only be looking to purchase a Vicmarc (Australia), Oneway (Canada) or Robust (USA) in probably that order of preference. All are quality machines.

Don McClure
12-08-2018, 8:08 AM
For your budget I would go with Powermatic 3520C and use the remainder for tools, dust collection etc. By far the best lathe for that money....

Roger Chandler
12-08-2018, 8:21 AM
You owe it to yourself to check out the Grizzly G0800. Made by the same folks as the Powermatic line, and is one fine beast of a lathe. You can look up threads where it has been discussed. I have turrned on the Robust American Beauty, the megga beast Serious SL2542 and numerous Powermatic lathes......I chose the G0800 because yes, it really is a high end, heavy duty machine with advanced features!

Solid cast iron, heavy duty in every respect, and comparable in class to a PM4224b ...accessories like bed extension available. Mine has super torque at low speeds, advanced induction motor/inverter combo and braking resistor, really heavy duty bearings, ....etc,...

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Bill Blasic
12-08-2018, 9:19 AM
You won't go wrong with the Powermatic, 15 years of trouble free operation, not even the smallest of problems. Plus a 5 year warranty. Sliding head stock and solid cast iron.

Reed Gray
12-08-2018, 12:03 PM
My preference, especially for bowl turning is the sliding headstock. This is primarily the Robust (made in the uSA), the PM, or Laguna. Not sure about Grizzly, I seem to remember that they require an extra long tool post, at least for some models, which, even though I haven't used them, the idea doesn't make sense to me. Next bet would be a pivoting headstock, and the only one that does that right or is the best at it, is the Vicmarc, not sure which model number. The big Robust and PM lathes are at or slightly over the $6500 limit. Not sure if you said, but you spend as much or more for 'accessories' like grinder, dust collection, tools, bandsaw, chainsaw, abrasives, finishes, etc. as you do for the lathe. The Oneway is a good lathe, but for bowl turning, I would use the outboard set up rather than over the long bed. Just more ergonomically efficient as you don't have to bend over or reach way out away from your body.

robo hippy

Damon McLaughlin
12-08-2018, 12:23 PM
After turning on numerous Powermatic 3520B lathes for a year I purchased a brand new Powermatic 3520c. Unfortunately it took four and a half months and four lathes to get one that worked. In my opinion the new C models are not built like the previous B models. I agree that Vicmarc, Oneway and Robust are all excellent lathes with great support should you need it.

If you have turning club nearby you might want to see if there are any members in your area that can show you or give you a hands on demo on any of the lathes mentioned.

Alex Zeller
12-08-2018, 1:05 PM
Seams like your replies are based on two different ideas. Is your budget just for the lathe or will it have to include the tools. Since you are in a woodworking shop I'm assuming that you already have a dust collection system, a band saw, and probably a way to sharpen tools. I would still plan on investing up to $1500 into the chuck/ tools needed. If your making bowls for selling then a coring system could also be something you'll want to look into. I don't mind 80% of my blank being turned into shavings but if I was paying for the wood I'm sure I would feel differently. So the question really is if you do spend $6500 for a top of the line lathe can you still spend the extra money?

My personal opinion is that a $4000 price range lathe is going to give you what you want. If you were planning on using this lathe on a daily basis or if it was going to be a personal lather then I would spend the extra money. From what I have learned almost any lathe in that price range is going to be a very good. So it comes down to features. I have a lower end Grizzly. If I was to upgrade to a $5000 lathe both the Laguna 24/36 and Grizzly G800 would be at the top of my list. I just like the Laguna lathes and the G800 has an optional bed extension that can be mounted in line with the bed to extend the length if needed, it can be mounted lower than the bed to do outboard turning of large blanks, and it can be mounted perpendicular to the bed so you can move the banjo to the side and out of the way of the tailstock.

Bill Jobe
12-08-2018, 1:12 PM
3 Grizzly G0766's and half a dozen chucks.

Prashun Patel
12-08-2018, 1:42 PM
What features are most important to you?

Mass?
HP?
Swing?
Tilting/swinging tailstock?
Outboard capability?
Stainless steel?
Tools?
Accessories?
Lungs?

There is no right answer here, but you may find that the right lathe for your budget is getting a great (not best) lathe and then paying for additional features that make the experience better. As an example, while I love my lathe, I LOVE having a few extra chucks and jaws and having splurged for fantastic tools and dust collection. These latter things really make the experience enjoyable and efficient. This investment was easily an additional $1000-$1500.

David M Peters
12-08-2018, 3:44 PM
Hey Jason, for bowl turning I would go for a machine with outboard capability and a remote control pendant. Check out my big list of lathes (https://tracezero.net/woodworking/lathe-comparison-list/) to cover any models you might have missed!

Pat Bowman
12-08-2018, 7:06 PM
G0766 is all anybody needs.3 horsepower beast!

Jason Ramey
12-08-2018, 10:10 PM
Seams like your replies are based on two different ideas. Is your budget just for the lathe or will it have to include the tools. Since you are in a woodworking shop I'm assuming that you already have a dust collection system, a band saw, and probably a way to sharpen tools. I would still plan on investing up to $1500 into the chuck/ tools needed. If your making bowls for selling then a coring system could also be something you'll want to look into. I don't mind 80% of my blank being turned into shavings but if I was paying for the wood I'm sure I would feel differently. So the question really is if you do spend $6500 for a top of the line lathe can you still spend the extra money?

My personal opinion is that a $4000 price range lathe is going to give you what you want. If you were planning on using this lathe on a daily basis or if it was going to be a personal lather then I would spend the extra money. From what I have learned almost any lathe in that price range is going to be a very good. So it comes down to features. I have a lower end Grizzly. If I was to upgrade to a $5000 lathe both the Laguna 24/36 and Grizzly G800 would be at the top of my list. I just like the Laguna lathes and the G800 has an optional bed extension that can be mounted in line with the bed to extend the length if needed, it can be mounted lower than the bed to do outboard turning of large blanks, and it can be mounted perpendicular to the bed so you can move the banjo to the side and out of the way of the tailstock.

Hi Alex , I should clarify that 6500 is the most I would want to spend outright on the lathe not including tools. I can use another 2000 or so on the remaining tools/ accessories and would definitely like a coring setup. We have dust collection in place but would still like some type of customized setup. We also have a few tools but can definitely use more. A few people have mentioned the Grizzly g0800 and it is very tempting. It definitely looks like I could get 30-40 years out of it.... I hope.
I took a look at the laguna and not sure which one would be the best option between the two.

Jason Ramey
12-08-2018, 10:17 PM
What features are most important to you?

Mass?
HP?
Swing?
Tilting/swinging tailstock?
Outboard capability?
Stainless steel?
Tools?
Accessories?
Lungs?

There is no right answer here, but you may find that the right lathe for your budget is getting a great (not best) lathe and then paying for additional features that make the experience better. As an example, while I love my lathe, I LOVE having a few extra chucks and jaws and having splurged for fantastic tools and dust collection. These latter things really make the experience enjoyable and efficient. This investment was easily an additional $1000-$1500.
Great point about having all of the extras. I would rather have every type of chuck or specialty tool along with a decent lathe. As far as options go, I like the tilting/ swinging headstock and the ability to do some outboard work. Would also love a mobile base for cleaning the shop when needed.

Roger Chandler
12-08-2018, 10:51 PM
A few people have mentioned the Grizzly g0800 and it is very tempting. It definitely looks like I could get 30-40 years out of it.... I hope.
I took a look at the laguna and not sure which one would be the best option between the two.You should look at the thread about the Laguna Revo 24/36 spindle getting warm. While that issue was resolved for the owner, there is a post on the differences between the Revo 24/36 and the Grizzly G0800. Basically it comes down to heavier build on the Grizzly 0800 vs. the pendant feature on the Revo, and of course more advanced inverter on the 0800. https://sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?269679-LAguna-24-36-Spindle-getting-quite-warm

John K Jordan
12-09-2018, 1:12 PM
Great point about having all of the extras. I would rather have every type of chuck or specialty tool along with a decent lathe. As far as options go, I like the tilting/ swinging headstock and the ability to do some outboard work. Would also love a mobile base for cleaning the shop when needed.

As often the case, when you ask what is the "best" the responses are usually the lathe the writer has. That is telling in itself - all of these lathes will do the job! All of them will have good power, variable speed, reverse, heavy duty components, enough weight to be stable. There are many feature differences but those will require research to see if they might be valuable to your individual situation. I think you will be very happy with a Powermatic, Robust, Oneway, Laguna, and probably a Grizzly.

It's a rare person has enough long-term experience with more than one high end lathe to provide informed comparisons! Rarer still is if the same person has the same interests as you.

My own experience and some of my feelings about features: My first "real" lathe was a Jet 1642 - excellent for spindles, long spindles, boxes, vessels, and bowls/platters up to 15" inches without going outboard and overboard. I ended up with two of those plus a PM3520b with bed extension which I use the most now - things like the tailstock and banjo feel much healthier to me. I have zero interest in joining the crowded bigger bowl club - I'm more interested in smaller, detailed things that take finesse and fine tool control - the swing limit of 20" is enough for me but using the bed extension for the tool rest the outboard capability is ridiculously large if I someday lost my mind completely some day.

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About features: A swing-away tailstock is nice, but if not used often the arm muscles work and the money can go towards more chucks. It is not possible to have too many chucks. Lathes with a lot of horsepower can help with powering through large blanks, especially if the turner lacks finesse with the tools but can make things even more exciting during a disaster. Turning outboard can be more comfortable for standing and peering but you give up the safety and security of the tailstock. Swinging headstocks may need extra care to realign. If hollowing with a rig they typically need to be unswung. (is that a word?) The positionable controls on the Oneway is nice but an inexpensive remote cutoff switch on my PM provides the important emergency off switch with my leg. And as mentioned, pending less on a perfectly suitable lathe will leave more for other things. You can easily spend 10 or 15K extra on tools, chucks, jigs, and most important - don't forget wood! A nice chunk of Olivewood might run $100. I saw a small Cocobolo log offered for $600. Even if you stick to turning free green wood, consider chainsaws, truck/trailer, hoist, sawmill, tractor, ack...!

Much boils down to kinds of turning you want to do now (and what might turn in the future that you can't guess yet!) I think all of the large lathes discussed are incredible for starters and capable of turning almost anything later, large or small. Some of my decision own decision might be influenced by what dealers are closer.

JKJ

Roger Chandler
12-09-2018, 7:11 PM
Perspective is a good thing, especially when as JKJ puts it long term experience with the main players. To date eleven 3520b’s I’ve turned on, and muptiple times on several of those. Turning sessions on both the Robust AB, Serious SL2542, and numerous Jet 1642 evs units. Other models also under my belt, both midi’s and full size.

With that experience to inform me, I still chose the G0800. Was actually saving for the AB from Robust [fine machine indeed], but the build, features and my great experiences on two other Grizzly models I own, or have owned left me with the knowledge that I would not regret my decision on the G0800. It really is a premium, high grade, heavy duty lathe. As mentioned......in the class with the PM 4224b, with some ergonomic design the PM does not have.

As mentioned by JKJ and others, there is a plethora of lathes available. You need to decide what you want in a machine related to capacity [both swing and distance between centers] build [how robust are the components], features that are a must for your needs going forward. Good luck shopping! ;)

Jason Ramey
12-09-2018, 7:56 PM
Thanks! That’s an impressive list

Jason Ramey
12-09-2018, 7:58 PM
Hi John, thanks for the invite input. The Powermatic photo makes me want to go out and buy one right now, beautiful space as well!

Jason Ramey
12-09-2018, 8:06 PM
Hi Roger, I think you’ve nearly sold me on the G8000, it does look like a solid piece of machinery. I’ve been going back and forth all day between the Grizzly site and the Powermatic site and drooling over each. The electricians are coming in Tuesday and they want me to show them what machine goes in each area so I’m hoping to have made the decision by Monday night. Right now we have a Delta 16/42 that I have made work pretty well but I cannot wait to replace. Now if I could only find an all in one chuck kit so I don’t have to search all over, that would be great. I was looking at the Grizzly offerings but not sure of the quality. We have a Nova g3 on the Delta but I’m wanting something larger.... more decisions to make.

Steve Mathews
12-09-2018, 8:36 PM
All of the machines mentioned so far will most likely get the job done but what is their comparative build quality? In other words, we can't compare a lathe from Harbor Freight with a Robust or Vicmarc even though all might turn out the same work.

Alex Zeller
12-09-2018, 8:39 PM
Since I had never used a lathe before I didn't want to go crazy. I placed my order with Grizzly for my G0766 before the tariff prices kicked in when another member here posted a discount code. I knew I wanted large enough to not grow out of it. It's not a perfect lathe but has done everything I have wanted. It's made in China. Before I made my decision I was looking at the Laguna 18-36 and the Grizzly G0800 if I wanted a larger swing. I think I had too much time on my hands as I was looking into the construction of each lathe. What I liked with the G0800 was that it had 3 very large bearings (bigger than the powermatic uses) on the head. Bigger than the Laguna uses. Granted the G0800 has a bigger swing than the powermatic so there's a chance that it could have a larger blank on it. Most likely though it's overkill and even the smaller bearings should last for years.

When it came to a chuck I went with a Vicmarc VM120. I can't offer an opinion about any other brands. I wouldn't go any larger unless you plan on turning really big heavy pieces. But like any high end tool you spend more so if your plan is to have multiple chucks the extra cost will add up. Once you pick a brand you're going to be kind of locked in as you get a selection of jaws for it.

Roger Chandler
12-09-2018, 9:03 PM
Alex, I also have a G0766 in my shop. It has done everything I’ve wanted, and I use it often, and after 3 years, absolutly no problems. I think I was one of the first two or three to get that lathe. With the G0800, I have an even higher grade machine, with even more advanced features. Jason, our original poster would do well with a Powermatic, Laguna or Grizzly, or Robust, Oneway, etc. From what I read on the AAW forum, here and elsewhere, the 3520c model is feature packed, but not as stout a machine as the 3520b model was......that might be individual opinions, but I have read of some that sold the 3520c and got something else, because it was not the build they wanted.

Please know that I am not trying to sell Jason or anyone else on a Grizzly lathe.....my honest feeling is that anyone who wants a serious turning machine that is surprisingly well machined and featured, owe it to themselves to take a look. The G0800 might not be what some want, upon close inspection, so they should look carefully. But I also know that in taking a close look, they might just find more than they ever thought was there for the price! Again, happy shopping Jason!;)

Jack Lilley
12-10-2018, 6:38 AM
If you purchase a Grizzly G0766 lathe just be prepared to be a mechanic in between turning time. There is a good chance you will get to be the mechanic on the lathe before the woodturner even when purchasing new. While this is a decent lathe for the money it is also flawed, some things can be fixed by the consumer and some cannot. One of the ergonomic things that cannot be fixed is the lathe is to tall with a shallow footprint and that makes it unstable with large wood. Read the threads on the Grizzly owners page. I purchased one a few years ago, was largely influenced by Roger's comments and budget, I sold it after about a year and replaced it with a much better lathe for little more money. Just do your research on the Grizzly, if you don't mind being a mechanic you might like it.

Bill Blasic
12-10-2018, 7:04 AM
One of my students bought a Grizzly and after two weeks told me that now he understands why they are cheaper as the owner you are also the mechanic that has to do all the work to get the lathe to work properly. I personally have three Grizzly products a table saw, band saw and metal lathe and can agree with my student that you better be prepared to fix problems that these machines have. That is why all my wood lathes had a five year warranty, if they warrant them for five years you can pretty much guess they are making a good product. After 10 to 15 years these wood lathes are all running great and have had no problems.

Roger Chandler
12-10-2018, 8:05 AM
Since my G0766 was one of the first, myself and a couple of others helped get the “kinks” out of that new model. Not really kinks, but small things like the banjo hole being 25mm diameter, and standard posts on the aftermarket toolrests are generally 1” diameter. Same with the spindle boss, using metric dimensions, some chucks did not seat all the way back to the spindle shoulder. Both were extremely easy to adjust, with a 1” drill bit to enlarge that hole by .004 “ and a file to take off a little of that spindle boss with the lathe running. Of course because the lathe was also sold in Europe, the metric standards were used, but now Grizzly has taken care of all that for the American market.

They shortened the legs 2 “, but my original were fine for me. I’m 5’ 11” tall. It was only an issue for shorter turners. All the Grizzly chucks fit from the factory, so it might have been a thing to increase sales of their line of chucks. As far as mechanics, electronics, etc. they have all that buttoned up nicely from what I have seen reported. They also made the larger banjo for the 0766 and sent the new one to all owners at no charge. I’ve turned a lot of wood on my G0766, and I’ve had great service from it as well. I’ve cored on it also...plenty of power and torque. Basically, almost the same design as the smaller Jet 1642 as far as stance.

Now, the G0800 is a higher grade machine, perfect from the factory when I got mine. No adjustments needed!

John K Jordan
12-10-2018, 9:13 AM
Since my G0766 was one of the first, myself and a couple of others helped get the “kinks” out of that new model. ...

Do you know if Grizzly ever resolved the problem I heard some had with the headstock casting breaking? I never saw the outcome.

Discussed here: https://sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?249266-Grizzly-0766-down-what-to-do-what-to-do

https://sawmillcreek.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=348261&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1480126619

Maybe they just had some growing pains with some bad castings. The Grizzly does seem to have a large following of satisfied users.

JKJ

Roger Chandler
12-10-2018, 12:12 PM
John, that damage is pure bad technique in trying to get a stuck chuck off. The metric spindle was about .0010” more than the aftermarket chucks sold in the USA. Grizzly chucks fit from the get go, but that information was not passed on by Grizzly, as I suppose their thinking was it matched with their chucks. I have seen a lot of tolerences all over the place on different chuck inserts....even from the same manufacturer. I had genuine teknatool inserts that had different measurements. I think they probably came from different runs at the manufacturer, as some were purchased 3 or 4 years later than others in my chuck collection.

I remember one turner [Fred in WVa.] who broke the spindle housing on his G0698 18/47 back a few years ago, much like the G0766 you have pictured above. The G0766 is a very good lathe, but those metric machining specs did cause a few problems along the way for some who did not take the time to read up on postings from experienced users. As I mentioned earlier, Grizzly has changed most of those specs along with new orders of the G0766, as they had returns and figured out things....customer feedback can really give them an education!

The G0800 is much beefier in the castingss, and has a totally different spindle lock design, and is a higher class of lathe, really comparable to the PM 4224b, but with ergonomic design elements the PM does not have. The banjo is beefier than the banjo on the Powermatic or the Robust American Beauty, tailstock is heavy, and everthing locks down absolutely rock solid. A really fine lathe.

John K Jordan
12-10-2018, 1:14 PM
... A really fine lathe.

I'd like to try turning on one. Maybe I'll come visit!

JKJ

Jon McElwain
12-14-2018, 12:38 PM
The Oneway is a good lathe, but for bowl turning, I would use the outboard set up rather than over the long bed. Just more ergonomically efficient as you don't have to bend over or reach way out away from your body.

robo hippy

Reed, have you ever tried running the lathe in reverse and putting your cutting edge on the far side of the lathe? I've done this with good success as the tool handle is on the close side of the lathe and you don't have to reach over the ways to turn bowls. The Oneway has the capability of a full range variable speed while in reverse - not sure if other lathes can do this.

Anyone else tried this?

Back to the original question - I'm not sure of the cost of the lathe, but the VB36 Bowlmaster has always intrigued me. I went with the Oneway 2436 since the VB36 is a dedicated bowl lathe and I wanted to be able to turn spindles. I might be inclined to change my mind at this point though - I'm about 2% spindles and 98% bowls and vessels. That said, I've been really happy with my Oneway. It is about 8 years old now and still runs like new.

Jon Mac

John K Jordan
12-14-2018, 1:16 PM
Reed, have you ever tried running the lathe in reverse and putting your cutting edge on the far side of the lathe? ...Anyone else tried this?

I do this, not only for the inside of bowls but for a variety of things. I was turning a tiny inverted platter-shaped finger top yesterday and could see a lot better when in reverse, especially when precision detailing. Most of the lathes today will spin the same in reverse - I mostly use a PM3520b but I've done the same thing on my Jet 1642. For a large, heavy blank it is best to lock the chuck to the lathe spindle.

JKJ

Alex Zeller
12-15-2018, 7:47 AM
Just a question that's kind of off topic but would turning not in reverse but standing on the other side of the lathe accomplish the same thing as turning in reverse? I've done this when working on the inside of some bowls. Turning in reverse would mean using a set screw to keep the chuck from unscrewing. I'm sure that people with lots of experience don't worry about catches but I'm not there yet. Just trying to learn if there's any advantage to turning in reverse.

Steve Mathews
12-15-2018, 9:42 AM
Just a question that's kind of off topic but would turning not in reverse but standing on the other side of the lathe accomplish the same thing as turning in reverse? I've done this when working on the inside of some bowls. Turning in reverse would mean using a set screw to keep the chuck from unscrewing. I'm sure that people with lots of experience don't worry about catches but I'm not there yet. Just trying to learn if there's any advantage to turning in reverse.

Good point but I think you would want to turn with the opposite hand.

John Keeton
12-15-2018, 1:39 PM
Actually, I turn from the back side of the lathe often and use the same dominant right hand as I do in the normal position. I don't turn in reverse, but I think that is when it might be more convenient to turn "left handed" - left hand on the handle.

Brice Rogers
12-15-2018, 4:23 PM
I have a G0766 (an early one) and I talked Griz into giving me the shorter legs. They are close to 2" shorter. I'm 5'10" so the shorter legs work better for me. But, now, all of the 0766 lathes come with the shorter legs.

I had some early issues with the lathe. At the time, there was a lot of activity about the lathe on the GGMG sub-group. Now, there is very seldom activity. So, my "read" is that the initial "kinks" have been largely ironed out.

But if I had $6500 of someone else's money, I would probably buy something higher end. Perhaps the G0800 or a PM. But if I only had $2K to spend, I'd probably buy another Grizzly.

I remember seeing the picture of the broken headstock casting. I never heard how that came out. Perhaps it was a flaw in the casting or perhaps the fellow just used too much force. I use a poly spacer and haven't had any issues of a chuck getting frozen.

Reed Gray
12-16-2018, 1:49 PM
Where was I???? As for outboard turning, when I got my PM, my lathe sat in a corner, and turning outboard was not an option, which is why the sliding headstock works so well for me. Dale Larson roughs out all of his bowls on the inboard of his big Oneway, and finish turns on the outboard end. I know there are variations, with some being reverse threaded so things don't unwind, and using locking chucks, and getting used to turning with the lathe spinning the other direction. All work, but I have gotten used to the sliding headstock....

robo hippy

Bill Jobe
12-16-2018, 3:01 PM
Of those who do turn in forward spindle rotation and stand at the rear of the lathe, have you installed a remote shutoff?

Mick Fagan
12-16-2018, 5:26 PM
Of those who do turn in forward spindle rotation and stand at the rear of the lathe, have you installed a remote shutoff?

This was one of the reasons I started looking at the Laguna Revo 24-36 with the remote rear unit that is affixed to either the right front of the lathe on the top of the legs, or attached to the rear of the tailstock arm. Or, as I have now done, attached it to a stand alone mount for when I am standing at the end of the lathe doing a bowl or platter.

For years I had been using my Noval 1624-44 lathe with the swivel head for larger items, which was great, but to turn the lathe on or off, one needed to step behind the work to access the switch. I was at the stage of adding an emergency cut-off switch when I decided I wished to upgrade, whereupon the Laguna 24-36 became the frontrunner and what I eventually purchased. The added remote switch housing, was what tipped my decision towards the 24-36 over the 18-36.

At my turning club, all of our lathes have been fitted with an emergency cut-off switch at the end of each lathe. This allows anyone at the tailstock end to just hit the button to kill everything; quite a good feature in a busy environment.

Mick.

Peter Christensen
12-19-2018, 1:38 PM
I'm curious if anyone has looked into getting the Harvey T60 directly from China rather that getting the G0800 from Grizzly, basically the same lathe? What are the shipping charges etc.? Would there be any savings if any when done? The only downside I see would be after sales parts/service.

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/T-60-Variable-speed-woodworking-lathe_731120782.html?spm=a2700.7724838.2017115.33. 588b6a25IGP7VC

https://www.grizzly.com/products/Grizzly-24-x-48-Heavy-Duty-Wood-Lathe/G0800

Van Huskey
12-20-2018, 1:11 AM
I'm curious if anyone has looked into getting the Harvey T60 directly from China rather that getting the G0800 from Grizzly, basically the same lathe? What are the shipping charges etc.? Would there be any savings if any when done? The only downside I see would be after sales parts/service.

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/T-60-Variable-speed-woodworking-lathe_731120782.html?spm=a2700.7724838.2017115.33. 588b6a25IGP7VC

https://www.grizzly.com/products/Grizzly-24-x-48-Heavy-Duty-Wood-Lathe/G0800

It may be completely different in Canada but here is the tale of one direct from China buyer of a woodworking machine:

https://sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?265986-Importing-Combination-Machine-from-China-as-an-Individual-My-Adventure-(So-Far)&highlight=china

In the US we currently have a 25% tariff on woodworking machines. There are a lot of people that buy laser engravers direct so there is likely a lot of info in that sub-forum. For me personally, the process seemed far too involved and expensive compared to the money saved.

Glenn C Roberts
12-20-2018, 9:29 AM
"Your bandsaw weighs more when you leave the spring compressed instead of relieving the tension"

:D:D:D:D:D

Brandolini's law definitely applies to the politics of today....

Peter Christensen
12-20-2018, 12:28 PM
It may be completely different in Canada but here is the tale of one direct from China buyer of a woodworking machine:

https://sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?265986-Importing-Combination-Machine-from-China-as-an-Individual-My-Adventure-(So-Far)&highlight=china

In the US we currently have a 25% tariff on woodworking machines. There are a lot of people that buy laser engravers direct so there is likely a lot of info in that sub-forum. For me personally, the process seemed far too involved and expensive compared to the money saved.


Thanks. I'll check the sub-forum out. I read the thread about the saw. I have bought lights and a VFD through Alibaba and it was painless and easy. Alibaba has a protection plan much like Amazon has. I'm looking into getting a tractor/accessories the same way and once I know what is entailed I'll decide if I'll pop for it. Maybe I could get a lathe tossed into the same container. :rolleyes:

I'm familiar with your tariff and actually was affected by it when I bought a 5C collet locally that is probably headquartered in the US. There was a sticker on it that said that Tarriff xxxxxxxx was applied. That tariff shouldn't apply to us but since it went through your world it cost 25% more than it did a year ago.:mad:

Jason Ramey
01-14-2019, 9:27 PM
Hello all, thanks for the help on this. I placed an order for a 3520c with swingaway tailstock, bowl rest, lift, rock, and roll base and a holdfast vacuum system. Also ordered a Vicmsrc 120 chuck and will be ordering a one way Talin soon. I had the opportunity to turn on An American Beauty, A sweet 16, and a 3520c last week, and I liked the 3520c the most. I love the American beauty but didn’t like the on/off switch configuration as there were many times I meant to push the stop button and would reverse the lathe instead of stopping. Both the American Beauty were so quiet I couldn’t tell they were on. Can’t wait for it to get here!
Ordering some turning tools and a one way sharpening jig along with some 8 inch sharpening wheels this week .