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Dave Lehnert
11-10-2018, 9:04 PM
Been reading with interest about electric bicycles.
Always thought they were just a kinda moped. But see how helpful they can be to assist a rider on hills or longer rides.

My local bike shop has the Pedego brand bikes. $3,200 a little steep for my needs.
https://www.pedegoelectricbikes.com/product/city-commuter-mid-drive-edition/

Anyone have or use an electric bike?

John K Jordan
11-10-2018, 9:29 PM
I don't have one but would like one, off road style. I saw them in use in Europe. A friend of mine is following them very closely and often sends me info and videos. What he wants is well over $10,000. Rats, maybe you get what you pay for with e-bikes too.

JKJ

David Kreuzberg
11-11-2018, 12:09 AM
They're all the rage with the Amish in Ohio's Holmes County. I had no idea they were that expensive, given the Amish are very frugal as a rule. I wonder how they get around recharging the batteries since electricity is a no-no to most Amish...maybe with electricity from a gas-powered generator?

William Adams
11-11-2018, 12:40 AM
I've been commuting by bicycle for a couple of years now when weather and schedule permits.

I've been considering an ebike or a conversion (probably a Geo Orbital Wheel).

There are a couple of options:

- pedal assist --- these seem to match up with European legal requirements
- throttle --- these are more moped-like

and various power / speed levels, w/ performance (speed/range) scaling as one pays more.

Nike Nihiser
11-11-2018, 8:49 AM
David,
Electricity, by itself, is not a no-no to most Amish. Tying into the grid is.

Mark Carlson
11-11-2018, 9:03 AM
I got an emotion mountain bike about 3 years ago. Used it to commute to work so I wouldn't show up all sweaty. Lots of fun. If I had to do it over again I'd buy a mid drive kit from Luna Cycle and convert a bike I liked to an ebike. Much much cheaper and you end up with a bike you can easily swap out parts and upgrade the battery. If my emotion battery goes I'm not sure what I'll do. Get it rebuilt maybe? Its probably no longer made and its a custom fit. Same for the controller and other electronics.

Dave Lehnert
11-11-2018, 10:17 AM
They're all the rage with the Amish in Ohio's Holmes County. I had no idea they were that expensive, given the Amish are very frugal as a rule. I wonder how they get around recharging the batteries since electricity is a no-no to most Amish...maybe with electricity from a gas-powered generator?

I was just in Holmes County in September. Go once or twice a year.
Last time I did notice Electric Bikes were everywhere.

https://ebikesofholmescounty.com/

Dave Lehnert
11-11-2018, 10:33 AM
Thanks for the tip on an e bike conversion. An option I did not know about.

John K Jordan
11-11-2018, 1:56 PM
David,
Electricity, by itself, is not a no-no to most Amish. Tying into the grid is.

Using solar to charge the batteries?

JKJ

Jerome Stanek
11-11-2018, 3:13 PM
do they recharge when you go down hill

Dan Friedrichs
11-11-2018, 3:49 PM
Here's what you need:
https://toolguyd.com/makita-18v-lxt-cordless-folding-bicycle/

Bill Dufour
11-11-2018, 5:09 PM
Several years I had a student who had an interesting wheel chair. The motors where in the hub of each wheel. As I remember there was no control box. She explained that as she used her hands to pull the wheel it assisted her efforts but she had to have some hand and arm control. I think she could vary the amount of assist depending on how tired her arms were.
Bill D.

Bill Orbine
11-11-2018, 5:22 PM
David,
Electricity, by itself, is not a no-no to most Amish. Tying into the grid is.

Could possibly be Mennonites?

Wade Lippman
11-11-2018, 5:36 PM
I don't know anything about Amish, but many of my neighbors are Mennonites so I am familiar with them.
They have a wide range of customs depending on what Church they go to. Some use electricity, some have it only in their barn only, some don't use it at all.
They also vary widely in their dress and driving habits.
I've never seen in on an electric bike.

I just wish they would clean up after their horses.

Perry Hilbert Jr
11-11-2018, 5:39 PM
They're all the rage with the Amish in Ohio's Holmes County. I had no idea they were that expensive, given the Amish are very frugal as a rule. I wonder how they get around recharging the batteries since electricity is a no-no to most Amish...maybe with electricity from a gas-powered generator?

Irrationally to most of us, "English," several sects of Amish permit electricity that does not come from the grid. In parts of Lancaster county, solar electric is getting big with Amish folks. An acquaintance of mine built a bike with solar panels on it and incorporated a motor in the front axle. He took it to tide water Virginia where everything is flat. On a very bright September day, the thing would cruise along at about 7 MPH., but as soon as he passed into a long shady spot, like a tree lined street, the thing slowed to a stop and he had to pedal. I think an electric bike makes much sense for city folks and around small towns. Saw an electric motor scooter a few years ago. It looked much like a vespa with big bicycle wheels and was going far too quietly down the road at about 30 MPH. I did a double take on the thing. It did have a registration tag on the back. I did not think they were legal in this state. They should be, but the state DMV and legislature are dragging their feet. Frankly, I think those who lose their licenses to DUI, should be permitted to at least use a moped or electric bike to and from work.

Scott Donley
11-11-2018, 10:17 PM
396458Next year you can buy a Harley LiveWire electric motorcycle.

John K Jordan
11-12-2018, 8:43 AM
Visiting a friend in Italy I saw lots of electric bicycles in one city, often operated by older women, some on pedestrian-only streets/market areas. He said the bikes were a hazard since people walking couldn't hear them coming up fast behind them. Maybe those women won't start driving electric Harley's through the markets.

JKJ

Lee DeRaud
11-12-2018, 5:15 PM
396458Next year you can buy a Harley LiveWire electric motorcycle.Does it have a big out-of-balance flywheel to give you the true Harley experience? (duck and run :) )

Scott Donley
11-12-2018, 7:01 PM
No, but a large speaker system that you can play an MP3 of a loud thump, thump on a loop ":)

Roger Feeley
11-13-2018, 3:45 PM
Ha, brings back memories.

Some years ago, my daughter got a gig clerking for a judge in Pasadena CA. She didn't drive so dad had to figure out transportation to get her back and forth about a mile to work. An e-bike would have been ideal but she had to wear business attire including heels.

We found a 'bike' that really looked like a Vespa. The statute for bikes reads that it:
Mustn't exceed 20mph (thing had a governor).
Must be capable of being propelled by pedals.

No license or registration required.

That second item was the key. This beast weighed 175lbs. It came with some pedals under the seat that could be clipped into place in case the rider was hassled by the man. It also came with a laminated copy of the pertinent statute. You clip the pedals on, pedal it 5' and wish the officer a nice day.

The bike had a range of 20 miles so the mile to work and from work was not a problem. She charged it at the courthouse so fuel costs were zero.

The company was Velotec and is out of business, I think. We paid about $1500 for the bike. I was thrilled. I viewed it as $1500 for transportation for a year and that was a bargain. I would have been fine if it had gone up in smoke on the last day. I still would have gotten what I wanted. But we wound up selling it to some kid at the University of Kansas. I don't know what happened from there.

Bill Dufour
11-16-2018, 6:40 PM
Polaris who makes Indian and Victory Motorcycles bought a Swedish? electric truck maker. So they may come up with a electric motorcycle/snowmobile or ATV soon.
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