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Mike Racine
11-07-2018, 7:19 PM
Have the above RAS. Was cutting the other day and stop the saw for a new set up. Hit the start switch and nothing. As if I had unplugged it. So I went through all steps with the cap etc.. cont checks etc.. I got down to the over load switch. As you can see in the pic, I have 3 terminals. If I jump across 1 and 3 the motor starts up as usuall. This part cant not be found as I have searched high and low. My question is how does terminal 2 in the pic tie into the switch. I know the red wire runs from T2 back to the start winding which in turn goes back to the cap.
I was thiking to tie the 2 wires from T1 and T3 together but not sure what thats going to do to my T3 wire back to the cap.


Thoughts? Anyone have a wiring diagram lol. Cant find anything for parts anymore on this saw.


Model 113.197751


Thanks396237

Bill Dufour
11-07-2018, 7:24 PM
brand is "C"? Never heard of it. Do you mean Crescent or maybe California saw? What country and age is it from. looks fairly modern I am guessing 1960's or newer. Is it AC/DC or just AC?
Bill D.

Paul Stoops
11-07-2018, 7:45 PM
You might check this out: https://www.manualslib.com/products/Craftsman-113-197751-3565356.html

Van Huskey
11-07-2018, 7:57 PM
brand is "C"? Never heard of it. Do you mean Crescent or maybe California saw? What country and age is it from. looks fairly modern I am guessing 1960's or newer. Is it AC/DC or just AC?
Bill D.

Going on just odds it is a Craftsman, solidified by the 113.XXXXXX model number.

edit meant to add it is a thermal overload switch see if you can find a part number on it. It should be fairly easy to track down.

Lee Schierer
11-07-2018, 8:01 PM
If I remember correctly that is a push button over current switch. Have you tried pushing the red button to reset it?

Parts manual is here (https://www.searspartsdirect.com/model-number/113197751/0247/0744500.html?searchType=modelSearch&q=113.197751&searchTerm=113.197751).

Mike Racine
11-07-2018, 9:20 PM
Thanks all. Yes its a craftsman. Found out they used a Kilxon D157 and I will try and find one tomorrow. Id rather get a replacement rather than jump it over.

Lee Schierer
11-07-2018, 10:44 PM
Thanks all. Yes its a craftsman. Found out they used a Kilxon D157 and I will try and find one tomorrow. Id rather get a replacement rather than jump it over.

It is relatively easy to stall that saw and with no over current protection, the smoke will leak out of the motor very quickly.

Warren Lake
11-07-2018, 10:58 PM
some had bad overload switches, would have been smart for me to disconnect it rather than the frustration it caused. Switched to a skill saw and zero issues after that only used for rough cross cutting anyway and mine wasnt even good for that.

Mike Racine
11-08-2018, 8:14 AM
I was thinking maybe a quick blow fuse as I am having a hard time finding the switch. Anyone know what the numbers mean on these switches? Cat seem find that info....

Ken Combs
11-08-2018, 9:32 AM
I was thinking maybe a quick blow fuse as I am having a hard time finding the switch. Anyone know what the numbers mean on these switches? Cat seem find that info....
Looks like these folks may have what you need:
http://www.carbonbrush.com/klixonphenolicold.htm
The numbers probably relate to the current rating.

Mike Racine
11-08-2018, 10:04 AM
yeah I found that page too Ken. I need more numbers off my switch to see if I can match something up. SO many. lol

Lee Schierer
11-08-2018, 6:02 PM
yeah I found that page too Ken. I need more numbers off my switch to see if I can match something up. SO many. lol

I bet a single phone call to that company would get you exactly what you need if you know the amp draw and voltage for your motor.
by mail
Arrowhead Electric Company
13950 Rosecrans Ave Suite A
Santa Fe Springs CA 90670

by toll free
800-500-7311

by local call
562-921-8521

by fax
562-407-5182

by email
sales@carbonbrush.com

Mike Racine
11-09-2018, 11:41 AM
Yeah Lee I went up on there site and looked up the switch number. They have them and I have one in the mail. $42.00 Total. Just glad they still cry them. I luv my RAS even though most of the world hates them. lol

Mike Racine
11-15-2018, 9:15 AM
~~~UPDATE~~~~ In case someone searches for the same problem Ill throw in an update. The Thermal switch I ordered fixed my RAS. its good "new" now.

Thanks for all the imput!!!!!!!!!