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Bruce Page
10-28-2018, 2:40 PM
I am gradually loosing feeling/tactile touch in my hands. It’s hard to explain but basically it feels like I have a thin film of oil on my fingertips. Pushing sheet stock through on the TS is becoming uncomfortable. I would like to find some thin, comfortable, but durable sticky gloves. I was looking at the gloves that football players wear but would like other options.

Suggestions?

Paul F Franklin
10-28-2018, 2:50 PM
I don't think its a good idea to wear any kind of gloves when operating anywhere near the business end of moving machinery, from a safety perspective.

You'd be better off seeking the cause of your loss of feeling. Carpal tunnel syndrome is one common cause but there are many others.

Dave Cav
10-28-2018, 2:53 PM
I got a dozen PUG 17L gloves from Amazon. I wear them nearly all the time when handling rough lumber and sheet goods, including running rough stock through the table saw. (I generally don't use them when running the jointer or planer.) They are light, grippy and inexpensive enough to be considered disposable.

Mel Fulks
10-28-2018, 2:57 PM
I would use one of the many plastic types and keep a bag of base ball rosin handy for added grip. I won't use leather gloves except for rough rips on heavy material. Certainly hope you can find something cheap and Safe.

Ronald Blue
10-28-2018, 3:14 PM
I use these at work and really like them. They fit snuggly so you have great feel and the rubberized fingers and palm give you great grip. This isn't a great price but illustrate them well. Normally I would agree that in general gloves are not a good idea around rotating equipment. I don't feel these have the traits that normally make gloves a bad idea. If you get close enough that these put you at risk your going to draw blood anyway. They fit much like regular nitrile gloves.
https://www.constructiongear.com/flextech-hi-vis-thermal-lined-gloves.html?utm_source=googlepepla&utm_medium=adwords&id=413654308558&gclid=CjwKCAjwvNXeBRAjEiwAjqYhFr_ISFACZGjmaUK9dFPx D4US0JarmhLRZxtefOxMzofCZ5cHb17TPhoCEU4QAvD_BwE

Bruce Page
10-28-2018, 3:15 PM
I don't think its a good idea to wear any kind of gloves when operating anywhere near the business end of moving machinery, from a safety perspective.

You'd be better off seeking the cause of your loss of feeling. Carpal tunnel syndrome is one common cause but there are many others.

Paul, ordinarily I would agree with you. I have worked with industrial machinery most of my adult life and never thought wearing gloves was a good idea. However, yesterday I was cutting some large pieces of hardboard on the TS and I didn’t feel like I had good control pushing the hardboard through the blade with the palm of my hand. I have seen doctors about the numbness. I have zero feeling in my feet going up to my lower calf. You could stick me with a knife and I wouldn’t feel a thing. The cause is neurological, likely caused by some heavy metals that I worked with years ago. There is nothing that can be done to alleviate it.

Nick Decker
10-28-2018, 3:22 PM
These work well for me:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PBNAU92/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

They're grippier than my skin, which is very dry.

Mike Cutler
10-28-2018, 4:35 PM
Bruce

Look at the MaxiCut Ultra DT. Model 44-3445. We use them at work, even the machinist use them for some work. When they get dusty, the little "grippies" can slip a bit, but a wipe with alcohol and they're just as sticky as new.
Sorry to hear about your hands. I know you've worked with your hands your whole life. I hope you find a lasting solution.

BTW
I use them a lot.
They're close fittings, so I don't worry as much about them getting caught up in a machine.

Jack Lemley
10-28-2018, 5:57 PM
I have used these https://www.homedepot.com/p/Grease-Monkey-Medium-Coated-Gripping-Glove-25052-030/202709678 for years now. Good grip, tight fit and thin enough to allow for good dexterity.I wear them when using my table saw, band saw, and router table with no safety concerns all. I only have one hand so I am pretty partial to is so safety is supreme.

Jack

Jim Morgan
10-28-2018, 6:14 PM
One of the dangers of neuropathy is that ability to sense pain is diminished; sufferers may not notice injuries. Wearing gloves in such circumstances might be doubly dangerous.

An alternative is to seek out alternative methods of work. Many people use track saws to break down sheet goods; these do not pose nearly the dangers that table saws do. Or you might consider a small power feeder to keep your hands safely out of harm's way.

Bruce Page
10-28-2018, 7:37 PM
James, I consider the gloves a safety enhancement, not a risk. I don’t cut sheet stock often, especially slick hardboard sheets like I was cutting yesterday. In cutting them, my hands are always several inches from the blade. I just need more tactile grip when pushing stock against the fence and through the blade. 99+% of my TS work is with miter gage, push blocks, push sticks and sleds.

As to peripheral neuropathy, it is something I have been dealing with for almost 20 years. It just started progressing to my hands three years ago, as the neurologist said it would.


Thanks all for the great info and links. I will read up and buy a few different types. I might stop by a sporting goods store and check out the NFL gloves. At 68 (next Friday) I might even get a good laugh from the clerk..:rolleyes::eek:

Ralph Okonieski
10-28-2018, 8:04 PM
I use mechanics gloves from many different places. They are relatively low cost and readily available. I do not use them all the time but there are times, such as you described, that I do not feel like I am in control of the wood. However, in those cases I slow down and make sure the process is as safe as possible.

Kevin Jenness
10-28-2018, 8:25 PM
Bruce, like you I have peripheral neuropathy that has migrated into my hands. Sucks, doesn't it? Besides the loss of sensitivity, my hands feel cold most of the time so whenever the temperature is below 65 I wear gloves. I have been using these P-grip gloves https://www.amazon.com/Liberty-Ultra-Thin-Polyurethane-Glove-Polyester/dp/B01N9GMUL9/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1540771946&sr=8-4&keywords=p-grip+gloves for a while. They give a slightly increased grip and they fit snugly. I don't like wearing gloves in the shop, but these seem relatively safe and are quite affordable. Good luck.

Bruce Page
10-28-2018, 8:40 PM
Thanks Kevin, you sure can't beat the price can you. How long do they last and do your hands get sweaty like with nitrile gloves? I wear the nitrile gloves for finishing but I usually can't get them off fast enough. Yeah, between the neuropathy and my tinnitus I could really use an overhaul. Fortunately, I don't have any problems with the cold, at least not yet.

marlin adams
10-28-2018, 10:44 PM
So do I and as a diabitic I understand what you are going thru. I been using mechanics gloves for a long time and operated machinery with them. You just have to pay extra attention when working the machinery and make sure the ones you get fit snuggly.

Justin Koenen
10-28-2018, 11:22 PM
I'm 83 with Type II diabetes and my skin is loosing its grip. I visit the local Dollar Tree and buy a half dozen of their dollar "grip" gloves. They last quite a while & then grab a new pair. Am in the shop daily and wear gloves a lot. They fit tight so loose material is not a problem. Just follow normal safety practices. Justin

Wayne Cannon
10-29-2018, 1:03 AM
Boy, any glove that doesn't rip/tear off [trivially] easily would make me very nervous around any power equipment. If even a small tip of a glove gets caught, it can pull the rest of your hand into the blade, or yank a finger (or more) off, just like jewelry. No one is careless on purpose, that's why they are called "accidents".

On the other hand, I've used the "liquid gloves" for auto work (available at most any hardware or auto parts store). It goes on like lotion and dries to a slightly tacky coating on your hands (and washes of easily). This kind of product might give you the tack that you are looking for without the danger or sweatiness.

Rick Potter
10-29-2018, 2:53 AM
Perhaps a good push block with sticky rubber would be a good answer?

dan petroski
10-29-2018, 8:15 AM
Use them all the time. Medical issues. By them by the dozen winter and sommer ones. Couple bucks a pair. Dan

Yonak Hawkins
10-29-2018, 10:57 AM
James, I consider the gloves a safety enhancement, not a risk.

I agree with you, Bruce. I use gloves for almost every operation in the shop. I have several different styles of gloves for different uses. Gloves have saved my hands from injury many times and I have never had a close call because of wearing gloves. When my hands are going to be near a moving blade I like to use skin-tight gloves with good grip.

Jim Becker
10-29-2018, 12:18 PM
While I only use gloves when face jointing some rough material that's hard to get a grip on without getting splinters, I can appreciate your situation Bruce and agree that (careful) use of gloves to be able to grip the slippery materail with your particular physical issue is a reasonable solution. I use that stuff for the photo panels I make for a local photographer and it is indeed slick.

Patrick Kane
10-29-2018, 1:00 PM
Ive always been warned of loose clothes, hair, gloves etc., but i somewhat disagree with everyone saying tight fitting gloves are a danger. Wearing gloves while feeding rough lumber into a planer is risky? Even at the TS i find it difficult to imagine a situation where a tight fitting glove causing an otherwise avoidable injury. 99% of the time i wear gloves while handling and processing rough lumber. Once it is milled, i actually find i get a better grip and control with bare hands, but a few hours of handling rough lumber does a number to bare hands. The splinters and micro cuts/tears develop quickly on my unprotected hands. I dont go out of my way to read about workplace injuries, but all the stories i know of involving people pulled into machines center around one tool--the lathe. I remember when i was in college the shop manager berated us all over hair and clothing after a girl at yale had her hair pulled into a lathe late at night. Killed her unfortunately. I never wear gloves while turning for that reason.

Martin Wasner
10-29-2018, 10:31 PM
Other than handling lumber, I would not allow anyone to wear gloves. As someone already said, a glove that tears away trivially would be okay. Something like a nitril glove might give you some added grip with no chance of anything getting pulled in. They would tear about as easily as your flesh. Anything else that's more robust would make me squeamish.

As far as feeding into a planer, skin on skin let the love begin. I've ripped my skin away when it's gotten skewered on the work piece when dealing with power fed equipment before. Generally your grip isn't tight at all, but that could go poorly in a hurry wrapping them in cloth or leather that's way more durable than you are.

Kevin Jenness
10-30-2018, 7:05 AM
Bruce, the P-grips are very breathable. I get about a week out of them. There are plenty of gloves with more grip, but these fit my stubby fingers snugly. I would recommend trying different types to find the best fit.

Loose fitting gloves are definitely a hazard. One of my workmates lost a fingertip to the jointer when it sucked in his glove- he only lost 3/8" off his digit, but the glove's finger was completely gone. I wouldn't wear gloves if I didn't feel it necessary.

Bob Grier
10-30-2018, 7:44 AM
I have nephropathy and other nerve issues. I have worn nitrile gloves for many years due to loss of strength in my hands. Today I am 2 weeks post cervical surgery to remove pressure on the nerve. My hands and fingers are stronger and more agile post surgery but I continue to wear nitrile gloves because they do increase my ability to grip and to control the feed of lumber through various tools.

I wear heavier gloves when moving lumber such as on a buying trip. Nitrile gloves don't last long and I may go through several in short order but I can live with the expense. More sturdy gloves might provide better hand protection and still be a safety improvement due to better control but they are also a disaster if they get into machinery. I would feel queasy wearing gloves sturdier than something like nitrile gloves while using machinery. I don't think it is a good habit to form.

The cervical surgery also seems to have reduced the numbness, cold, and pain from a large part of my feet and also to have removed pain in abdomen area, butt, and leg. My leg muscles are actually complaining loudly now that I am using them more than my arms to get up and down. It is a good feeling to be building muscle in legs. I do have to wear a neck brace for 30 days but not when eating, showering, etc. That is a small price to pay for what I am feeling. Maybe I will be able to play golf again.

Mike Ontko
10-30-2018, 11:31 AM
I would use one of the many plastic types and keep a bag of base ball rosin handy for added grip.

baseball rosin - what a great idea! I use a tight-fitting pair of nitrile palmed stretch knit gloves when I'm working with rough cut wood. It's been especially helpful with my latest project, which involves a lot of red oak--splintery stuff. But once I get it over the jointer and through the planer, I take the gloves off before I take it to the tablesaw for final sizing.

Bruce Page
11-02-2018, 7:17 PM
Just an FYI update: I took Nick’s advice and bought a 3 pack of the 34-844/L MaxiFlex Endurance Knit Gloves. They’re a huge improvement in feel pushing the tempered hardboard against the fence and through the blade. I can’t complain about the price at $15 for a 3 pack, they’re comfortable too.