Drew Walton
10-25-2018, 4:04 PM
Hello Creekers,
Recently I had made a post seeking advice about a possible table-saw purchase of a Delta table-saw and I got a lot of good information from the folks here about it. Unfortunately, after confirming the saw was still available, the seller was, apparently, upset by my counter-offer and went into radio-silence following that contact (I don't, in fact, know this was the reason but the timing works out). And there were other potentials that I had considered that didn't work out either.
Eventually I found a posting for a Craftsman 113.298032 saw that came with a 52" Biesmeyer fence, a (mostly) new diablo dado stack, a few other blades, a custom, wood, right hand extension table that went the length of the fence rail, and a few other goodies.
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All's good so far.
I start fiddling around with it and I look down the throat and I see something odd. There are two flat washers sandwiched between the arbor collar and the blade.
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Immediately I remove them and notice that there is a large amount of space on the arbor between the flange and the thread so I try mounting the blade without the washers and find that the threads don't extend far enough down for the nut to secure the blade.
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So now I'm thinking that the previous owner (who had told me he'd changed out the arbor and motor bearings at some point) had probably jacked up the flange while removing the original arbor bearings, and that I'm going to have to pull the arbor, get a gear puller, and pull the flange back down the arbor. Also, I'm thinking that since the flange is in the wrong place that means that the bearings aren't seated properly on the arbor either so I'm going to have to reseat them as well. So I gird my loins and pull the carriage assembly so I can get a better look at it.
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So far so good. I can see what looks to be a mark indicating the original position on the arbor of the flange.
For no particular reason I reach in and just grab the flange. From what I've read, I think it should be (pretty much) static on the arbor, but it's not: it's tight on there but if you treat it gently it moves without much force and will even come off.
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As of now, the carriage is sitting in my garage with the flange attached and pushed all the way to the bearing.
So now, because I know a lot of people have had these 113 saws, I'm here to ask the experts some advice.
I'm assuming that using the saw with the flat washers between the collar and blade is a bad idea. If I take out the arbor, and reseat the bearings so that they're in the proper position and get everything put back together correctly, I'm still left with a loose (sort of) flange. Is this usable? Is the arbor flange supposed to have some movement to it or is it supposed to be basically locked to the arbor? Do I need to buy a new arbor assembly entirely?
Thanks in advance.
-Drew
Recently I had made a post seeking advice about a possible table-saw purchase of a Delta table-saw and I got a lot of good information from the folks here about it. Unfortunately, after confirming the saw was still available, the seller was, apparently, upset by my counter-offer and went into radio-silence following that contact (I don't, in fact, know this was the reason but the timing works out). And there were other potentials that I had considered that didn't work out either.
Eventually I found a posting for a Craftsman 113.298032 saw that came with a 52" Biesmeyer fence, a (mostly) new diablo dado stack, a few other blades, a custom, wood, right hand extension table that went the length of the fence rail, and a few other goodies.
395449
All's good so far.
I start fiddling around with it and I look down the throat and I see something odd. There are two flat washers sandwiched between the arbor collar and the blade.
395450395451
Immediately I remove them and notice that there is a large amount of space on the arbor between the flange and the thread so I try mounting the blade without the washers and find that the threads don't extend far enough down for the nut to secure the blade.
395452395453
So now I'm thinking that the previous owner (who had told me he'd changed out the arbor and motor bearings at some point) had probably jacked up the flange while removing the original arbor bearings, and that I'm going to have to pull the arbor, get a gear puller, and pull the flange back down the arbor. Also, I'm thinking that since the flange is in the wrong place that means that the bearings aren't seated properly on the arbor either so I'm going to have to reseat them as well. So I gird my loins and pull the carriage assembly so I can get a better look at it.
395454
So far so good. I can see what looks to be a mark indicating the original position on the arbor of the flange.
For no particular reason I reach in and just grab the flange. From what I've read, I think it should be (pretty much) static on the arbor, but it's not: it's tight on there but if you treat it gently it moves without much force and will even come off.
395455395456
As of now, the carriage is sitting in my garage with the flange attached and pushed all the way to the bearing.
So now, because I know a lot of people have had these 113 saws, I'm here to ask the experts some advice.
I'm assuming that using the saw with the flat washers between the collar and blade is a bad idea. If I take out the arbor, and reseat the bearings so that they're in the proper position and get everything put back together correctly, I'm still left with a loose (sort of) flange. Is this usable? Is the arbor flange supposed to have some movement to it or is it supposed to be basically locked to the arbor? Do I need to buy a new arbor assembly entirely?
Thanks in advance.
-Drew