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David M Peters
08-30-2018, 9:29 AM
I've had the step jaws (http://www.packardwoodworks.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=packard&Product_Code=118104&Category_Code=chuck-fourjaw-vm-vic100jaws) for my VM100 for about a year and finally used one of the inner jaws for the steep-sided bowl seen below. The versatility of the jaws seemed like a great idea, but the smaller jaws are recessed enough to make them only usable if you plan ahead and make an extra-long tenon or do work that fits in there - vases, goblets, or steep bowls.

Your thoughts on this style of chuck jaw?

Here I'm using the smallest of the jaws to grip a tenon.

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John K Jordan
08-30-2018, 10:01 AM
I bought some years ago and use them only rarely, when I don't have other jaws that fit.

The problem with simply making a longer tenon to fit in a recessed step is you have to first make a tenon then another with a carefully flattened surface just outside the tenon to bear against the front surface of the step. Since the bottom of the tenon should never touch the jaws, simply using a longer tenon won't allow precise mounting.

I haven't looked at them in a while but for some reason I can't remember now the stepped jaws I have (Nova) didn't give me a lot of confidence in the holding power. I'd be interested in what others say.

JKJ


I've had the step jaws (http://www.packardwoodworks.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=packard&Product_Code=118104&Category_Code=chuck-fourjaw-vm-vic100jaws) for my VM100 for about a year and finally used one of the inner jaws for the steep-sided bowl seen below. The versatility of the jaws seemed like a great idea, but the smaller jaws are recessed enough to make them only usable if you plan ahead and make an extra-long tenon or do work that fits in there - vases, goblets, or steep bowls.

Your thoughts on this style of chuck jaw?

Here I'm using the smallest of the jaws to grip a tenon.

392520

Robert Henrickson
08-30-2018, 11:08 AM
I've had the step jaws (http://www.packardwoodworks.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=packard&Product_Code=118104&Category_Code=chuck-fourjaw-vm-vic100jaws) for my VM100 for about a year and finally used one of the inner jaws for the steep-sided bowl seen below. The versatility of the jaws seemed like a great idea, but the smaller jaws are recessed enough to make them only usable if you plan ahead and make an extra-long tenon or do work that fits in there - vases, goblets, or steep bowls. Your thoughts on this style of chuck jaw?


I've had step jaws which came as part of a multiple jaw set for at least several years. I have yet to use them once. I've looked at them a number of times, but always seemed to find simpler alternatives using other jaws.

Roger Chandler
08-30-2018, 11:16 AM
I have a set on one of my SuperNova2 chucks. I have found a few times when I used them when I had to remount a form on the lathe, because of some unseen tearout that needed to be dealt with after I had taken the nub off the bottom. I have used them a couple times in expansion mode, as they have a dovetail on the outer edge of the jaws on the Nova system.

They are not used nearly as much as my other jaw sets, but do come in handy on occasion.

Robert Hayward
08-30-2018, 7:24 PM
I do not own any step jaws because I never could figure out what they were good for. Seems it would better to put a better fitting set of jaws on the chuck. What is the intended purpose of step jaws ? The logic behind the design ?

Robert Henrickson
08-30-2018, 7:29 PM
I do not own any step jaws because I never could figure out what they were good for. Seems it would better to put a better fitting set of jaws on the chuck. What is the intended purpose of step jaws ? The logic behind the design ?

Exactly my reaction.

John K Jordan
08-30-2018, 8:16 PM
I do not own any step jaws because I never could figure out what they were good for. Seems it would better to put a better fitting set of jaws on the chuck. What is the intended purpose of step jaws ? The logic behind the design ?

They are a not-particularly-well-thought-out design intended to give let you three different tenon sizes with one set of jaws. Probably the most useful as a 65mm jaw.

I bought them (when they were a little cheaper) to evaluate. I'd trade them for a good story or a chunk of wood.

JKJ

Bill Boehme
08-31-2018, 1:23 AM
Another problem with the step jaws is that you can't get very close to the tenon with any turning tool. So, if you are trying to refine the curve on the exterior you're stuck with Plan B. (This isn't a good enough story, John K. J.) :D

Kyle Iwamoto
08-31-2018, 1:26 AM
Yep. What everyone else said. I have a set, can't figure what they are good for........
Perhaps IF they were the ONLY set of jaws you have, they would be useful. And I mean that in a good way.

David M Peters
08-31-2018, 12:47 PM
Thanks for all the responses, guys. I can see them being created back when it was less common to have multiple jaw sets or much less multiple chuck bodies.