Veritas shooting board fence

[Mark Rainey]

Just saw a picture of the new Veritas shooting board fence. Looks like it would really help make a multifunctional shooting board. Any thoughts on this?

[Frederick Skelly]

Yes, if you do a lot of angles. But all I do is 90* and 45*. So I made my own board and miter fixture like the one shown on LN's site. Link (https://www.lie-nielsen.com/product/no.-51-shoot-board-plane-). (The plan is at the bottom where it says "Click here to download plans to make your own shooting board.")

It also occurred to me that an old Miter Gauge I have could be called into service to work like the new LV shooting board fence.

Fred

[john zulu]

I have the shooting plane. The miter depends your usage. The maximum stock thickness would be 3/4 inch.

[glenn bradley]

It is a sweet looking item and I am sure it is built to a high standard of quality. I would have to need to shoot a much wider variety of angles than I currently do to get good use of it. If I found myself having to constantly come up with ways of shooting a variety of angles I would drop the money in a heartbeat. The savings in time would pay for that quickly . . . if I had that need.

[Jim Koepke]

It also occurred to me that an old Miter Gauge I have could be called into service to work like the new LV shooting board fence.

Might work for light work, but it might not be able to stand up to a lot of impact without affecting the setting.

A feature of the Veritas® Shooting Board Fence is by being in the middle of the deck it is set for both right and left hand use with one setting on the most commonly used 45º shooting angle. At other angles it would be set for complementary angles, two angles that add up to 90º.

Derek Cohen has an adjustable fence shooting board on his inthewoodshop.com site.

jtk

[Malcolm Schweizer]

It is an answer to prayers. Okay, maybe not quite that, but I was designing something that could be set at various angles. This is pretty much what I had in mind, only slightly smaller. Mine was a huge fence on a 24" square board. I think this is just fine. I was thinking of long boards, and mine had hold-downs but I do believe I suffered from overthink. I'm now just debating over the fence or just get the whole shooting board and spend time making stuff instead of making another shooting board.

[Phil Mueller]

I’m in the same place, Malcolm. It’s currently sitting in my shopping cart.

[Hasin Haroon]

I checked it out at the store when I went to pick up the pocket plane. It feels quite solid and well made. I wouldn't worry about it losing its setting, especially since it indents every 10 degrees (or could've been 5, I didn't spend too much time with it). I have an extra miter gauge from my table saw that I was planning to incorporate into a shooting board, but it has me thinking about whether this might be better.

[Malcolm Schweizer]

I really like this shooting grip... http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?p=77042&cat=51&ap=1
I just can't figure one thing out- they say it can be used on the jack rabbet plane. Seems a rabbet plane would not work on a shooting board. There would be no edge beside the blade to register to the board and it would just keep cutting into the shooting board. Am I missing something? Still a great add-on for their other planes. Maybe you could use it on the rabbet plane for some function other than shooting. I use my Veritas Jack Rabbet for chamfering edges and for making ship laps.

[Hilton Ralphs]

There would be no edge beside the blade to register to the board and it would just keep cutting into the shooting board. Am I missing something?

Assuming the blade was flush with the body and the scoring spurs were retracted, maybe it will work? Worth a try though and that shooting grip looks dead sexy. This seems like a cool way to shoot left if you already own a right shooting plane.

[Derek Cohen]

I really like this shooting grip... http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?p=77042&cat=51&ap=1
I just can't figure one thing out- they say it can be used on the jack rabbet plane. Seems a rabbet plane would not work on a shooting board. There would be no edge beside the blade to register to the board and it would just keep cutting into the shooting board. Am I missing something? ....

Well Malcolm, if it can't be done, someone forgot to tell me :D

Taken from my review (http://www.inthewoodshop.com/ToolReviews/VeritasJackRabbetPlane.html) of the Jack Rabbet Plane ...

http://www.inthewoodshop.com/ToolReviews/VeritasJackRabbetPlane_html_m478c065b.jpg

Simply add a wooden base to the plane. Fortunately there are handy bolt holes (for the fence arms) just in the right position. If you want to do the same, the threads are 10-32.


http://www.inthewoodshop.com/ToolReviews/VeritasJackRabbetPlane_html_m2c7e6ce4.jpg


http://www.inthewoodshop.com/ToolReviews/VeritasJackRabbetPlane_html_m7fb6e419.jpg


Used on my shooting board, which has a “running fence (http://www.inthewoodshop.com/ShopMadeTools/RunningFencefortheShootingBoard.html) or side fence” ala the Stanley #52 chute board, it is an advantage to rotate the handles into a copy of the Stanley #51 shooting plane. Used this way, the Jack Rabbet is easy to push and performs very well. The cutting angle here is 40 degrees (15 degree bed + 25 degree bevel). Below the shavings of Jarrah end grain …


http://www.inthewoodshop.com/ToolReviews/VeritasJackRabbetPlane_html_4d8399a9.jpg

Regards from Perth

Derek

[john zulu]

Well Malcolm, if it can't be done, someone forgot to tell me :D

Taken from my review (http://www.inthewoodshop.com/ToolReviews/VeritasJackRabbetPlane.html) of the Jack Rabbet Plane ...

http://www.inthewoodshop.com/ToolReviews/VeritasJackRabbetPlane_html_m478c065b.jpg

Simply add a wooden base to the plane. Fortunately there are handy bolt holes (for the fence arms) just in the right position. If you want to do the same, the threads are 10-32.


http://www.inthewoodshop.com/ToolReviews/VeritasJackRabbetPlane_html_m2c7e6ce4.jpg


http://www.inthewoodshop.com/ToolReviews/VeritasJackRabbetPlane_html_m7fb6e419.jpg


Used on my shooting board, which has a “running fence (http://www.inthewoodshop.com/ShopMadeTools/RunningFencefortheShootingBoard.html) or side fence” ala the Stanley #52 chute board, it is an advantage to rotate the handles into a copy of the Stanley #51 shooting plane. Used this way, the Jack Rabbet is easy to push and performs very well. The cutting angle here is 40 degrees (15 degree bed + 25 degree bevel). Below the shavings of Jarrah end grain …


http://www.inthewoodshop.com/ToolReviews/VeritasJackRabbetPlane_html_4d8399a9.jpg

Regards from Perth

Derek

I am curious can the bolts take the slamming at the end grain? That part worries me. Shooting end grain is not a gentle activity.

[Derek Cohen]

I am curious can the bolts take the slamming at the end grain? That part worries me. Shooting end grain is not a gentle activity.

John, shooting should never be hard work. It should be light and easy. If you are slamming, then you are doing it the hard way.

If your blade is sharp, and the depth of cut is appropriate - that is, a thin shaving, since one does not take more than this when shooting end grain - it should be possible to line the blade's edge up with the work piece, and then since push it through to the other side. No run up. No slamming.

In any event, there is no stress on the bolts, themselves. They are not involved - simply attaching the base to the body. If there is stress, it would be with the base of the handle.

Regards from Perth

Derek

[Phil Mueller]

John, I won’t speak for Derek, but I don’t find end grain shooting to be aggressive, or slamming. A sharp iron and thin setting is more like a nice slicing. I have a similar set up as Derek (a side fence) and there is no movement or undo stress on the fence.

[Malcolm Schweizer]

Derek, that is a great idea. I already have the Veritas shooting plane, but that idea makes the Jack rabbet an even better value for someone that needs a shooting plane. Add the new grip and it is perfect.

[john zulu]

Looks like I need to sharpen the blade more often. End grain wears down the edge quickly over here in Malaysia.

[Hilton Ralphs]

Derek, that is a great idea. I already have the Veritas shooting plane, but that idea makes the Jack rabbet an even better value for someone that needs a shooting plane. Add the new grip and it is perfect.

From what I can work out, if you have the bevel up jointer, the grip will also fit that. Seems like a great way to get left shooting going.

[J. Greg Jones]

From what I can work out, if you have the bevel up jointer, the grip will also fit that. Seems like a great way to get left shooting going.
Assuming it would bolt on the BU Jointer, I don't think that would be a good choice for a shooting plane. The BU Jointer has a tiny registration face on the sides, really only machined enough to bolt up a fence. For that same reason I don't think my BU Jointer makes a great jointer plane either, as one cannot tilt it to one side to see if the work surface is flat.

[Derek Cohen]

From what I can work out, if you have the bevel up jointer, the grip will also fit that. Seems like a great way to get left shooting going.

Hilton, I think that you meant to write "bevel down jointer" :)

Otherwise, yes, this fence is designed for a plane that goes both directions, such as this ...

https://s19.postimg.cc/tcgow9go3/A10c_zps9d2319e8.jpg

Set the blade, and if it is a smidgeon off square, the result from shooting from each side will be a complementary angle that adds up to a perfect 90 degrees.

Regards from Perth

Derek

[Phil Mueller]

Have to agree with Greg regarding the BU jointer as it is, however, it wouldn’t be too difficult to route out a recess in a custom side fence to accomodate the small registration area on the plane.

[Mike Berti]

Sorry for the dumb question, but I can’t find any new shooting board fence on Veritas (or Lee Valey) website. All I see are the old tracks. What new products are available? Can someone post a link?

[Mike Berti]

Sorry for the dumb question, but I can’t find any new shooting board fence on Veritas (or Lee Valey) website. All I see are the old tracks. What new products are available? Can someone post a link?

[Peter Christensen]

When you go to the site there is a What’s New area in the upper left. Click on the Woodworking and a new page opens with all the new stuff.

[Mark Rainey]

And is this instead of The Stanley 52 which no one is making?

[Simon MacGowen]

SOLD OUT!!!

Want one? Wait till mid October (backorder).

Simon

[Mike Berti]

Thank you. It is quite narrow...

[Derek Cohen]

And is this instead of The Stanley 52 which no one is making?

Actually Mark, as an owner of a Stanley #52, I think the Veritas is a better and more versatile design. The #52 can only be used on one side.

Regards from Perth

Derek

[john zulu]

Actually Mark, as an owner of a Stanley #52, I think the Veritas is a better and more versatile design. The #52 can only be used on one side.

Regards from Perth

Derek

Derek, you plan to release your review of the fence and the new hand plane 40 years anniversary?

[Derek Cohen]

John, I do not have the fence, although Rob Lee sent me pictures of it prior to its release. I do have the pocket block plane (not the anniversary version), and have taken some photos of it being used in my current build.

Regards from Perth

Derek

[Mark Rainey]

It certainly looks versatile - a video of a demonstration on the LV site would be very helpful