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Derek Cohen
07-25-2018, 10:45 AM
When you see shavings like this ...


https://s19.postimg.cc/jzgatcdcj/1-1a.jpg


... you know a skew rebate plane is at work.


https://s19.postimg.cc/hi4jm38vn/2a.jpg


Shiplapping is the joining of boards using an overlapped rebate. The advantage of this is to allow for movement while presenting an outward solid and sealed surface.


https://s19.postimg.cc/83z49gegz/create-an-accent-wall-with-shiplap-102771988.jpg


The rebate is on each, but opposite sides of the board. In this case, I have made the rebate 10mm wide. This will allow for an overlap of about 7-8mm.


Here I have made use of sections of Black Walnut that would otherwise be considered offcuts ...


https://s19.postimg.cc/kc7ozjirn/4a.jpg


The boards are 6mm thick, and each rebate is just 3mm high ...


https://s19.postimg.cc/w1bonhev7/1a.jpg


Planing take a few minutes with the Veritas Skew Rabbet plane ...


https://s19.postimg.cc/uz1i4yymr/3a.jpg


When the carcass was dovetailed together, allowance was made for a rebate all around the rear of the chest. This required that the area close to the pins was left uncut ...


https://s19.postimg.cc/5mfymb2bn/9a.jpg


... which can be seen at the corners ..


https://s19.postimg.cc/7xkwz7btv/5a.jpg


The waste was now chiselled out ...


https://s19.postimg.cc/o8l0vjqwj/6a.jpg


The boards could now be cut to length and fitted. The rebate gap between boards was set with a spacer ...


https://s19.postimg.cc/yinfusw7n/8a.jpg


No glue is used as the boards are free to expand into the gap. A single screw holds them close to the overlap ...


https://s19.postimg.cc/6vaqgpiqr/9a.jpg


Done ...


https://s19.postimg.cc/l1qhbwyqr/7a.jpg


And no one will see any of this :o

Regards from Perth


Derek

David Eisenhauer
07-25-2018, 11:05 AM
Thanks for the continuing progress photos/description Derek. I still lust for a skewed blade style rebate plane.

steven c newman
07-25-2018, 11:25 AM
Have watched Ishitani use a splined version for the backs he makes.....narrow groove along each side of the boards for the back...connected with a spline...no glue used.

Derek Cohen
07-25-2018, 11:30 AM
Steven, yes. I have also done this with tongue-and-grooved boards. However they were thicker than those used here.

http://www.inthewoodshop.com/Furniture/TheCompletedChests_html_247242f.jpg

Regards from Perth

Derek

Dave Cav
07-25-2018, 1:04 PM
Nice work; no one but you and the final owner will see it, but it's nice to do anyway. I built a large entertainment unit a few years ago and did ship lap frame and panel backs for it; Three or four separate panels, I believe, with the lapped sections captured in a rabbet top and bottom. It looked very nice, but when the owner put a sound bar in the cabinet and turned up the volume (and bass) the individual slats rattled like crazy. A small screw top and bottom as you did probably would have helped. Next time (on an entertainment unit, anyway) I'll have to use ply...

Jeff Ranck
07-25-2018, 5:10 PM
So I can't quite tell, but are the rebates on both sides of the board the same width? It almost looks like they have two different widths.

Jeff

Dave Cav
07-25-2018, 5:46 PM
Could we see the front of the chest and drawers?

Derek Cohen
07-25-2018, 7:37 PM
So I can't quite tell, but are the rebates on both sides of the board the same width? It almost looks like they have two different widths.

Jeff

Hi Jeff

The boards are different widths. The rebates are all 10mm wide and 3mm deep. They are on alternating sides of the boards, with the exception of the two on the ends, where there is no rebate needed on the outside.

Regards from Perth

Derek

Derek Cohen
07-25-2018, 7:39 PM
Could we see the front of the chest and drawers?

Dave, there are many pictures of the front in previos posts. I have not yet installed the new knobs. The drawer fronts need to be drilled for a 3/8" tenon, and thus requires a jig. I shall do it on the weekend. At this time I have begun work on the base for the chest.

Regards from Perth

Derek

Dave Cav
07-26-2018, 1:13 AM
Thanks, very nice. I don't come around to this forum often enough, apparently.

Blair Swanson
07-26-2018, 10:51 AM
I really enjoy the random width effect of the back boards Derek. Thanks for your effort in documenting this entire project. Well done on both accounts! I can even smell the wood. :D

Blair.

Tom Bender
07-28-2018, 2:21 PM
The back of my desk has loose shiplapped boards. They cover a shallow electrical chase in the back of the desk. I can leave one out to accommodate plugging in to an outlet and still push the desk tight to the wall.

Christopher Charles
07-29-2018, 6:55 PM
Hello Derek,

Those shavings make me itch to get back into my shop, which is almost back to basic functionality...

A bit surprised you didn't clock those screws that no one will see given crispness of the design and execution :)

Best,
C

Derek Cohen
07-29-2018, 10:37 PM
As requested by a number of people, I have clocked the screws at the rear of cabinet. Gad, some are so OCD! :D


https://s19.postimg.cc/g2j9fvwj7/Case-back1.jpg


https://s19.postimg.cc/cvopw9jsz/Case-back2.jpg


One coat of oil so far ..


https://s19.postimg.cc/tw7m4y4k3/Case-back3.jpg


Regards from Perth


Derek

David Myers
07-29-2018, 11:03 PM
Beautiful, Derek.

By the way, my daughter's Girl Scout troop raised funds for a trip to London and Paris. While in England we visited Windsor Castle. The following may shock and dismay many here: the Queen's screws were not clocked (on the switchplates for the lights).

And the applied Oak molding on one of the interior doors had visible nail holes.

Please try to contain your horror, fellow creekers.

Jim Koepke
07-29-2018, 11:48 PM
Gad, some are so OCD! :D

We prefer CDO so the letters are in order. ;)

jtk

Christopher Charles
07-30-2018, 1:29 AM
Thanks Derek, I'll sleep better tonight :)

Kees Heiden
07-30-2018, 2:56 AM
Clocking screws is one of these Victorian era idiosyncrasies. Before that time they prefered screws to be properly fastened.

Derek Cohen
07-30-2018, 8:47 AM
Kees, I'm just responding to the nagging - I grew tired of being harassed to clock the bloody screws. :D

Regards from Perth

Derek

Kees Heiden
07-30-2018, 10:04 AM
Yes, I know ;)

Axel de Pugey
07-30-2018, 10:10 AM
Thank you Derek.

I am always scared of potential cupping with such a thickness/width ratio.
I guess this can only be made with quarter sawn stock, am I correct?

Bill Dufour
07-30-2018, 12:18 PM
I am rebuiding a wooden fence and I will be adding tongue and groove to each board. Stronger then shiplap. But i am lazy and I will take half the boards and run a tongue on each side. Then on the other half I will run grooves. This reduce handling the boards in the shop by quite a bit.
Bill D.