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Matt Mattingley
07-18-2018, 12:44 AM
Who has has one and who wants one???

Those that have, willing to help out those who want???

Those who want and those who have that are willing to participate with numbers are all welcome.

The idea here is to try to reproduce the sought after quadrant.

Van Huskey
07-18-2018, 7:12 AM
Don't have one, will want one if I ever get a big old saw like a PK, that probably won't happen though. Good luck with the quest, some people will be happy if you accomplish it.

Rollie Kelly
07-18-2018, 7:49 AM
Add me to the want list.

Jamie Buxton
07-18-2018, 11:06 AM
There's a third group of poeple: those who have no idea what a Tannewitz quadrant is. I know who Tannewitz is, but what is a quadrant in this context?

Van Huskey
07-18-2018, 11:38 AM
There's a third group of poeple: those who have no idea what a Tannewitz quadrant is. I know who Tannewitz is, but what is a quadrant in this context?

Here ya go

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Matt Mattingley
07-18-2018, 12:22 PM
Van, that is not the Tannewitz quadrant. That is a Wadkin PK & PP quadrant.

This is a Tannewitz quadrant.
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Van Huskey
07-18-2018, 12:25 PM
Van, that is not the Tannewitz quadrant. That is a Wadkin PK & PP quadrant.

This is a Tannewitz quadrant.
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My bad I could have swore the Tanny was built similar to the Wadkin. Learned something new today.

Just realized I am in the 4th group of people, those that think they know what one is... :o

Jamie Buxton
07-18-2018, 2:13 PM
So it is a miter gauge, right? And it sets some angles with a pin into a hole into a sliding table?

David Kumm
07-18-2018, 10:11 PM
The English and Euro machines favored the double quadrant which is really the most versatile choice. US manufacturers generally just used a single quadrant. If the operator wasn't careful he could saw through the back half when not paying attention so a complete unit is rare. The quadrant and table holes and etchings were matched to each machine so some reworking needs to be done if replacing. Kind of like onboard grinders for jointers and planers. Each were set precisely and pinned into place so they are not plug and play when substituting. Dave

Matt Mattingley
07-18-2018, 10:46 PM
The English and Euro machines favored the double quadrant which is really the most versatile choice. US manufacturers generally just used a single quadrant. If the operator wasn't careful he could saw through the back half when not paying attention so a complete unit is rare. The quadrant and table holes and etchings were matched to each machine so some reworking needs to be done if replacing. Kind of like onboard grinders for jointers and planers. Each were set precisely and pinned into place so they are not plug and play when substituting. Dave
Dave I respectfully disagree with your opinion. I call this the chicken or the egg. I do firmly believe that the quadrant was completely machine and bored. It was placed on the table aligned and transferred. But I cannot be absolutely 100% sure unless... I make a fixture that documents this measurement. But I’m going to put my theory to the test.

Darcy Warner
07-18-2018, 10:54 PM
I wish a Robinson one would fall out of the trees I have been shaking.

David Kumm
07-18-2018, 10:56 PM
Matt, is it your belief that all quadrants were bored exactly the same and the tables too so they are generally interchangeable? That would simplify life a lot- assuming you find a quadrant. Miter gauges are bored inconsistently but quadrants might have been more precise. Let me know what you find. Won't be the first or last time I'm wrong. Dave

jack forsberg
07-18-2018, 11:01 PM
The English and Euro machines favored the double quadrant which is really the most versatile choice. US manufacturers generally just used a single quadrant. If the operator wasn't careful he could saw through the back half when not paying attention so a complete unit is rare. The quadrant and table holes and etchings were matched to each machine so some reworking needs to be done if replacing. Kind of like onboard grinders for jointers and planers. Each were set precisely and pinned into place so they are not plug and play when substituting. Dave
And here is its usefulness

https://www.instagram.com/p/BlLzZ7NBf4K/

David Kumm
07-18-2018, 11:08 PM
You will have to fight me ( or someone I hire ) for it, Darcy. Dave

Matt Mattingley
07-18-2018, 11:48 PM
Dave, maybe I’ll tee up with you for the next project. No need to fight. Play nice and things just fall out of the air. (Or get delivered to your mailbox.)

Matt Mattingley
07-19-2018, 12:02 AM
Back to the regular scheduled program ... Does anybody have a Tannewitz Slider with or without quadrant???

Matt Mattingley
07-26-2018, 12:32 AM
Back to the regular scheduled program ... Does anybody have a Tannewitz Slider with or without quadrant???
I’ll take this one step further. Is anybody looking for a PK or PP quadrant, Tannewitz quadrant or something in between?

Yes Dave you’re on the list for something in between.

I will be lending out a checking fixture for those interested with a returnable deposit.

If the mods feel this is breaking the rules, I’m fine with you closing this thread.

Those that only partake at 0WWM only are SOL. I will advance this offer to CWWM too....

Next I am developing the PK overhead guard castings...

Matt Mattingley
08-29-2018, 1:20 AM
Checking fixture is complete. I have a couple more pins to spin for the Wadkin PK and the PP. Hopefully I’ll finish off the shipping box tomorrow.
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Matt Mattingley
09-01-2018, 12:26 AM
Checking picture is complete.Those interested in a quadrant. Please send me a PM.
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peter gagliardi
09-02-2018, 8:28 AM
Very nice!
Looks like a fair amount of time and work invested in that Matt.
Some day soon I hope to get my PK back together, that we corresponded about around 5-6 years ago, so when you do get around to making quadrants I can take advantage. Hopefully I haven’t fallen off the back of the list.

Matt Mattingley
11-17-2018, 12:02 AM
The fixture is making its rounds through the USA right now. It’s going to casting next Friday. If this is on your wish list let me know.

Matt Mattingley
11-21-2018, 12:02 AM
This checking fixture will check the PK and PP. When I pick up that Tannewitz quadrant castings, I’ll be putting in an order for Wadkin.

Matt Mattingley
05-02-2019, 12:16 AM
So here’s the update. It went out for casting the middle of December and I picked up January 30th. January 31st I took on a pretty big contract that lasted till April 26th.

So... the castings have been sitting ageing for the last 2 1/2 months.

A patient five few, that I left in limbo, I am back at it. Thank you for your patience.

and here is the boring eight minute video of the roughing to establish a square reference faces.


https://youtu.be/MjR7ECoSgLE

Matt Mattingley
05-02-2019, 12:29 AM
I don’t why I can’t see the pictures i’ve posted. The software is giving me a kickback....

Patrick McCarthy
05-02-2019, 8:38 AM
Keith has a post indicating as of yesterday only contributors can see pictures. He says next it will only be subscribers . . .

BTW, impressive work. Do i need a Wadkin to make it useful? Or will it be functional on a cabinet saw??

Rod Sheridan
05-02-2019, 11:52 AM
So here’s the update. It went out forecasting middle of December and I picked up January 30th. January 31st I took on a pretty big contract that lasted till April 26th.

So... the castings have been sitting ageing for the last 2 1/2 months.

A patient five few, that I left in limbo, I am back at it. Thank you for your patience.

and here is the boring eight minute video of the roughing to establish a square reference faces.


https://youtu.be/MjR7ECoSgLE

Pretty funny CNC.

Seems to be a rare Grey Bearded Shop Monkey turning some dial thingies:D

Good work Matt, nice to see.

I had a Creeker visit this week with Jeff Bartley, he has an Oliver saw......Rod.

Jeff Bartley
05-02-2019, 12:23 PM
The Tannewitz quandrant looks identical to the Oliver!

Really cool work Matt. The set up jig you sent out is most impressive. Have you considered working on a quandrant extension of sorts? Something that could function as an auxiliary fence and positive stop? Every time I use my saw I think about it.

Your ears (and Jacks) must have been burning the other night; Rod had great things to say about both of you.

Matt Mattingley
05-02-2019, 12:55 PM
The Tannewitz quandrant looks identical to the Oliver!

Really cool work Matt. The set up jig you sent out is most impressive. Have you considered working on a quandrant extension of sorts? Something that could function as an auxiliary fence and positive stop? Every time I use my saw I think about it.

Your ears (and Jacks) must have been burning the other night; Rod had great things to say about both of you.

They are identical.

Rod is a pretty good mate. He is one of the good guys. When time allows I try to meet up with him for breakfast 6-12 times a year.

And here’s a little more.

https://youtu.be/S6PYzGdlzfs

Chris Jungbluth
04-20-2024, 9:24 AM
Is it too late to get in on this? I just bought a Tannewitz U-S and would love a quadrant. Let me know if you made extra castings. Thanks!