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Derek Cohen
07-02-2018, 11:59 AM
All the drawer fronts have been dovetailed. I spent some time preparing the drawer bottoms and drawer backs for next weekend.

Here is a very short video to illustrate the angles involved in the dovetailing ...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oh4_iCVjyhU&feature=youtu.be

Regards from Perth

Derek

James Pallas
07-02-2018, 12:38 PM
Looking very good Derek. I'm also interested in your approach to the drawer bottoms because of the progressive shrinking across the miter at the front. Plywood? Deep groove at the front?
jim

Derek Cohen
07-02-2018, 12:40 PM
Hi Jim

Deep groove for the drawer front. Then add the curves and refresh the groove.

Regards from Perth

Derek

Jim Koepke
07-02-2018, 12:51 PM
Fun to watch.

jtk

James Pallas
07-02-2018, 12:54 PM
Thanks Derek. With the drawers as narrow as yours shouldn't be a problem. Years back I made a desk with slanted front and drawers. The two top drawers were 14" wide and I was truly amazed how much difference that miter made. Been gun shy ever since.
Jim

John Kananis
07-02-2018, 2:38 PM
Derek, loving the video action - looking good.

Pete Taran
07-02-2018, 2:57 PM
Derek,

While it has been interesting following the discussion about how you tackled the angled dovetails, it just occurred to me was it even necessary?

It just hit me that instead of all that hi-jinx, you could have got some 8/4 stock for the front and dovetailed the drawer side straight on like normal, adjusting where the sides fit in the excessively thick front. Then once that is complete, just mark the front as you have already shown and bandsaw to match the curve. The added bonus would be the drawer would be square inside and it certainly would be easier to dovetail the sides. Had you considered that option?

Pete

Kees Heiden
07-02-2018, 3:20 PM
I think that would give you terribly thick drawer fronts Pete. I once saw that in a hotel room with some fake antiques. Those overly thick drawer fronts looked awfull, very amateuristic.

Derek Cohen
07-02-2018, 7:52 PM
Derek,

While it has been interesting following the discussion about how you tackled the angled dovetails, it just occurred to me was it even necessary?

It just hit me that instead of all that hi-jinx, you could have got some 8/4 stock for the front and dovetailed the drawer side straight on like normal, adjusting where the sides fit in the excessively thick front. Then once that is complete, just mark the front as you have already shown and bandsaw to match the curve. The added bonus would be the drawer would be square inside and it certainly would be easier to dovetail the sides. Had you considered that option?

Pete

Hi Pete

This came up earlier. Briefly, two more reasons why not: firstly, I do not have access to 8/4 stock, but even more so, the grain run out would be great, and the fronts would look unmatched. I would then have needed to veneer the fronts. The run out has been minimised by angling the fronts.

Regards from Perth

Derek

Brian Holcombe
07-02-2018, 8:55 PM
Derek, beautiful work!

Pete Taran
07-02-2018, 9:41 PM
Kees,

Not sure how the drawer fronts could look amateurish when they are hidden inside the case that they fit in. It's a moot point if Derek can't get 8/4. Just a thought.

Vincent Tai
07-03-2018, 1:01 AM
I think Kees is talking about a case where the front was band sawed off but the inside face was left untouched. That would look pretty thick on one corner and not very balanced looking in general, causing raised eyebrows when you use the drawers. I'm just guessing though.

Vince

Kees Heiden
07-03-2018, 1:36 AM
Yes indeed Vincent. It is always difficult to express your thoughts and understand another one’s in these kind of threads.

James Pallas
07-03-2018, 9:10 AM
Sometimes you end up with those thick drawer faces on things like bombes or block fronts. They always look odd with the drawer open with the drawer closed they look wonderful. In Derek's case he makes very legitimate arguments for his design, grain matching, material accessibility etc.
Jim

Jeff Ranck
07-03-2018, 10:43 AM
looks fantastic. This is coming along very well. Well done on a very complicated project.

Derek Cohen
07-03-2018, 12:30 PM
Here are a few more videos to illustrate some of the strategies that were used. These precede the video presented earlier.

None in Brian's class, but I hope they give you something.

Rebating the pin board ...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rft-mY_4JL0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rft-mY_4JL0)

Derek Cohen
07-03-2018, 12:31 PM
Preparing the sockets ...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WnCX08eTX0&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WnCX08eTX0&feature=youtu.be)

Derek Cohen
07-03-2018, 12:32 PM
Clearing the sockets ...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUFUGYsG-t0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUFUGYsG-t0)


Regards from Perth

Derek

p.s. Pete, take a close look at the dovetail saw! :)

Kees Heiden
07-03-2018, 1:02 PM
That made it crystal clear!

Pete Taran
07-03-2018, 2:36 PM
p.s. Pete, take a close look at the dovetail saw! :)

Whoever made that saw clearly knew what they were doing! Elegant in form and function! To quote Will Gere in Jeremiah Johnson: "I saw it right off, Pilgrim"