All I want is a table saw. Here's what that is like when you live outside the 48

[Malcolm Schweizer]

I just want a tablesaw. That's a simple thing, right? So I went to my local Home Depot, and they didn't have one. I went back every week for months and months before I said, "Okay, they aren't getting any tablesaws." I tried to order it to ship to the store. Nope, can't do that where I live. I tried to order it to ship to my house. Nope, can't do that either. I physically went to HD and asked to special order it. Sorry, we don't do that here. We only do that in every single other location, but not here.

So, I went online to Lowe's. Nope.
So, I went online to Wal-Mart Nope.
....Amazon- Nope
....CPO Outlets- Nope
KMart, Sears, Northern Tool, eBay, Menard's... Nope, Nope, Nope, Nope, Nope. Literally probably 10 other websites- Nope x 10

Mind you, now, for each of these I have to go to their site, add it to my cart, go to Paypal, log in, get back to the merchant site, click "Buy the darned thing" (okay, so maybe it doesn't say that, but it should) only to get the big red box "I'm sorry we ship everywhere except where you live. Please disregard our banner that says we ship internationally because you, my friend, are neither US or international. You live in limbo." (again, maybe I'm ad-libbing a bit, but you get the point.) Seriously, folks, I found one place that ships to countries that I had to look up on the map to see if they were even real countries, but nope- not to me.

You see, folks, I live in the US Virgin Islands. We are kind of a US territory, and kind of not. Sometimes we show up under "United States" and sometimes "Virgin Islands, US" and sometimes "US Virgin Islands." Sometimes we show as a state, sometimes a country, and sometimes there is no option at all- we just plain do not exist.

FINALLY, I went to (vendor name witheld for their protection), and OMG!!!! They have US Virgin Islands!!!! But wait- this sometimes happens and at the end they say, "Sorry, but we don't ship to your area- should you want it shipped to the moon, however, we can do that." Not this time- this time it let me check out!!!! I even got an email confirmation!!!! HOORAY!!!! ... and then it happened. (checks email) "Hi, this is _____, and we are sorry, but we don't ship to you, so we have issued you a refund. Should you ever move somewhere like the US, Canada, the Moon, etc., we would be happy to ship to you." UGH!!!

So I went to another vendor, name also witheld for their protection, and agian- checked out, ordered, got confirmation. YES!!!! They ship here!!!! Then the wait began. It showed as order processing for 6 days. Finally I contacted them. "Oh, I see the problem, you don't live in the US, Canada, Mexico, Uzbekistan, Takministan, or the 200 other countries we do ship to.... Nope, you live in a vacuum, neither state nor country, so we can't ship to you." So they were supposed to refund me.

Here's where it gets fun. I never got my $490 refund. I contacted them- "Sir, we refunded you last week." It turns out that they operate under multiple names. The first vendor that refunded me is the same company under another name. Now they show a refund, but I can't convince them that I ordered twice- once from each of their two companies, and they still owe me $490.

I would like to thank CPO outlets for at least working with me and TRYING to ship here, but in the end, they won't take a non-US credit card. At least they had an awesome customer service and tried. (This is not the one above that still owes me money- just an honorable mention.) By the way, a non-US PayPal is the same thing as a non-US credit card apparently.

I'm done. Thank you for letting me vent. If you need me, I'm going to be over here in the corner sobbing. I fly to the states in another week and I'm going to buy one and ship it to myself. I hope it finds me. If any of you amateur astronomers are looking at the moon through your telescope, and happen to see a Skilsaw worm drive tablesaw up there, it's probably mine.

[Paul McGaha]

I'm glad to see you doing better Malcolm. That sense of humor of yours is coming back on line.

Maybe buy a saw from a creeker. Probably my favorite way to buy tools. Get a good enough saw maybe it would be worth the trip (and the shipping) to ship it to yourself.

PHM

[Grant Wilkinson]

I'm in Canada. You remember us. We are not in the US, either and I get this all the time from US vendors.

An option, as Paul said, would be to have someone in Canada or the US buy it and ship it to you. I'll volunteer to at the very least see what can be done from here. It may well be easier and cheaper for someone in the US 48 to do this, since shipping from Canada to pretty much anywhere is generally much more expensive than shipping from the US, but I'm willing to check it out if you like.

[Malcolm Schweizer]

I'm in Canada. You remember us. We are not in the US, either and I get this all the time from US vendors.

An option, as Paul said, would be to have someone in Canada or the US buy it and ship it to you. I'll volunteer to at the very least see what can be done from here. It may well be easier and cheaper for someone in the US 48 to do this, since shipping from Canada to pretty much anywhere is generally much more expensive than shipping from the US, but I'm willing to check it out if you like.

Thanks. This is why I love Canadians. It’s all good- I am going to buy it myself in the states while vacationing. It’s just that I needed it this week. I am borrowing one until then.

[Peter Christensen]

Just curious if you went to BVI and were able to find one there would it be a pain in the derrière to get it back home?

[Jim Becker]

It truly bothers me when US Territories are not considered "part of the US" by any business...or even government officials who have no clue. Even that much larger US Territory to your north west gets treated that way a lot and it's shameful. I hope you are able to find a suitable saw when you are traveling on the mainland and get it back home without too much effort and expense. :(

[Ted Reischl]

You do not NEED a table saw in the Virgin Islands. The weather is beautiful. Life is good. Ever notice? A lot of guys do not do woodworking when the weather is nice? If you want to be a wood worker you need to move where it is cold and wet a good part of the year. That way you have a reason to stay inside and make love to a table saw.

[Malcolm Schweizer]

Just curious if you went to BVI and were able to find one there would it be a pain in the derrière to get it back home?

They come here to buy stuff. No, it would not be hard to get back, but it would be non-existent over there.

[Alex Zeller]

As someone who has to deal with weeks at a time of the weather never getting above zero I'm thinking that when I retire I can learn to make love to my table saw outdoors in the warmer weather. All kidding aside you didn't say what size table saw you are looking for, I'm assuming a contractor type saw. I'm surprised that you couldn't find someone who wouldn't ship USPS. You must have a zip code, right? Why are they saying your credit card is "non-US". Do you use a bank in the British VI?

[Malcolm Schweizer]

As someone who has to deal with weeks at a time of the weather never getting above zero I'm thinking that when I retire I can learn to make love to my table saw outdoors in the warmer weather. All kidding aside you didn't say what size table saw you are looking for, I'm assuming a contractor type saw. I'm surprised that you couldn't find someone who wouldn't ship USPS. You must have a zip code, right? Why are they saying your credit card is "non-US". Do you use a bank in the British VI?

No, it's a bank in the US, but my BILLING address is USVI. The larger version of this saw is beyond the USPS limit, but I was ordering the smaller one, which is within limits. Folks just don't understand where we are, and that we have the same USPS as the states. I do have a zip code, and our Post Office says United Postal Service.

[Malcolm Schweizer]

It truly bothers me when US Territories are not considered "part of the US" by any business...or even government officials who have no clue. Even that much larger US Territory to your north west gets treated that way a lot and it's shameful. I hope you are able to find a suitable saw when you are traveling on the mainland and get it back home without too much effort and expense. :(

We can be friends!!!! Actually, in regards to the shipping complications, that does have a reason. When the US bought the USVI in 1917, the USVI wanted to keep the ability to charge import tariffs, and therefore they wanted to remain under Danish Customs Rules. In what is now known as the Revised Organic Act of 1954, the USVI officially remains separate from the US for Customs purposes. That is why most carriers have to consider us international and clear customs. The USPS, however, hides under the umbrella of The Privacy of Information Act, which ONLY applies to the USPS, and says that they do not have to disclose anything about what is in the mail. The act was made to protect the USPS from allowing the government to rifle through your mail looking for dirt on you. It also has a side effect of allowing them not to have to clear customs in the USVI. So when my packages come USPS, it's just like yours- I pick it up and go. With any other carrier I have to go to excise tax, pay tax, go to customs, clear the import, then go back with the stamped paperwork and get my shipment.

We also can't vote for the president. John Oliver did an excellent piece about that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CesHr99ezWE

[John C Cox]

Malcolm,

My guess is not that you are running into "We can't find a shipper" problem... But rather that you are running into issues with Product Liability and Warranty.... Or some issue with the island's politics requiring some sort of local 3rd party distributor or some such....

So for example - if you ship the unit to the USVI yourself - they are not necessarily liable for sorting out all of that political/legal mess or jumping through whatever hurdles are required... You are a citizen/resident and you are then responsible for sorting out whatever is required to make it happen....

I mean seriously... If you can ship a table saw to Uzbekistan, Iran, or North Korea - but not USVI.. It's not because no shipper goes there.... It's some other legal/regulatory issue...

[Simon MacGowen]

"When the US bought the USVI in 1917, the USVI wanted to keep the ability to charge import tariffs, and therefore they wanted to remain under Danish Customs Rules."

That was a history lesson.

Ok 1917. What needs to be done to bring USVI up to date with the rest of the country? Or VI residents do not want to get "updated" at all because of some tax or other benefits?

Simon

[Bill Conerly]

Could you fly to San Juan, buy there, check it as luggage?

[Alex Zeller]

I think, by law, the USPS has to deliver to every postal location that is part of the US. I've mailed a letter from the top of Mt Washington in NH because they have a person paid to sit up there. UPS and FedEx can make the business decision that it's not worth their time or the expense to serve the few people who live there. The USPS may not like the expense but they can't complain. The USPS is an odd duck. They were created as a way for congress to make money. But over the years congressmen have used it to score political points back home. I have 3 offices within 5 minutes and another 5 more that are within 10 minutes of my house. I get my mail from one that's not actually in my town because they have too few people and had some added. When I go there the woman behind the counter is usually just waiting for someone to come in (think Maytag repair man). The mailman doesn't leave the PO until about 11:30 because it takes about 2 hours to deliver all the mail. By waiting he can see if something shows up.

[Martin Wasner]

You see, folks, I live in the US Virgin Islands.

You need an exporter. The folks who imported the sailboat I used to race from Australia, also had an export business shipping things to the Caribbean. I think mostly the dealt with the Cayman's, but I think they aren't containers everywhere. Literally anything. They'd send cars in containers, yard furniture, building supplies, you name it. Whatever the people wanted.

Something to look into.

[Tom Trees]

Would you not try and get a decent second hand machine with a riving knife shipped to you by someone, instead of getting a portable saw?
I'm sure theirs a three phase dual voltage saw that could be got for cheap?....might not have the riving knife though.

As to the money, my dad got scammed by shop4hardwareUK when he tried to buy a second hand garden shredder of an the well known site that we all use...
It took me months and months ...a few hundred messages had to be sent to the auction site, and the protection site allied with the auction site....
I got the run around big time ...fake shipping addresses all that ...the scammer knew I was the real deal and tried to fob us off sending us a stolen drier instead....
This got frustrating ....even after telling the well known auction site that this guy was claiming someones identity ...got and gave the details of the poor guy and they eventually realised I wasn't giving up on the matter of principal....
It took a few drinks for me to come up with the answer :rolleyes:
I had to threaten them and came close to following through with it....the answer you ask
Character assassination!!!
I researched the CEO of the site, found all I could about the person in question, and started writing a catchy tune to a musical theme similar to good ol
Gerry Rafferty's North and South.
I kept getting the ...you have only so many days to prove this that and the other.....No prob!
I had everyones correspondence in email, and photos of the stolen item getting sent back and more...I uploaded this correspondence (since taken down)
on Youtube.
It came down to you have only 5 days left to give us the additional information ...which I had given allready
I told them YOU have only three days left tell I start recording this tune in my "studio"
I was feeding them a new verse every day or so...the tune just got catchier and catchier :cool:

Long story short I got the half grand back and got my email hacked forever more
You win some, you loose some
These people can have serious influence, suppose that's what happens when your singing the bluse about someones shoes!

It was a "Desperate Dan g situation" ;)
Principal I will die for, everything else I will turn the other cheek
Just thought I'd give my 2cents

Good luck Malcolm, make sure its a good'un since you are going to the ends of the earth with this one
Tomas

[Larry Edgerton]

Malcolm, I'll buy you one you want and start shipping it to you one part at a time!:)

[David Ragan]

Malcolm, I'll buy you one you want and start shipping it to you one part at a time!:)

Exactly..............the Johnny Cash song "One Piece @ a Time"

[Malcolm Schweizer]

I can ship it by boat, but a freight forwarder will cost more than the shipping. I can fly to San Juan but it will cost me $250 round trip plus the hassle of trying to find a saw on a recovering island where saws are a hot commodity. Since I am going to the states anyway, I will pick one up.

We do have UPS, FedEx, and DHL. It's more costly since they have to clear customs and USPS does not. Also a lot of US places also won't fill out the required paperwork for customs.

Home Depot just got a shipment of Dewalt 20v table saws, but they are not 10" and don't take dado stacks. I am holding out for the skilsaw. I did try out my friend's 20V Dewalt this morning and it was a nice saw- just won't make as deep of a cut as I frequently need. Now that I used his saw, it's not as urgent because that was the cut holding up my current project, so I'm a happy man today. One more week and I head to the states and finally get to buy my saw.

[John Sincerbeaux]

Malcolm, I feel your pain brother. Living here in Texas, I can’t find anyone to deliver me year-round 85 degree days, crystal blue-green water, palm trees, year round kitesurfing, snorkling, pristine white sand beaches and boating paradise.
Very frustrating��

[Wade Lippman]

Maybe if you drove on the right side of the road you would be considered part of the US. Just saying...

[Bill Dufour]

Is it harder to buy from Europe? I would think britain would have some presence in the the Caribbean.
Bill D.

[Malcolm Schweizer]

Maybe if you drove on the right side of the road you would be considered part of the US. Just saying...

It keeps the drunken tourists from renting cars.


Is it harder to buy from Europe? I would think britain would have some presence in the the Caribbean.
Bill D.

For larger items it is harder. For smaller stuff it isn't too bad. Most electronics, however, would require a converter.

[Stuart Kent]

Malcolm, I have spent a lot of my life abroad and understand international logistics. I also sell tools through the North Carolina Furniture School. I'd be glad to look into shipping for you if you'd like. We carry Robust, Rikon, Harvey, and Nova. Rikon has great prices, some really solid table saws, and great customer service. Good luck my friend

[Chuck Saunders]

I feel for you Malcolm, Having grown up in New Mexico I have experienced similar events without near the number of possible valid reasons.
Chuck

[Jim Becker]

Would you not try and get a decent second hand machine with a riving knife shipped to you by someone, instead of getting a portable saw?
I'm sure theirs a three phase dual voltage saw that could be got for cheap?....might not have the riving knife though.luck Malcolm, make sure its a good'un since you are going to the ends of the earth with this one
Tomas
Malcolm's choices include consideration for his particular shop situation. I could be mistaken, but I don't believe he has the space for a larger saw in his beautiful island home.

[Carlos Alvarez]

I hope we make the USVI, Puerto Rico, and one other place into states. Then we will be truly indivisible.

[Frederick Skelly]

Malcolm, I'll buy you one you want and start shipping it to you one part at a time!:)

Sputter. Sputter. Splat! (Coke on the monitor again....)
Didn't Radar O'Reilley mail a Jeep back from Korea, one piece at a time? :)

[Jim Becker]

I hope we make the USVI, Puerto Rico, and one other place into states. Then we will be truly indivisible.
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[Chris Parks]

I live in Australia and buying from the US is sometimes a lottery with shopping carts not recognising the rest of the world and absolutely ludicrous shipping charges which I think are meant to stymie any sale on price alone so they don't have to arrange shipping etc. We are now totally banned form buying from Amazon.com but before that Amazon had a mysterious problem where huge amounts of stuff could not be shipped internationally. From Europe none of those problems exist and the Chinese even give free shipping on a lot of stuff.

[Carlos Alvarez]

I live in Australia and buying from the US is sometimes a lottery with shopping carts not recognising the rest of the world and absolutely ludicrous shipping charges which I think are meant to stymie any sale on price alone so they don't have to arrange shipping etc. We are now totally banned form buying from Amazon.com but before that Amazon had a mysterious problem where huge amounts of stuff could not be shipped internationally. From Europe none of those problems exist and the Chinese even give free shipping on a lot of stuff.

Even within the US, a lot of products are marked "Cannot be shipped to Catalina Island, CA." I don't know the story there. I've been sitting on my boat at Catalina looking at items I can't currently order.

[John Patric]

I live in Australia and buying from the US is sometimes a lottery with shopping carts not recognising the rest of the world and absolutely ludicrous shipping charges which I think are meant to stymie any sale on price alone so they don't have to arrange shipping etc. We are now totally banned form buying from Amazon.com but before that Amazon had a mysterious problem where huge amounts of stuff could not be shipped internationally. From Europe none of those problems exist and the Chinese even give free shipping on a lot of stuff.

If there are authorised resellers of a particular product in a specific country then Amazon cannot ship that product to that country.

[John C Cox]

There are plenty of freight forwarders who will ship items you purchase and help you navigate the maze of international regs... Of course you will have to pay for that service... And often the retailers and manufacturers don't fool with that end of the business... So you are on your own...

But it is available if you want it....

[Rod Sheridan]

This reminds me of trying to purchase a coffee mug from an American vendor a couple of years ago.

The mug was about $10.

Including shipping it came to just under $100 as they wouldn't ship via USPS.

I had it mailed to our earth station in Virginia for about 5 or 6 dollars, and picked it up when I was working there........Rod.

[Carlos Alvarez]

There's a big game with shipping markups and kickbacks. I list most things on eBay as being shippable via parcel post or priority mail. If people choose parcel, it nearly always goes via priority anyway. There's a huge kickback for sellers if you use PM, but nothing for parcel. It's often literally one cent difference after discount, and with PM, they provide the boxes. UPS is even worse (on top of having crap service). I see about a 40% difference between retail walk-in price and online shipper price. I bet the large volume shippers see way more discounting/kickback. And yes, it's a kickback, and sleazy, when you show the buyer UPS' retail price and you pocket the difference.

[Barry McFadden]

I live in Ontario, Canada and get somewhat of the same thing with about 90% of the items I want to order off of Amazon. I get the famous "this item does not ship to Canada because we are too stupid to figure it out" (possible adlib there)...drives me nuts....I recently ordered some relays from China and they can figure out how to ship them to Canada for a shipping charge of 59 cents!!!... yes ... that is correct... 59 cents and I got the order in about 10 days..... and I can't get something shipped from Buffalo which is about 10 minutes south of the border...

[Chris Parks]

If there are authorised resellers of a particular product in a specific country then Amazon cannot ship that product to that country.

That has never stopped Amazon from selling in other markets, they simply do not care. I have a feeling that it is something to do with the third party vendor not stocking in Amazon's wharehouse but using their sales front end. As for freight forwarders, yes they can be used but with the internal sales tax changes in the US they have just become marginal in value but no one really understands what is going on just yet.

[Malcolm Schweizer]

GUYS!!!!!!!!!!! (and gals) Guess what!!!! My table saw is here! Well, it's not here, because I'm in Barbados this week (that's not a gloat- it's a business trip and I'm working like mad), but it turns out that the one place I had ordered actually did ship it. It shows delivered to my PO BOX. (I'm assuming the notice was delivered, because my PO Box is only about 6"x8", but I wouldn't put it past my Post Office to cram a tablesaw in a space that small.) TOOL BARN. Toolbarn (dot) com They are awesome. They shipped my saw. I love toolbarn. Toolbarn rocks. Did I mention Toolbarn? Please go spend all your money at this awesome place. (No affiliation, but I plan to buy their stock now.)

So, I fly home Friday and my saw should be waiting for me there. I am so happy. I can't wait to try the worm drive. Since I got the track saw, I only need a small table saw for narrow cuts, dadoes, and things the track saw can't do as well. If I need a big saw, I have access to plenty of them, but I rarely need that at home.

[Malcolm Schweizer]

I love a happy ending.
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[Ken Fitzgerald]

I am so happy for you Malcolm! May it serve you well!

[Dave Zellers]

Very cool.

[Bill Dufour]

I notice a lot of ebay folks will not ship to Alaska or Hawaii. I guess they think they are foreign countries?
Bill D

[Van Huskey]

I notice a lot of ebay folks will not ship to Alaska or Hawaii. I guess they think they are foreign countries?
Bill D

If they ship UPS then the prices are a lot different and not worth the trouble to get eBay to charge them correctly. Carlos mentions USPS kickbacks (technically they are not kickbacks they are discounts) on eBay. However, if an eBay seller is charging the USPS walk-in rate they are not making any real money (if any) on the shipping since eBay charges the seller full end of listing fees on shipping just like the rest of the purchase price. In most cases the discount is almost exactly what the eBay fees are for the shipping, some a few cents more some a few cents less. This ostensibly was to prevent the practice of selling something "worth" $11 for .99 and charging $10 shipping and saving the eBay fees on the shipping fee. While it did prevent that is was basically a money grab for the 95+% that followed the spirit of the rules before.

Someone mentioned the cheap shipping from China, that is simply due to being highly government subsidized. They pay second country carriers like USPS far more than ChinaPost takes in even though they get deep discounts due to being such a large customer of USPS etc.

Glad to see Malcolm got his table saw, it must be phenomenally frustrating to live in a paradise that doesn't exist.

[Carl Beckett]

I love a happy ending.
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Nice saw! And nice shop in the background!

I lived in Puerto Rico 2 years, another US territory. It can be a PITA sometimes - and when you are feeling frustrated I recommend a retreat to the beach. Dont get in a hurry for things and adapt, else you will pull your hair out.

Your shop looks well conditioned. That is the other key. The house I lived in had no window glass (hurricane shutters then later I added screens to keep the mosquitos down). Which meant every thing rusts in a ocean mist/salt. Electronics are on a short lifecycle and essentially throw aways after 2-3 years.

All my hand tools I used infrequently I vacuum packed with a food saver (Crazy huh, but I didnt want nice planes turning into a pile of rust!). Put a little oil in with them, and sucked the air out. They then sat in storage a while when I returned to the states and once I finally did break them open not a bit of rust.

Enjoy the saw, but dont forget to carve some time out to appreciate living on an island while there!

[Malcolm Schweizer]

Nice saw! And nice shop in the background!

I lived in Puerto Rico 2 years, another US territory. It can be a PITA sometimes - and when you are feeling frustrated I recommend a retreat to the beach. Dont get in a hurry for things and adapt, else you will pull your hair out.

Your shop looks well conditioned. That is the other key. The house I lived in had no window glass (hurricane shutters then later I added screens to keep the mosquitos down). Which meant every thing rusts in a ocean mist/salt. Electronics are on a short lifecycle and essentially throw aways after 2-3 years.

All my hand tools I used infrequently I vacuum packed with a food saver (Crazy huh, but I didnt want nice planes turning into a pile of rust!). Put a little oil in with them, and sucked the air out. They then sat in storage a while when I returned to the states and once I finally did break them open not a bit of rust.

Enjoy the saw, but dont forget to carve some time out to appreciate living on an island while there!

I love Puerto Rico and Puerto Ricans. They know how to enjoy life. (Exception- I don't like them as much when they get in boats. Boats should be quiet, not Regaeton dance halls.)

My upstairs is air conditioned but we don't use it unless we have guests. The upstairs has glass windows. Downstairs is just open air with shutters. I am very careful to keep tools oiled and use camphor blocks in the toolboxes. I actually get very little rust.

The saw is going to be used to build a sailboat so I can enjoy the water. I prefer to be on the water looking at the beach as opposed to the reverse.

[Alex Zeller]

I live in Ontario, Canada and get somewhat of the same thing with about 90% of the items I want to order off of Amazon. I get the famous "this item does not ship to Canada because we are too stupid to figure it out" (possible adlib there)...drives me nuts....I recently ordered some relays from China and they can figure out how to ship them to Canada for a shipping charge of 59 cents!!!... yes ... that is correct... 59 cents and I got the order in about 10 days..... and I can't get something shipped from Buffalo which is about 10 minutes south of the border...

Actually you paid more. China is taking advantage of still being classified as a developing country. Thanks to the UN they get discounted shipping rates for small packages. Of course that comes at a cost. It's either paid by your postal service or through the money you pay to the UN. Once it's mailed at a discount and arrives in the hands of your postal service (or ours for that matter) they can't add any charges so the post office has to raise the rates on everything you mail to cover the cost. I may not be exact but I'm pretty close. Read up on United Nations Universal Postal Union and China.

[Barry McFadden]

Actually you paid more. China is taking advantage of still being classified as a developing country. Thanks to the UN they get discounted shipping rates for small packages. Of course that comes at a cost. It's either paid by your postal service or through the money you pay to the UN. Once it's mailed at a discount and arrives in the hands of your postal service (or ours for that matter) they can't add any charges so the post office has to raise the rates on everything you mail to cover the cost. I may not be exact but I'm pretty close. Read up on United Nations Universal Postal Union and China.

Postal rates are very reasonable around here so as long as I get my 59 cents shipping I'm happy and really don't care who pays what to the UN......

[Terry Wawro]

There are plenty of freight forwarders who will ship items you purchase and help you navigate the maze of international regs...

This. I have friends that live on St. Croix and Grand Cayman. This is how they order things from the states.

[Howard Rosenberg]

Contact Atlas Machinery in Toronto. Ask for Mike Edermann the pres and explain what you need. He might be able to get it to work for you. Plus, you will also benefit from a $C to USD 35% advantage too.