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BILL PENNINGTON
05-27-2018, 9:14 PM
Don't no if this is the place to post this but maybe someone can help,
I have 1-Touch Laser Photo and it's not working very well with lasersoft
software, Can i use ULS software, I have a TR-9060 Triumph laser and the support
at Triumph will not tell me anything, All they say is o there software is the best
I'm 73 years old and the laser is just for fun so i like to keep it simple so
if anyone can help please do.
Thanks BILL

Bert Kemp
05-27-2018, 9:35 PM
Bill I can't really help you here as I use Lasercut and it works so so with that but it is a Holiday weekend and people might be busy till Tuesday. Check back tomorrow and Tuesday and see what others say.:)

Bill George
05-28-2018, 9:33 AM
Bill, you just need to prepare your photo in decent software, Corel Draw is really used a lot and take into your Lasersoft as a BMP or JPG file and engrave it. I hate to promote it but Photograv 3.0 will make it much simpler for you than trying to learn Corel Draw. Someone on here might even want to legally sell their copy and transfer ownership to you.

The 1-Touch Laser program should do more or less the same thing, IF it Exports a BMP file and your Lasersoft should be able to Import that file and engrave? I Downloaded the trial and it works fine, not as good as Photograv but I do not know the cost. You did SAVE as a BMP and Import into your Lasersoft?? You can Not use the Print Function in ULS software unless you have a ULS laser.

Link to Photograv http://www.photograv.com/aspnet2/

Bill Carruthers
05-28-2018, 10:36 AM
Hi Bill
I would suggest you try Lightburn - https://lightburnsoftware.com/pages/trial-version-try-before-you-buy - it's available as a free trial for a month and only costs $80 after that -it's the best $80 I've spent on my lasers!!

BILL PENNINGTON
05-28-2018, 12:54 PM
Hi Bill
I would suggest you try Lightburn - https://lightburnsoftware.com/pages/trial-version-try-before-you-buy - it's available as a free trial for a month and only costs $80 after that -it's the best $80 I've spent on my lasers!!
Hi. BILL
I downloaded lightburn software and in the drop down box for type of laser my laser is not listed, I have a triumph laser with lasesoft what to do,
You have used the software, Maybe you can help and thanks to all how are helping me.
Thanks again BILL

Kev Williams
05-28-2018, 1:22 PM
Hi Bill,

I'm probably the only other person on the Creek using LaserSoft--

Triumph is great to work with, but the software is from a company they don't seem to work hand in hand with very well--

That said- Are you trying to export your photo directly into Lasersoft using the Corel or other plugin? There are several versions of Lasersoft, I've tried many, I've only found one version that would take a direct-export image file. All the others, including the 7.01 version I've been using for 3-1/2 years (I keep coming back to this one), all you get is a blank page--

What works: Save the image from your photo program or wherever you're working with it, then just use Lasersoft's IMPORT command to import the file.

Couple of other things: For my needs, I get the best results by sending the laser a 2 color bitmap... I start by changing the image to grayscale if not already, adjust for high contrast, as in white white's, light midtones and dark blacks-- once satisifed, I save it (always nice to have an original backup), THEN make one more adjustment, I add a bit more brightness or a little less contrast to tone down the blacks more towards gray. Now I place the final image into Corel, and change it into a 200dpi bitmap, save THAT and import it into Lasersoft...

This works best for me-- however, Lasersoft has its own bitmap creator, that actually works pretty good, I've just never had the time to play with it. If you're unfamiliar with it, there's an icon that looks like a checkerboard, that's the 'image dither' routine, the image must be selected for the icon to work. The neat thing is you choose the dot size you want to use. It DOES work well, but I've never had time to figure out the best dot size for my needs, Corel's 200dpi works well for me, just import it and run it.

--note that I use the 200dpi for fairly large images, like 6" and above, the 300dpi would likely work better for smaller images. The problem with Corel is the 100-200-300dpi settings, kinda limited. The Lasersoft dot size can be adjusted by the 1/100mm, so with some practice it may work very well--

Again, you likely can't export an image file from a plugin, just import it from where you saved it...

Hope this helps!

>> edit <<

some pics:

I found this rose, it measures about 4" both ways,
all the tweaking is done- I made a copy, which I'm
turning into a 200dpi bitmap in Corel--
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--the results--
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NOTE I saved each image as an individual file,
the left "rose.jpg", the right "rose.bmp"...

This is Lasersoft, I've imported each one separately
and placed them close together--
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This is a just a closeup-
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Here I've selected the halftone on the left,
note the orange highlighted 'image dither' icon on the bottom,
I've chosen a .16mm dot size--
386680

-and a closeup of the results--
386681
This dot pattern actually does work well, but while the Corel bmp looks all choppy, IT works well too :)
--



.

BILL PENNINGTON
05-28-2018, 2:47 PM
Hi Bill,

I'm probably the only other person on the Creek using LaserSoft--

Triumph is great to work with, but the software is from a company they don't seem to work hand in hand with very well--

That said- Are you trying to export your photo directly into Lasersoft using the Corel or other plugin? There are several versions of Lasersoft, I've tried many, I've only found one version that would take a direct-export image file. All the others, including the 7.01 version I've been using for 3-1/2 years (I keep coming back to this one), all you get is a blank page--

What works: Save the image from your photo program or wherever you're working with it, then just use Lasersoft's IMPORT command to import the file.

Couple of other things: For my needs, I get the best results by sending the laser a 2 color bitmap... I start by changing the image to grayscale if not already, adjust for high contrast, as in white white's, light midtones and dark blacks-- once satisifed, I save it (always nice to have an original backup), THEN make one more adjustment, I add a bit more brightness or a little less contrast to tone down the blacks more towards gray. Now I place the final image into Corel, and change it into a 200dpi bitmap, save THAT and import it into Lasersoft...

This works best for me-- however, Lasersoft has its own bitmap creator, that actually works pretty good, I've just never had the time to play with it. If you're unfamiliar with it, there's an icon that looks like a checkerboard, that's the 'image dither' routine, the image must be selected for the icon to work. The neat thing is you choose the dot size you want to use. It DOES work well, but I've never had time to figure out the best dot size for my needs, Corel's 200dpi works well for me, just import it and run it.

--note that I use the 200dpi for fairly large images, like 6" and above, the 300dpi would likely work better for smaller images. The problem with Corel is the 100-200-300dpi settings, kinda limited. The Lasersoft dot size can be adjusted by the 1/100mm, so with some practice it may work very well--

Again, you likely can't export an image file from a plugin, just import it from where you saved it...

Hope this helps!

>> edit <<

some pics:

I found this rose, it measures about 4" both ways,
all the tweaking is done- I made a copy, which I'm
turning into a 200dpi bitmap in Corel--
386676

--the results--
386677
NOTE I saved each image as an individual file,
the left "rose.jpg", the right "rose.bmp"...

This is Lasersoft, I've imported each one separately
and placed them close together--
386678

This is a just a closeup-
386679

Here I've selected the halftone on the left,
note the orange highlighted 'image dither' icon on the bottom,
I've chosen a .16mm dot size--
386680

-and a closeup of the results--
386681
This dot pattern actually does work well, but while the Corel bmp looks all choppy, IT works well too :)
--



. Hi Kav
In lasersoft i have v7.02 and 7.21 For programs i have photoshop CS6 photoshop elements adobe illustrator coreldraw inkscape 1 touch and gimp you wood think i could work with one of those, But i'm just learning so i will try doing what you did and see what happens thanks for all your help BILL

Kev Williams
05-28-2018, 6:29 PM
I like version 7.02, I like the interface better than 7.01, like the laser position display which isn't in 7.01, among other things. BUT, I have my 1390's backlash settings in 7.01 so finely tuned that this machine, as big as it is, engraves every bit as nicely as my 2 Synrad lasers. But entering the same settings in 7.02, or 7.11, 7.16 or 7.21 gives me totally different results... anyway... ;)

--sounds like you're NOT using Corel? For text and simple graphics it's almost necessary! Text entry in Lasersoft is ridiculous, as you have to enter text into a text box then use the program to position it-- bleah... I think most Chinese programs work this way too, EZcad for the fiber does. >> oops, I see you DO use Coreldraw <<

However, you DO have AI so that should help as Lasersoft has an AI plugin. Aside from that I know zilch about AI...

Bill Carruthers
05-28-2018, 10:33 PM
Hi. BILL
I downloaded lightburn software and in the drop down box for type of laser my laser is not listed, I have a triumph laser with lasesoft what to do,
You have used the software, Maybe you can help and thanks to all how are helping me.
Thanks again BILL
Lightburn works with the controller of the laser not the name of the manufacturer - The most common controller type coming out of China now is the Ruida brand - often the 6442 model. I had a quick look at the Triumph site and couldn't see where they mention the type of controller used - Maybe you can ask them and then see whether Lightburn supports whatever controller type it is??
Cheers
BillC

John Noell
05-28-2018, 10:55 PM
Since it is a free download, it is worth trying to see if it properly connects to your machine when you pick Ruida for the controller.

Bill George
05-29-2018, 8:27 AM
What I am trying to understand is where he having problems? Is the picture converting ok in the picture prep program he is using and the preview looks good or not? Or is he having issues getting Lasersoft to engrave? If its the prep for the engraving that's one thing, If he can not Import and get it to Engrave its another. I downloaded the ULS software and it works fine, Saved as a BMP and Imported into my Chinese machine software and it engraved fine. So Which is it?

BILL PENNINGTON
05-29-2018, 12:58 PM
Hi. BILL
I'm new at this so please bear with me, When i use 1 touch everything looks good, But when i import it to lasersoft that's when thing go bad, The picture in laser lasersoft is all choppy and distorted, Working eith photoshop i'm starting to get it to work, I forgot to tell you that i'm working with acrylic for illusion light don't like to wast acrylic.
I would like to get the 1- touch to work just to make it simple.
Thanks BILL

Bill George
05-29-2018, 4:27 PM
Hi. BILL
I'm new at this so please bear with me, When i use 1 touch everything looks good, But when i import it to lasersoft that's when thing go bad, The picture in laser lasersoft is all choppy and distorted, Working eith photoshop i'm starting to get it to work, I forgot to tell you that i'm working with acrylic for illusion light don't like to wast acrylic.
I would like to get the 1- touch to work just to make it simple.
Thanks BILL

Tell me how step by step your Exporting and Importing? I have used several Chinese controller programs and that has never been an issue, Yet. I used 1-Touch the demo download without any issues.

Kev Williams
05-29-2018, 7:56 PM
This may sound like a dumb question, but I haven't seen anywhere in your post that states you've engraved anything yet-- have you? If not, don't be put off by what you see on the screen-- if you HAVE and the results are less than stellar, can you upload some pics?

BILL PENNINGTON
05-29-2018, 9:10 PM
I will up load some picture tomorrow, I'm running out of time today and to answer your question - Yes i have engraved a couple of photo, But with a different program,
This is where thing get funny, I used window 7 I had to go to window 10 do to a small fire, Charging a lipo battery, I can cut anything from dime size parts to large
RC model plane parts, Just can't engrave any more, I did get some what of a picture using photoshop CS6 Maybe i will keep working with that till i get it right That is with a
little help from you guys
Thanks for the help BILL

Bill George
05-31-2018, 4:16 PM
Bill how are you doing on the Project?

BILL PENNINGTON
05-31-2018, 4:39 PM
Hi. BILL
I have been working with 1 touch and it's starting to work for me, I wasn't able to work on anything had some thing to take care of, When you use 1 touch do you run it through and just down load it from your computer to your laser.
Thanks BILL

Bill George
05-31-2018, 5:35 PM
Hi. BILL
I have been working with 1 touch and it's starting to work for me, I wasn't able to work on anything had some thing to take care of, When you use 1 touch do you run it through and just down load it from your computer to your laser.
Thanks BILL

Just leave it in the 1 Touch program until you get it adjusted to the way you like it. Practice on a few until you get the hang of how the program works. Then Save as BMP and Import into your laser program. Frankly I like Photograv better, I do not know what they are charging for 1 Touch? Yes I always test my engraving file on scrap before I spend money on the real stuff. If your engraving on clear plastic you will need to Invert the image and I do not see how that is done in 1 Touch??

Not Impressed, Photograv or learning to use what you already have has got to be better. http://www.photograv.com/aspnet2/Default.aspx

BILL PENNINGTON
06-01-2018, 11:13 AM
Today i will work on some photo on wood and plastic then i will post them, As for the price of 1 touch i thank it was $250. when i got it and i don't invert until i go to lasersoft.
Most of the illusion light i do are in vector so i just run them through lasersoft and it works fine. But photo of people and animals this is a little more work, But we will see
today,
Thanks BILL

Kev Williams
06-01-2018, 11:55 AM
I'm surprised that any photo program wouldn't have an invert/negative setting--? But if so, just copy and paste the image into Corel (or photoshop or paint or), invert it, then copy/paste it back in to 1 touch...

Now I don't do all that much photo engraving, but I have figured out that for ME to get decent results using negative images, I MUST adjust brightness/contrast levels WHILE the image is negative. If adjusting in normal THEN inverting, the inverted image always ends up too dark. Adjusting the negative for proper contrast is just easier- for me :)

Bill George
06-01-2018, 5:39 PM
Well the price is right, and it did work but the inverting to negative is what turned me off. But Bill said it works in Lasersoft so now its just a matter of practicing and getting it right. So my Chinese LaserCad program works the same way, the preview image looks not very good even with a dither dot size of .01 mm and then inverted. So you would really need to do a trial run to see the results.

BILL PENNINGTON
06-02-2018, 10:35 AM
I did 2 wood ones and a plastic one the wood is cheap so not vary good 10 cents at yard sale, The first one is 1 touch and the other one is photoshop cs6, Illusion light is right through lasersoft, If you can tell me any thing to improve on the wood ones that would be great.
Thanks BILL386993386994386995

Bill George
06-02-2018, 9:33 PM
At least your making progress. You can experment with more power, less power or putting the lens a little out of focus one way or the other and see if you like the results.

Kev Williams
06-02-2018, 11:32 PM
best advice on the wood is get better wood :) Alder and cherry engrave nicely, bamboo is good but can vary-- don't bother wasting money on oak..

BILL PENNINGTON
06-09-2018, 11:54 AM
Everything is starting to work ok again, Just needed time to play with the programs and the laser, Thanks for all your help.
BILL

BILL PENNINGTON
06-10-2018, 2:16 PM
Hi Bill
I take to the people at lightburn and as of right now the system will not work with PH laser controller system, He told me that there working on that system we will see.
Talk to you later BILL

BILL PENNINGTON
07-30-2018, 7:20 PM
Hi All
I'm Back, I hope everyone is doing OK, Everything on the laser is working fine, But i was looking at some things and cleaning the bottom of the laser and found that my table is 4.5 mm out at the top left corner as in down, I work from the middle of the table most of the time, But if i was to do a big piece do you think that would affect anything, As in color change of the burn, my self I think that would make the focal point change witch would cause some problems, Before i tear in to it i would like your throughs,
Thanks for any help again.
Thanks again BILL

Bert Kemp
07-30-2018, 11:55 PM
IMO yes it will make a difference, thats a little over an 8th inch. you'll be out of focus. I'm sure it won't be a big problem but its not hard to level .

BILL PENNINGTON
07-31-2018, 10:47 AM
That's what i through, I like everything to be right so i will make all of the adjustment today, Thanks and have a good day.
BILL